Stanley Meyer

[wolf234]

My colleague started geet - and the engine. fogger uses. H2SO4. coffee. urea. heat through. induction. thus start the engine.

[tutanka]

My colleague started geet - and the engine. fogger uses. H2SO4. coffee. urea. heat through. induction. thus start the engine.

All informations are written inside Canadian Patent # 2,067,735..

@ Aaron

Is clear, from these words, that russian theory of Baziev is used inside meyer devices (extracted from Canadian Patent # 2,067,735)

".....when water is subjected to a resonance condition water molecules expand and distend; electrons are ejected from the water molecule and absorbed by ionized gases; and the water molecule, thus destabilized, breaks down into its elemental components of hydrogen (2H) and oxygen (O) in combustion zone."

[Aaron]

multiple reactions

All informations are written inside Canadian Patent # 2,067,735..

@ Aaron

Is clear, from these words, that russian theory of Baziev is used inside meyer devices (extracted from Canadian Patent # 2,067,735)

".....when water is subjected to a resonance condition water molecules expand and distend; electrons are ejected from the water molecule and absorbed by ionized gases; and the water molecule, thus destabilized, breaks down into its elemental components of hydrogen (2H) and oxygen (O) in combustion zone."

I agree but there is no such thing as one single reaction that takes place perfectly. Yes, ionized nitrogen can help keep water molecule apart, but an of the separated molecules can still bind to some of the nitrogen to create nh3, n2o, and other molecules. There is a whole "soup" of chemistry going on.

[tutanka]

I agree but there is no such thing as one single reaction that takes place perfectly. Yes, ionized nitrogen can help keep water molecule apart, but but an of the separated molecules can still bind to some of the nitrogen to create nh3, n2o, and other molecules. There is a whole "soup" of chemistry going on.

Read this patent with attention ..

[tachyon]

what catalyst are you using?

[tutanka]

what catalyst are you using?

Isn't important.. you can use some.. but important is understand the principle.. the meyer canadian patent explain all things if you use high voltage.. need to read carefully

[markonah]

What product from amazon that can be recommended?

[tutanka]

What product from amazon that can be recommended?

for what usage?

[tutanka]

alternative configuration..

extracted from canadian patent:

"Laser energy prevents discharge of the ionized gases and provides additional energy input into the molecular destabilization process that occurs at resonance. It is preferable that the ionized gases be subjected to laser (photonic energy) activation in advance of the introduction of the gases into the zone(s); although, for example, a fiber optic conduit may be useful to direct photonic energy directly into the zone. Heat generated in the zone, however, may affect the operability of such an alternative configuration."

[tutanka]

unipolar pulsing at high voltage

You think that an simple unipolar pulsing high voltage discharge can dissociate water?

Meyer use the unipolar pulsing like an standard spark plug ignition the only difference is that instead to have just one spark on plug you have some sparks all togheter for to be sure to obtain the ignition.

But if the high voltage is used just for ignite the mixture of air/hydrogen/oxygen what is the real reaction inside the water fuel cell injector?

[tachyon]

belectrodynamic but you say that it can happen with only heat is this true? is nitrogen needed to have fewer electrons again like meyer? N2 + hv->N2+ + e-

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Tested results by experiment, nano pulse to straight DC power

Regards

Mike

[tutanka]

Tested results by experiment, nano pulse to straight DC power

Regards

Mike

I'm not able to see nothing because the images submitted from you are with very low definition but I know what you are referring... but.... nanopulses aren't used inside Meyer water fuel cell injector.. some times Meyer specify into the patent that the current used is very lower and I believe in that.. nanopulse is completely different very high current is released but sorry also just current isn't able to split simply the water molecules. Actually I'm not able to see around the world any plasma device able to use water instead gasoline for run our cars.

Extracted from the patent:

"Ionized air gases and non-combustible gases, introduced through nozzles 2A1 and 3A1, are intermixed with the expelling water mist to form a fuel-mixture which enters into voltage zone 6 where the mixture is exposed to a pulsating, unipolar high intensity voltage field (typically 20,000 volts at 50 KHz or above at the resonant condition in which current flow in the circuit [amps] is reduced to a minimum)"

[tutanka]

belectrodynamic but you say that it can happen with only heat is this true? is nitrogen needed to have fewer electrons again like meyer? N2 + hv->N2+ + e-

YES... Heat and not high voltage is necessary for obtain an stable reaction in the time. All depend from how you use the physical laws.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I'm not able to see nothing because the images submitted from you are with very low definition but I know what you are referring... but.... nanopulses aren't used inside Meyer water fuel cell injector.. some times Meyer specify into the patent that the current used is very lower and I believe in that.. nanopulse is completely different very high current is released but sorry also just current isn't able to split simply the water molecules. Actually I'm not able to see around the world any plasma device able to use water instead gasoline for run our cars.

Extracted from the patent:

"Ionized air gases and non-combustible gases, introduced through nozzles 2A1 and 3A1, are intermixed with the expelling water mist to form a fuel-mixture which enters into voltage zone 6 where the mixture is exposed to a pulsating, unipolar high intensity voltage field (typically 20,000 volts at 50 KHz or above at the resonant condition in which current flow in the circuit [amps] is reduced to a minimum)"

Sorry for the small images, I do not know why they turned out like that, I will see what I can do about it.

This is just part of a system, this just shows that nano pulses from what is basicly flyback induction (Similar to an induction driver), where the input may be low voltage and amperage, but the voltage at the electrode will depend on whether the water is distilled or with electrolyte eg: 1v in on the primary can give 600v at the electrode or 1v on the primary and a high molar electrolyte may give only 6v. This example shows that distilled water shows a higher efficiency, around 98%.

Now if with distilled water you apply an ionising system as well, you will have high voltage discharging through the ionisation route creating a huge amperage at no cost to the input, it will not be seen by the input. High voltage discharging quickly, nano secounds, creates a huge amperage.

There are many ways of skining the same cat

regards

Mike