Where are the ACTIVE HHO experimenters?

[Fel]

Hi!
it's been several times I post here and I'm under the impression that not much people here are actually building something. I'd like to find people that are actually experimenting with hydrogen on demand technology, HHO, and especially the advanced experimenters, focused on practical applications, not just theories and benchtop prototypes.

I've build a full stainless steel cell that contains about 10l of water, with a rupture disk for safety. I havn't tested it yet, because I'm still looking for the right driver circuit to run it.

I've considered using the high voltage route, but I fear my electrodes won't be appropriate for this since they are only 1/16 appart.
Anyhow, I thinks it could be just as efficient at lower voltages with a properly tuned circuit. I was looking for an off the shelf PWM with a phase lock loop integrated. I've seen one from Alltrax, but I think it's not offered anymore, correct me if I'm wrong. Last time I sent an email to Alltrax, they said their PWM circuit board was cast in epoxy so it's impossible to modify them. There must be a way around this, because Fast Freddy and H2go, + the other company that has built the 900 hp 100 MpG camaro all used modified version of this pwm. I don't know if it had the PLL integrated, wich uses the frequency corresponding to the the lowest impedance in the load ( at resonnance ).

What I know is that they has modified it the following way:
- Adjustable Frequency ( stock is fixed at 5Khz? )
- Bigger mosefets 400A each!
This means it will easily handle a continiuous load of 100A
-cooling fan

Some topics I'm interested in and don't see a lot of info in hho forums:

-PLL (Phase Lock Loops) to lock resonnance frequency of a PWM to a cell.

-The use of ultrasonic transducers, in a open bath cell, to enhance
HHO production.

- Gas enhancers/ionisers, like LEDs bubblers, just before the gas is fed to the engine.

- Adding cold fog / recirculating eshaust gases to cool down the engine in a high boost / HHO only situation.

- Use of toroidal transformers to create a "loop" of current between the cell and the transformer. "ratchet" diode have to be used in this case.

-Small water gap: 1mm (.040") to be able to use distilled water only in the cell. Creates a gas that is a lot more powerful than when using KOH.

-Exotic electrolytes/catalysts. Fast Freddy and H2Go is using salt water, probably they mix sea water electrolytes with distilled water. This creates all sorts of exotic gases like H4? Can be dangerous and corosive to the engine though, has to use multiple bubbler/scrubber to clean gases. In H2go case, they use alcohol and... gasoline bubblers.... !

-Assymetric plates/tubes Aka Joe cell. Assymetric, meaning that surface area of, typically, center negative electrode is smaller than the surface area of the outer positive electrode. This situation is known to cause negative resistance, ie, energy flowing into the circuit from the environment, and was first observed in vacuum tubes.

If you are an active experimenter, please contact me directly at felaudet@gmail.com or post on this thread.
I'd like to team up with people, for a possible crownfunding campain.
Thank you!

Felix

[jdcproducts]

Hi!
it's been several times I post here and I'm under the impression that not much people here are actually building something. I'd like to find people that are actually experimenting with hydrogen on demand technology, HHO, and especially the advanced experimenters, focused on practical applications, not just theories and benchtop prototypes.

I've build a full stainless steel cell that contains about 10l of water, with a rupture disk for safety. I havn't tested it yet, because I'm still looking for the right driver circuit to run it.

I've considered using the high voltage route, but I fear my electrodes won't be appropriate for this since they are only 1/16 appart.
Anyhow, I thinks it could be just as efficient at lower voltages with a properly tuned circuit. I was looking for an off the shelf PWM with a phase lock loop integrated. I've seen one from Alltrax, but I think it's not offered anymore, correct me if I'm wrong. Last time I sent an email to Alltrax, they said their PWM circuit board was cast in epoxy so it's impossible to modify them. There must be a way around this, because Fast Freddy and H2go, + the other company that has built the 900 hp 100 MpG camaro all used modified version of this pwm. I don't know if it had the PLL integrated, wich uses the frequency corresponding to the the lowest impedance in the load ( at resonnance ).

What I know is that they has modified it the following way:
- Adjustable Frequency ( stock is fixed at 5Khz? )
- Bigger mosefets 400A each!
This means it will easily handle a continiuous load of 100A
-cooling fan

Some topics I'm interested in and don't see a lot of info in hho forums:

-PLL (Phase Lock Loops) to lock resonnance frequency of a PWM to a cell.

-The use of ultrasonic transducers, in a open bath cell, to enhance
HHO production.

- Gas enhancers/ionisers, like LEDs bubblers, just before the gas is fed to the engine.

- Adding cold fog / recirculating eshaust gases to cool down the engine in a high boost / HHO only situation.

- Use of toroidal transformers to create a "loop" of current between the cell and the transformer. "ratchet" diode have to be used in this case.

-Small water gap: 1mm (.040") to be able to use distilled water only in the cell. Creates a gas that is a lot more powerful than when using KOH.

-Exotic electrolytes/catalysts. Fast Freddy and H2Go is using salt water, probably they mix sea water electrolytes with distilled water. This creates all sorts of exotic gases like H4? Can be dangerous and corosive to the engine though, has to use multiple bubbler/scrubber to clean gases. In H2go case, they use alcohol and... gasoline bubblers.... !

-Assymetric plates/tubes Aka Joe cell. Assymetric, meaning that surface area of, typically, center negative electrode is smaller than the surface area of the outer positive electrode. This situation is known to cause negative resistance, ie, energy flowing into the circuit from the environment, and was first observed in vacuum tubes.

If you are an active experimenter, please contact me directly at felaudet@gmail.com or post on this thread.
I'd like to team up with people, for a possible crownfunding campain.
Thank you!

Felix

I find your thread rather interesting. I have also come to the conclusion some of the free energy forums are more based on theory and what I think will work instead of actually building it and testing it.

Bear in mind their is some great experimenters doing great work in this particular forum but I understand where your coming from.

Not much as it pertains to hho research here either. Check out the thread here labeled catalytic combustion of hho yields excess heat.

I stumbled upon this effect several weeks ago when trying to develop a small solar hydrogen storage system.

It seems this effect is the same effect used to yield the so called excess heat in a cold fusion or LENR reaction. We are getting some excellent results and a small community has already began to study the effect more.

I have been developing and experimenting with hho technologies for about 4 years now. I really haven't followed the same path as everyone else. While everyone is trying to replicate the Stanley Meyer technology and worried about high output low wattage numbers, I have tried to focus on splitting the gases up and then storage. A very simple task which is very hard to find information on. I am also interested in the design and development of home brewed or junk yard fuel cells or solid oxide fuel cells which are large enough to power a home or car.

I am still moving forward with gas separation and storage but we have also stumbled upon a really neat heating effect using hho in un-lit form that most if not all the community was un aware of.

Check out the thread here or search on YouTube for Catalytic Combustion Of HHO or email me directly at jdc.products@gmail.com for more in depth information.

Its a very new concept but its also very simple and may prove to be more important that the water car. Current tests are showing that high on demand production levels are not needed to obtain very high energy levels of heat.

[Fel]

Ultrasonic HHO cell / DIY OU heat source etc..

a couple of days ago, I was reaserching bout a way to ionise air before it goes into an engine, and saw this thread about excess heat from catalytic converter fed with HHO. Well in remains to be seen if there is actually excess heat, with proper measurements ( calorimeter? ) It would be nice to have some cheap, DIY OU heat source.. My questioning was about how fast would the metals would break down inside the catlyser?


Anyhow, in regards to my actual hydrogen on demand project, I pretty much made up my mind on the type of power input I'd like to use, and it'll be a big audio amp. I'd rater use low voltages and rely on High Frequency vibrations ( ultrasonic ) than High voltages, for safety issues. High voltages can induce RF interference, microwave and even X-ray radiations, not to mention electric shock. So that's pretty much why I'd like to settle with a low voltage high frequency setup.

Car audio amps these days comes in power in excess of 1000W and frequency response of 50KhZ.. ! for pretty cheap prices.. less than 200$. This means it can be used with ultrasonic transducers ( 40 khz some are less than that, the high power ones are 15Khz ) I want to use a combination of ultrasonic and complex AC/pulsed waveform, that would resonnate both the container and the water molecules. Resonnance feedback mechanism can be used or not. The neat thing about using an audio amp as a PWM is tha there is an infinite number of waveforms that you can use whithin the frequency range of the amp. In other words, it's very adjustable. Using a digital audio amp instead of analog jumps the efficiency close to 100% compared to 60-70% with analog ones. A I-pod with a custom made audio track would be used as a preamp.


One of the design goal is to be able to use any water, contaminated water, suage etc. The use of utrasonic vibrations in the medium would enable this, keeping the surface area of the electrodes active, even in the presence of contamitnents, while facilitating the breaking of the H2O molecules.. Many variables needs to be adressed before this can be a successful device, but the goal is to keep it simple and open source, so that as many people can replicate it.

I'd like to start a crowd funding campain for my project and I would like to meet participants. If you have experience with hydrogen on demand, ECU, car electronics, Audio electronics, Ultrasonics / vibration science, and your are inspired with this project,
Please contact me at: felaudet@gmail.com

A website is soon to be created for this endeavour.
Thank you.
Felix