New Stan Meyer Replication - off topic

[Aaron]

Hahahahaha! Go do it yourself, then come and criticize. Until then, science is always debatable. Some people's kids.

The proof is already done.

And, again, it isn't debatable. It isn't the science I'm talking about, it is what Meyer did and what Meyer spelled out. What I just told you comes straight from Stan Meyer. If you doubt this, you have not read everything that Meyer made available.

If you're creating water as the combustion by product, then you are not doing what Meyer did. If you create water as the primary by product, you will never get the thermal energy from the water gas.

I'm just tired of people getting abused in this forum by people claiming they figured out Meyer and are focusing on some magical method of making the WFC like his or using a VIC or similar circuit to drive it. That is all irrelevant. You can do what Meyer did using ANY common HHO dry cell from Ebay.

It was NEVER about any significant gas production. It was about preventing the formation of the water molecule during combustion. If you prevent that from happening, you then get the thermal energy instead of a quick "Brown's Gas" pop, which is all you're going to get.

[Aaron]

slower flame rate?

just by mixing ambient air with brute force electrolysis. that is not a quick brown's gas pop but a way slowing down of the flame rate

Congratulations - that's part of it. The air is crowding out the "hho" and when it burns, it is unable to reform into water - or at least at a lower level.

Can you show your slower flame rate?

And you said the brute force electrolysis - that's right. Nobody needs to do anything remotely close to what Meyer was doing with his cell because that isn't where the "magic" is.

Besides that ambient air mixing with the water fuel, Meyer was also recycling exhaust by blending that with the hho to dilute it as well.

He also recycled the burned gas on the burner in the same way - way
before he even moved towards automobile applications.

[tachyon]

stop focusing on magic circuits... my word of advice..

[tutanka]

0.04 hz to 100 kHz with PLL or 0.04 to 500 kHz without PLL.

But you don't are tired of typing the same things over Meyer? Do you want to understand the technology of Meyer? Come to the event to be held in Florence 8 to 10 April 2013

[tutanka]

What event?

We present AIR-AS-FUEL technology in Florence (ITALY) from 8-9-10 April 2013.

[jonabel1971]

Aaron - don't bully.

Aaron, it seems it is you that is attempting to bully. I have done nothing other than my own replication, and others can decide for themselves whether they think my videos and pictures show resonance. You appear biased - right out of the starting gate. I have ran in to this personality before. It's called a BIG EGO. Please don't split hairs with me if you are going to ask questions, and don't compare me with others who have read Stan's work. If you don't think I did it, then show me your circuit and videos, and screenshots. Since you are listed on Naudin's site, I would assume you followed similar circuitry. Why are you bothering me?

The proof is already done.

And, again, it isn't debatable. It isn't the science I'm talking about, it is what Meyer did and what Meyer spelled out. What I just told you comes straight from Stan Meyer. If you doubt this, you have not read everything that Meyer made available.

If you're creating water as the combustion by product, then you are not doing what Meyer did. If you create water as the primary by product, you will never get the thermal energy from the water gas.

I'm just tired of people getting abused in this forum by people claiming they figured out Meyer and are focusing on some magical method of making the WFC like his or using a VIC or similar circuit to drive it. That is all irrelevant. You can do what Meyer did using ANY common HHO dry cell from Ebay.

It was NEVER about any significant gas production. It was about preventing the formation of the water molecule during combustion. If you prevent that from happening, you then get the thermal energy instead of a quick "Brown's Gas" pop, which is all you're going to get.

[jonabel1971]

Abuse from a moderator.

Wow, you and Aaron are really getting into the technology. That's great.

However, since you are going to criticize for not attempting every single patent of Stan's, then don't try to get overly technical with me - I don't really have the time right now. As you know, I attempted one patent - one replication. That's it. I got resonance - that's it. I gave it away to everybody. That's it. If you don't like it, I don't care. You are not Stan Meyer - you have no more proof than I do.

If you want to play with Stan's steam resonator, and gas gun, then go for it. Until then, question someone else to the point of obscurity - don't bother me.

Thanks for the work on resonance circuit and to the others that have contributed toward the Myers resonance circuit.

Stan Myers project allows people to have energy for car and home without the corporate monopoly and government tax which has been a method to dominate and rule masses and has been less than friendly.

I have to agree with Aaron that the direction is to design a model that
safely demonstrates the increase in btu when further ionization is applied at a gaseous state.
The project would go toward instrumentation to indicate when the population of ionized hydrogen results,
for example a 5 times increase in BTU is determined by an indicator that holds open a normally closed valve.
In this way one of the safety factors so the devise cannot exceed a safe limit for example.

Consider the potato famine and imagine losing family to starvation, I see the energy predicament in the same way.
"Famine Graveyard" Dungarvan Off The Beaten Path Tip by clunker

[jonabel1971]

Challenge

Challenge anyone? What in the hell is wrong with your attitude? Go do it yourself, you cheap bastard. Now you know why people stay off your discussion group. I hit resonance and you attacked me. Why don't you come on over to my house for a little demonstration if you don't fear other people's research? Oh btw, you wasted 5 minutes that I won't get back.

YOU FOCUSED YOUR ATTENTION ON WFC ..

YOU CAN USE ANY HHO DRY CELL AND YOU OBTAIN THE SAME RESULT BECAUSE STAN MEYER USE AN LOWER AMOUNT OF GAS.

THE THERMAL ENERGY ISN'T RELEASED FROM HHO GAS BUT FROM THE PROCESSED AIR MIXED WITH THE GAS!!

I'M SURE THAT STAN MEYER DON'T HAVE FULLY UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS BUT CASUALLY OR MAYBE READING OTHER PATENTS.

I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO PROVE THAT I AM WRONG WITH REAL AND WORKING EXPERIMENTS OR DEVICES.

THE AIR PROPERLY PROCESSED IS THE REAL FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jonabel1971]

Trollbot

Your word of advice is noted. Now go away, Trollbot.

stop focusing on magic circuits... my word of advice..

[tachyon]

that's why I don't like these kind of forums.. you my friend are the definition of a crackpot.. I don't care if you hit resonance with your magic vibes... stop insulting people, even if I was going to share something now I won't. I know there are people like you trying to take advantage of anything it's very bad for you though that you don't care for the world around you.. open your mind you're not supposed to make magic circuits because there aren't any, everything follows the laws of physics and the sooner you start to realize that there better it is for all of us.

[jonabel1971]

Ambient Air

It's funny how you guys make a big deal about adding ambient air. I am sure it is important for some of his technology, but I watched all of Stan's videos, and one in particular (probably Colorado, he was wearing a tux), where he talked about getting away from using ambient air and using a closed system with only hydrogen, oxygen, and water. Please realize that he did have 50 patents.

The proof is already done.

And, again, it isn't debatable. It isn't the science I'm talking about, it is what Meyer did and what Meyer spelled out. What I just told you comes straight from Stan Meyer. If you doubt this, you have not read everything that Meyer made available.

If you're creating water as the combustion by product, then you are not doing what Meyer did. If you create water as the primary by product, you will never get the thermal energy from the water gas.

I'm just tired of people getting abused in this forum by people claiming they figured out Meyer and are focusing on some magical method of making the WFC like his or using a VIC or similar circuit to drive it. That is all irrelevant. You can do what Meyer did using ANY common HHO dry cell from Ebay.

It was NEVER about any significant gas production. It was about preventing the formation of the water molecule during combustion. If you prevent that from happening, you then get the thermal energy instead of a quick "Brown's Gas" pop, which is all you're going to get.

[tachyon]

not worth to bother.. go over @ tutanka's meeting I'm sure you'll learn something..

@others I'm sure meyer didn't quite like the lorentz's law...

[jonabel1971]

Trollbot.

It's funny how you don't know me, or the reasons I am doing this. So, if I am so stupid, then show me your research, right? Oh yeah...that's what I thought....YOU DON"T HAVE ANY RESEARCH. Take it someplace else.

Just another stupid man that want start an war from the home

YOU MUST GROW MAN!!

[tachyon]

**** it ..............................

[jonabel1971]

Misinformation

The troll "tachyon" is spreading time-wasting misinformation. Please ignore the troll.

you do realize that mechanical waves have a certain frequency and that you can't do **** to atoms with them? magnify energy???? you can't magnify energy.. you can spend more energy in less amount of time only..or produce more energy.

to tell you the truth you don't need hydrogen at all you can do the same with hydrocarbons from lubrication oil..