The mysterious technology of Stanley Meyer

[adam_mizer]

Some more time has passed on this subject of Tutanka's PDF.
Has anyone received and reviewed it?
Can you please state a review.

Also question's came to mind.
About the corona discharge of a plate designed for ozone.
Is this corona discharge just a sample of violet colored photon energy as the oxy/nitro air passes over the plate changing its state to more atomic structure?
If an explosive gas came directly across the corona field would it ignite?
When the air gas changes state are there now different polarity charges on the atomized and restructured oxygen and nitrogen?
Has oxygen/ozone now formed a positive charge?
What is the charge of atomized nitrogen?

[tutanka]

too easy..

Too easy to write how it works, you have to figure it out yourself.
Attached a patent meyer .. here all is written inside for understand how the final meyer injector work and which components are required to obtain proper operation. Forget all about air ionization.. normal air can work also inside your injector burner.. good treasure hunt.

[tutanka]

too difficult to understand??

Too many difficult to understand? Another little help for you..

[lechancel]

oil ,
so we have here exaust gazes ...hydrogen... oil spray... air
is it for a slower hydrogen burn rate ?

[tutanka]

oil ,
so we have here exaust gazes ...hydrogen... oil spray... air
is it for a slower hydrogen burn rate ?

Yes.. Oil..

Slower burn rate??

Meyer use exaust gas because inside is present also CO2 because can be transformed in new fuel


The cracking temperature (and pressure) is the catalyst for obtain the chemical reaction..

In this patent Meyer use hydrogen (HHO), exaust gas, air and oil

In water fuel injection patent Meyer use water steam, exaust gas, air and oil (also if not mentioned), the only difference is that the reaction appear inside the injector like an pantone geet.

Stanley Meyer use oil not for lubrification but for create an mini-refinery

The car don't run to water 100% but at 80% , hydrocarbon (oil or other) in lower amount is every used.

[wolf234]

must use hydrogen or HHO ?

[tutanka]

must use hydrogen or HHO ?

Meyer use HHO.. Is simple to make and to admin..

[wolf234]

have hho generator in the car have give exhaust in sucking? I originally wanted to work on autothermi

[tutanka]

have hho generator in the car have give exhaust in sucking? I originally wanted to work on autothermi

Autothermia is another method.. more complicated because you need an continue air ionization in the time.. that is possible just with an direct reaction with an specific catalyst. Meyer method in fact is very simple to make.. here pratical example Tests d'une tondeuse équipée du Processeur Multi-Carburants (PMC) - (Pantone, Pentone)

[adam_mizer]

Too many difficult to understand? Another little help for you..

This is an early Meyer patent.
I saw the oil injection into chamber 20.
Was this abandoned in later patents or was it still used.?

Also he makes note of oil injection as a practical matter for engines that were not oil-lubricated.
Reminds me of those small engines you mix the gas with oil.

[tutanka]

This is an early Meyer patent.
I saw the oil injection into chamber 20.
Was this abandoned in later patents or was it still used.?

Also he makes note of oil injection as a practical matter for engines that were not oil-lubricated.
Reminds me of those small engines you mix the gas with oil.

Just an example for understand..

BMW was using cryogenic technology for power an engine completely to hydrogen, this technology is able to stock enormous hydrogen quantities.

You need more Nm3 of hydrogen for have the same calorific value of hydrocarbons.

The oil is mixed with water and steam resonator is used for mix these togheter.

The injector work similarry to pantone geet and split water and oil inside with plasma this with the high voltage present inside.

Oil help a lot for obtain the water cracking reaction inside the injector.

This is an mini-refinery and that make the lower amount of hydrocarbons and not high quantities of hydrogen needed for run properly an engine.

BMW actually has abandoned the hydrogen way..

[adam_mizer]

Some more time has passed on this subject of Tutanka's PDF.
Has anyone received and reviewed it?
Can you please state a review.

Also question's came to mind.
About the corona discharge of a plate designed for ozone.
Is this corona discharge just a sample of violet colored photon energy as the oxy/nitro air passes over the plate changing its state to more atomic structure?
If an explosive gas came directly across the corona field would it ignite?
When the air gas changes state are there now different polarity charges on the atomized and restructured oxygen and nitrogen?
Has oxygen/ozone now formed a positive charge?
What is the charge of atomized nitrogen?

Here is an answer to my own question, I'm basing this on negative electrode corona:
Corona discharge is a process by which a current flows from an electrode with a high potential into a neutral fluid, usually air, by ionizing that fluid so as to create a region of plasma around the electrode. The ions generated eventually pass charge to nearby areas of lower potential, or recombine to form neutral gas molecules.

The glow of the corona is caused by electrons recombining with positive ions to form neutral atoms. When the electron falls back to its original energy level, it releases a photon of light. The photons serve to ionize other atoms, maintaining the creation of electron avalanches.

The electron has a much higher charge/mass ratio and so is accelerated to a higher velocity than the positive ion. It gains enough energy from the field that when it strikes another atom it ionizes it, knocking out another electron, and creating another positive ion. These electrons are accelerated and collide with other atoms, creating further electron/positive-ion pairs, and these electrons collide with more atoms, in a chain reaction process called an electron avalanche. Both positive and negative coronas rely on electron avalanches. In a positive corona all the electrons are attracted inward toward the nearby positive electrode and the ions are repelled outwards. In a negative corona the ions are attracted inward and the electrons are repelled outwards.

[tutanka]

Here is an answer to my own question, I'm basing this on negative electrode corona:
Corona discharge is a process by which a current flows from an electrode with a high potential into a neutral fluid, usually air, by ionizing that fluid so as to create a region of plasma around the electrode. The ions generated eventually pass charge to nearby areas of lower potential, or recombine to form neutral gas molecules.

The glow of the corona is caused by electrons recombining with positive ions to form neutral atoms. When the electron falls back to its original energy level, it releases a photon of light. The photons serve to ionize other atoms, maintaining the creation of electron avalanches.

The electron has a much higher charge/mass ratio and so is accelerated to a higher velocity than the positive ion. It gains enough energy from the field that when it strikes another atom it ionizes it, knocking out another electron, and creating another positive ion. These electrons are accelerated and collide with other atoms, creating further electron/positive-ion pairs, and these electrons collide with more atoms, in a chain reaction process called an electron avalanche. Both positive and negative coronas rely on electron avalanches. In a positive corona all the electrons are attracted inward toward the nearby positive electrode and the ions are repelled outwards. In a negative corona the ions are attracted inward and the electrons are repelled outwards.

Yes.. this is called normally electron beam and I agree with you photons or electrini crack molecules and .. you need also temperature.

But for run an engine properly using water you need also an little amount of carbon .. all togheter..

thanks for read me

[wolf234]

We can use hot copper and dielectric discharge

[tutanka]

We can use hot copper and dielectric discharge

You don't calculate the input energy for hot copper.
If you read better my words you understand that you don't need..