Stanley Meyer

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Developement

The only way something like this will be developed is for the manufacture of syn gas which is put into the existing gas main. Here the gas company makes money, the gas workers keep their jobs and the government gets it's taxes, but will the price come down? bet your life NO.

Solar here in Spain has now been taxed, energy tax, so home production will be hit as well. They are tying up all the loose ends little by little.

regards

Mike

[tutanka]

Alex the answer is very simple, no investment. We have the answer, as soon as a scientist is approached and tied up with the investment people, along comes the big buck buy out of the investor and no more is done, the investor has made a killing and he knew this before he was approached, this is how it works.

It is just not $ wise interesting to develope, too many people who now make a lot of money out of oil, NG etc see this as their doom, and they are right, their income will dry up in a couple of years, that goes for the governments as well, so they tie up the scientist and in doing so make a killing without any investment, Voila

regards

Mike

Mike I don't think that is the real reason. The main problem is the law of conservation of energy, Energy IN is directly connected to the Energy OUT. Personally after thousands of real tests I have found that electricity-chemical reaction isn't the right way because you need to use Kw of electric energy for produce more hydrogen/oxygen and if you don't burn immediately you have in part molecular re-association. The way that I have identified is chemical-chemical reaction only using that method I'm able to make plasma from air splitting and burning the water molecules or process other type of molecules (like CO2). As you know I have spent some time on plasma produced from high voltage fields to high frequency but after some failure I have found , casually, this new method and work every time using an very lower amount of fuel. For that reason after study I have connected my method to russian scientist D.H. Baziev because Im sure that electrino exist and I use every time inside my process.

[tutanka]

The only way something like this will be developed is for the manufacture of syn gas which is put into the existing gas main. Here the gas company makes money, the gas workers keep their jobs and the government gets it's taxes, but will the price come down? bet your life NO.

Solar here in Spain has now been taxed, energy tax, so home production will be hit as well. They are tying up all the loose ends little by little.

regards

Mike

I tried to understand how as the nature thinks and I realized that a great discovery should be simple and uncomplicated to operate over time. Scientists are men, and for this reason they think in a complicated way. The old 1900s scientists had begun to understand the connection between electricity and matter but their studies have stopped and no one else has continued their scientific thinking. I came across casually in a pair of these scientists, and I started to think in a simple way without much of a complicated technology as they did in 1900. And I realized that nature, looking around, it teaches you not to talk to you just to be able to see them through.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Electro chemical complex reactions even the best of scientists do not know all the reactions that take place, it is still an open book.

One thing that is real is energy gain from these reactions, the only thing is something is always consumed or transformed to give the energy out, including nuclear.

When using flyback HV where the primary input does not see the load, we have two reactions, one electric and the other chemical. On the electric side we create HV at low amps from low voltage, medium amperage (the gain is not here). This is then changed to a high amperage not by reducing the voltage but by a chemical electron cascade from the electrode metal (that metal is comsumed or changed) the voltage stays HIGH, in time that electrode (the fuel) will have to be replaced. The system is not exactly electrolysis as in Faraday's Law, partly yes and partly no, the no part will take you way over normal Faraday.

The system is a two part system, the high amperage did not come from the high voltage, the high voltage is still there if using distilled water.

regards

Mike

[tutanka]

Electro chemical complex reactions even the best of scientists do not know all the reactions that take place, it is still an open book.

One thing that is real is energy gain from these reactions, the only thing is something is always consumed or transformed to give the energy out, including nuclear.

When using flyback HV where the primary input does not see the load, we have two reactions, one electric and the other chemical. On the electric side we create HV at low amps from low voltage, medium amperage (the gain is not here). This is then changed to a high amperage not by reducing the voltage but by a chemical electron cascade from the electrode metal (that metal is comsumed or changed) the voltage stays HIGH, in time that electrode (the fuel) will have to be replaced. The system is not exactly electrolysis as in Faraday's Law, partly yes and partly no, the no part will take you way over normal Faraday.

The system is a two part system, the high amperage did not come from the high voltage, the high voltage is still there if using distilled water.

regards

Mike

Mike,
Do not forget heat inside an chemical reaction.. electric electron avalance isn't the same.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

[QUOTE=tutanka;251747]Mike,
Do not forget heat inside an chemical reaction.. electric electron avalance isn't the same

https://imageshack.com/my/images

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Isn't it funny, there are now a load of guests looking at this thread

one reason for not posting much

regards

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

I'm posting at the moment but if anyone wants a full working system for nothing and for whatever they have in mind behind their curtain, they can think again.

I take visa, mastercard, direct transfers and cash, cheques NO

mike

[tutanka]

I'm posting at the moment but if anyone wants a full working system for nothing and for whatever they have in mind behind their curtain, they can think again.

I take visa, mastercard, direct transfers and cash, cheques NO

mike

Mike.. on imageshack nothing.. for sell you need to specify on what method is based your device or method , the price and what is the application.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Mike.. on imageshack nothing.. for sell you need to specify on what method is based your device or method , the price and what is the application.

the link works for me, I changed it so look again

I'm not selling, did you not see the rolf's ( ). I will only develope the system into a commercial system if I have control of the investment to the point that it enters production. If nobody trusts me, I certainly do not trust them

regards

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Things are quite simple, anyone who has the money, company and that company pays taxes, any R&D is a tax right off, it costs no money to the owner of that company, it is written off against company profits before TAX. So why is there not the investment, who is going to answer that? So why is there not the investment into what I can do if that money was available?

Answer:-

Not interesting as it would reduce their income in the future (for those that work in energy for profit) catch 22. End of story.

regards

Mike

[tutanka]

the link works for me, I changed it so look again

I'm not selling, did you not see the rolf's ( ). I will only develope the system into a commercial system if I have control of the investment to the point that it enters production. If nobody trusts me, I certainly do not trust them

regards

Mike

Mike,
probably you have understand bad. Is not for me but for guests.
Is normal if you want sell you need to add more informations:

how many energy consume your system
how many water split at second and /or burn
what is the technology used not in details
diagram of energy IN and energy OUT
you sell complete electronic or just plans

etc.....

Sorry but here I have an working device and I don't have interest to spent moneys in your device.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Mike,
probably you have understand bad. Is not for me but for guests.
Is normal if you want sell you need to add more informations:

how many energy consume your system
how many water split at second and /or burn
what is the technology used not in details
diagram of energy IN and energy OUT
you sell complete electronic or just plans

etc.....

Sorry but here I have an working device and I don't have interest to spent moneys in your device.

You don't understand me, I'm not selling anything, I will bring the tech: to a production point in a R&D lab at the cost of a company or person, not me. My time is worth money and that is what is paid for like an employee.

The basic work has been done but there are still problems to be sorted out in a final product such as separation of the H and O, only need the H to make syn gas. Also problems of pressure as the splitting is fast and pressure also dictates efficiency. There are also other parts that could be changed, maybe for the better or not, that is to be tested, but there is still a way to go to get a full proof system, but the basics work and can all be explained, that is not my problem. The problem is who is going to offer a tax deductable grant to finish this, if nobody then I may as well go and read a good book and relax a bit.

regards

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Look at your messages here

Mike

[tutanka]

You don't understand me, I'm not selling anything, I will bring the tech: to a production point in a R&D lab at the cost of a company or person, not me. My time is worth money and that is what is paid for like an employee.

The basic work has been done but there are still problems to be sorted out in a final product such as separation of the H and O, only need the H to make syn gas. Also problems of pressure as the splitting is fast and pressure also dictates efficiency. There are also other parts that could be changed, maybe for the better or not, that is to be tested, but there is still a way to go to get a full proof system, but the basics work and can all be explained, that is not my problem. The problem is who is going to offer a tax deductable grant to finish this, if nobody then I may as well go and read a good book and relax a bit.

regards

Mike

OK.. Good for you