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  • #31
    Tutanka, you are using terminology that is inapplicable to plasma technology.
    Please answer previous three questions and the following two.

    4. Are you eliminating water vapor from gasses produced by your "dry-cell"?

    The effect of vapors in the “hho”-torch “plume” is shown in the following segment.
    HHO torch and coolant real flame temperature Temperatura REAL usable de llama - YouTube
    Summary:
    Diesel-1650 deg F
    Acetone-2200 deg F
    Gasoline-1650 deg F
    Kerosene-1300 deg F
    Water 1800 def F

    5. What maximum temperature "hho"-torch "plume" can generate?

    Thanks
    Al

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    • #32
      Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
      Tutanka, you are using terminology that is inapplicable to plasma technology.
      Please answer previous three questions and the following two.

      4. Are you eliminating water vapor from gasses produced by your "dry-cell"?

      The effect of vapors in the “hho”-torch “plume” is shown in the following segment.
      HHO torch and coolant real flame temperature Temperatura REAL usable de llama - YouTube
      Summary:
      Diesel-1650 deg F
      Acetone-2200 deg F
      Gasoline-1650 deg F
      Kerosene-1300 deg F
      Water 1800 def F

      5. What maximum temperature "hho"-torch "plume" can generate?

      Thanks
      Al
      I repeat again. I don't use HHO for plasma air creation.
      With air as fuel technology I can heat an big cylinder of stainless steel with an thickness of 10mm to 800° C in minutes..

      REATTORE 800°C - YouTube
      Last edited by tutanka; 04-02-2013, 07:34 PM.

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      • #33
        Do you use air as the source of free electrons for your plasma air reaction? When you mention a few grams of pellet are you refering to your catalyst or your source of electrons?

        Any chance we can get a live webcast of the show in Florence for those that cant make it there?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tutanka
          but you are using wrong and OLD THEORY on combustion because AIR isn't an simple oxidizer.
          I posted my results and photo OF AIR AS FUEL TECH BUT YOU SEE THEM??
          THE PHOTO POSTED IS PLASMA AIR!!
          NO HHO OR OTHER GAS FIRST ARE MIXED TOGHETER .. JUST PLASMA AIR (WITHOUT CAPACITOR DISCHARGE) THAT INTERACT WITH FREE ELECTRONS OF LOWER AMOUNT OF SYNGAS !!!
          IT'S AN DOUBLE REACTION !!
          Originally posted by tutanka View Post
          Many people do not realize that when you run a car or truck on gasoline of diesel fuel, you are actually running it on hydrogen. ” Stan Meyers 1992
          Isn't right and is an old theory!!
          The combustion inside an engine start thanks to the reaction of bonding electrons with plasma oxygen.. more electrons more thermal energy .. more plasma oxygen more power.. diesel fuel has more carbon and hydrogen atoms and more bonding electrons than the gasoline and thanks to compression an diesel engine has more plasma oxygen. The main problem of engines is that nitrogen isn't transformed into plasma and without that condition can't react!!
          The plasma air is the real fuel!!
          Tutanka,
          what is the maximum temperature
          that your PLASMA AIR can generate?
          Thanks
          Al

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pmazz850 View Post
            Do you use air as the source of free electrons for your plasma air reaction? When you mention a few grams of pellet are you refering to your catalyst or your source of electrons?

            Any chance we can get a live webcast of the show in Florence for those that cant make it there?
            Low amount of pellet is used as source of electrons

            do not has webcast live .. the conference is at closed doors.. need invitation
            Last edited by tutanka; 04-03-2013, 06:18 AM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
              Tutanka,
              what is the maximum temperature
              that your PLASMA AIR can generate?
              Thanks
              Al

              No more than 2000°C I don't have to melt metals. . I admin the plasma air for have an controlled temperature creating an corona plasma effect. The temperature is used for obtain some process including purify the syngas..
              Last edited by tutanka; 04-03-2013, 06:14 AM.

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              • #37
                3. When the piston reaches the top of its stroke, the spark plug emits a spark to ignite the gasoline. The gasoline charge in the cylinder explodes, driving the piston down. (Part 3 of the figure)
                HowStuffWorks "Internal Combustion"

                Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                No more than 2000°C I don't have to melt metals. .
                I admin the plasma air for have an controlled temperature creating an corona plasma effect. The temperature is used for obtain some process including purify the syngas..
                Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                Fuel in fact are electrons to high speed.
                You need plasma air and energized electrons.. water and plasma air have enough electrons for start combustion reaction.
                Stanley Meyer with wfc injector had a good intuition but understand just in part the right reaction, him think that is hydrogen responsible of thermal explosive energy.
                Is Wrong!!
                The thermal explosive energy born from interaction of plasma air (atoms), the electrons released from water during the dissociation and the heat produced from H2/O2.
                All togheter at the same time!!
                Tutanka, is the explosive energy of the syngas driving the piston down?
                Thanks
                Al

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by tutanka View Post

                  We are talking of air-as-fuel not of standad combustion!!
                  Like I said, Tutanka, I'll light a match in a nitrogen and plasma air-filled room if you do the same in one filled with only oxygen and hydrogen gas to see who ends up looking like this:


                  Chemical reactions can produce heat without fire but I think the term for the active ingredient is a 'reagent', not 'fuel':
                  Reagent: [n.] A substance or mixture for use in chemical analysis or other reactions.
                  Fuel: [n.] Material such as coal, gas, or oil that is burned to produce heat or power.
                  Combust: [v.] Consume by fire

                  As with Aaron, Tutanka makes contradictory statements:
                  If you sent pure oxygen inside your engine all oxygen is transformed in plasma and you obtain an incredible powerful engine BUT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL FUEL .. ADDITIONAL FREE ELECTRONS.. MORE OXYGEN MORE ELECTRONS..


                  And just what would that addtional fuel be if it isn't 'plasma air', 'the real fuel'?

                  My advice: If you want to be taken seriously and to SELL MORE KIT BOARDS, at least provide links to the science behind your theory. In English it makes absolutely no sense which led me to my humourous response. Even if it's only in Italian, I'm sure Google Translate could give us a much better idea of what it is you're trying to say because obviously no one else is convinced either.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    3. When the piston reaches the top of its stroke, the spark plug emits a spark to ignite the gasoline. The gasoline charge in the cylinder explodes, driving the piston down. (Part 3 of the figure)
                    HowStuffWorks "Internal Combustion"





                    Tutanka, is the explosive energy of the syngas driving the piston down?
                    Thanks
                    Al
                    Syngas is used just inside the stove for releases electrons.. no explosion

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ein~+ein View Post
                      Like I said, Tutanka, I'll light a match in a nitrogen and plasma air-filled room if you do the same in one filled with only oxygen and hydrogen gas to see who ends up looking like this:


                      Chemical reactions can produce heat without fire but I think the term for the active ingredient is a 'reagent', not 'fuel':
                      Reagent: [n.] A substance or mixture for use in chemical analysis or other reactions.
                      Fuel: [n.] Material such as coal, gas, or oil that is burned to produce heat or power.
                      Combust: [v.] Consume by fire

                      As with Aaron, Tutanka makes contradictory statements:
                      If you sent pure oxygen inside your engine all oxygen is transformed in plasma and you obtain an incredible powerful engine BUT YOU NEED ADDITIONAL FUEL .. ADDITIONAL FREE ELECTRONS.. MORE OXYGEN MORE ELECTRONS..


                      And just what would that addtional fuel be if it isn't 'plasma air', 'the real fuel'?

                      My advice: If you want to be taken seriously and to SELL MORE KIT BOARDS, at least provide links to the science behind your theory. In English it makes absolutely no sense which led me to my humourous response. Even if it's only in Italian, I'm sure Google Translate could give us a much better idea of what it is you're trying to say because obviously no one else is convinced either.


                      Come here in Florence 8-9-10 of this month and see with your eyes the conference with the working prototype..
                      Probably you don't have or want understand.. Here We are talking of combustion revolution!!
                      Board is another thing.. is just for produce hho gas and save electrical power..

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                        Syngas is used just inside the stove for releases electrons.. no explosion
                        Originally posted by tutanka View Post

                        Probably you don't have or want understand.. Here We are talking of combustion revolution!!
                        Board is another thing.. is just for produce hho gas and save electrical power..
                        Tutanka,
                        if there is no explosion and
                        you use Syngas to release electrons
                        why do say there is a “combustion revolution”?

                        See
                        a Plasma Forcefield. It is made of a stream of plasma. This is the video of a piece of solder melting at about 621.43 degrees Fahrenheit (about 327.46 degrees C). The actual plasma is over 10000 degrees. it looks a lot like the forcefield's on star wars.
                        Plasma Forcefield melting metal - YouTube

                        Thanks
                        Al

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                          Tutanka,
                          if there is no explosion and
                          you use Syngas to release electrons
                          why do say there is a “combustion revolution”?

                          See
                          a Plasma Forcefield. It is made of a stream of plasma. This is the video of a piece of solder melting at about 621.43 degrees Fahrenheit (about 327.46 degrees C). The actual plasma is over 10000 degrees. it looks a lot like the forcefield's on star wars.
                          Plasma Forcefield melting metal - YouTube

                          Thanks
                          Al
                          I burn plasma air!!! I don't use high voltage inside process..

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                            Tutanka,
                            if there is no explosion and
                            you use Syngas to release electrons
                            why do say there is a “combustion revolution”?

                            See
                            a Plasma Forcefield. It is made of a stream of plasma. This is the video of a piece of solder melting at about 621.43 degrees Fahrenheit (about 327.46 degrees C). The actual plasma is over 10000 degrees. it looks a lot like the forcefield's on star wars.
                            Plasma Forcefield melting metal - YouTube

                            Thanks
                            Al
                            attention you are creating a microwave source

                            ISTF2008: Cutting the Cord - Microwave Generators
                            Chain Home and the cavity magnetron
                            Last edited by wings; 04-05-2013, 05:20 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by wings View Post
                              attention you are creating a microwave source
                              You think Tutanka's trying to sell microwave circuitry for >10 times the price?

                              No, that can't be it. Microwave radiation travels through the vacuum of space and doesn't 'burn' or even heat up air as we all know. As Tutanka himself admits, his 'fuel' won't burn without 'additional' fuel which is probably petroleum-derived: propane or natural gas which his video even shows.
                              -----------------
                              @Tutanka: What's your opinion of fellow Italian Andrea Rossi and his e-cat?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ein~+ein View Post
                                You think Tutanka's trying to sell microwave circuitry for >10 times the price?

                                No, that can't be it. Microwave radiation travels through the vacuum of space and doesn't 'burn' or even heat up air as we all know. As Tutanka himself admits, his 'fuel' won't burn without 'additional' fuel which is probably petroleum-derived: propane or natural gas which his video even shows.
                                -----------------
                                @Tutanka: What's your opinion of fellow Italian Andrea Rossi and his e-cat?
                                In my stove I use pellet wood creating syngas.. that interact with plasma air producing plasma flames. I don't know rossi device ..

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