Stanley Meyer

[tutanka]

you first have to make monoatomic nitrogen.. strongest bond of the diatomic molecules
Bond-dissociation energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you have a lower energy way to break the nitrogen bond Id be glad to hear it.. water has a specific solubility for gases \and it's dependent on TEMPERATURE....also is this CO2+H2O+2Fe -> COH2+2FeO reaction similar to Water gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Make experiments.. open your mind to new concepts without limitation .. an new universe can appear in front to your eyes in minutes.. and do not forget the nitrogen molecules

[tachyon]

check pm .. does the baziev reaction happen without an electric field???
http://www.creol.ucf.edu/Research/Publications/4988.pdf

[Aaron]

breaking nitrogen

you first have to make monoatomic nitrogen.. strongest bond of the diatomic molecules
Bond-dissociation energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you have a lower energy way to break the nitrogen bond Id be glad to hear it.. water has a specific solubility for gases \and it's dependent on TEMPERATURE....also is this CO2+H2O+2Fe -> COH2+2FeO reaction similar to Water gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A simple ozone generator creates a good quantity of atomic nitrogen. It won't stay atomic for long but point is, super critical parameters to create it are not necessary.

I'm not going to mention anyone's proprietary methods for breaking nitrogen with low energy but can be done with low energy using a combination of ignition coils and the right geometry of metal plates.

Catalysts make it easier - but I would beware of the kind of nickel if you go that route because depending on the formulation, can give off vapors that cause suicidal tendencies. Iron can be safer but if it gets to a hot enough temp is another is another issue.

The bottom line is that Meyer created nh3 in his reaction when he started with none as admitted by him and other eye witnesses - the significance or energy requirements are a secondary issue that everyone is free to speculate on their own. Whatever energy requirements really are necessary are already intrinsically satisfied within the system to provide such requirements due to the fact that nh3 is created.

I personally don't buy pre-determined definitions of what is necessary to do what from any reference because I see to many things happening that defy conventional definition.

[tutanka]

check pm .. does the baziev reaction happen without an electric field???
http://www.creol.ucf.edu/Research/Publications/4988.pdf

I dont answer to PM. But sure the reaction can appear without an direct electric field. Meyer have found that .. think as Baziev and read first Meyer patents.

[wolf234]

chemic plasma , cat pl - nitrogen , water

[tutanka]

chemic plasma , cat pl - nitrogen , water

water -- hydrogen-oxygen molecule.. in normal condition do not burn

platinum catalyst -- too expensive but catalyst necessary

air -- nitrogen source

in all case you need every activation energy (starter) for make reaction

you can use lower amount of fuel or capacitor discharge and water as Stanley Meyer

but do not forget AIR as real fuel source

[tachyon]

if the nitrogen is to be reduced then iron should work as well..the catalyst is consumed always

[tutanka]

if the nitrogen is to be reduced then iron should work as well..the catalyst is consumed always

catalyst isn't consumed during the process

[Fel]

Catalytic converter

I had this crazy idea to put a catalytic converter in the place of an air filter to ionise the incomming air to the engine..
There is a company ( Z5 ) that sells ionisation gadjets that is a copper ring plated with gold and other thing and as the air is vortexing into it it creates ionisation..
Problem is it makes the ECU react and it sees this as a too lean mixture and cancels the economy by adding more gas.. You have to use a EFIE just like with HHO.

So I thought why not use a catalytic converter as air ioniser? Would adding high voltage with very low current to it do something to ionise further?

[tutanka]

I had this crazy idea to put a catalytic converter in the place of an air filter to ionise the incomming air to the engine..
There is a company ( Z5 ) that sells ionisation gadjets that is a copper ring plated with gold and other thing and as the air is vortexing into it it creates ionisation..
Problem is it makes the ECU react and it sees this as a too lean mixture and cancels the economy by adding more gas.. You have to use a EFIE just like with HHO.

So I thought why not use a catalytic converter as air ioniser? Would adding high voltage with very low current to it do something to ionise further?

Remember.. for to have success all process must appear at the same time!!

[tachyon]

when you bubble exhaust gases with water you get nitric acid ... tutanka if the process you say is correct then it can happen ONLY with electric fields present..

[wojwrobel]

check

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cheers

[tachyon]

thanks DUDE

[tutanka]

when you bubble exhaust gases with water you get nitric acid ... tutanka if the process you say is correct then it can happen ONLY with electric fields present..

no electric field is used..

[tachyon]

if there's plasma there's an electric field... if my theory is correct it can only happen with electric field.. no electrinos needed//