"Maybe" Different Approach On Electrolysis?

[Aaron]

Y-Factor

Jetijs,

There is one other thing to the Joe Cell with the orgone part...he says Wilhelm Reich's "Y-Factor" is needed to make it work With Reich's orgone motor, some western electric motor hooked to an antenna and ground rod ran when he put his hands near it, etc... and needed the Y-Factor to run that he never revealed and when he died said nobody could find out until 50 years after his death.

Last year November I think was 50 years and the Reich museum is aboutto release it all or already did. Some have said it is the YOU factor...meaning your belief is necessary to psychically charge the cell with orgone to make it work.

I understand the psychotronic generator part of it but IF this is what Reich was referring to and IF this is valid, then the Joe Cell will only work if you believe it will and have the good attitude about it.

Does this come into play with the Meyer technology? I don't think so.

[Jetijs]

Aaron, I mentioned Joe not because of the Y factor or anything else to do with joecells, I just found interesting that he once said that unregulated altenator output has some unique properties. I found this interesting because the user fearjar in that forum link you posted, also came to a conclusion that he needs to remove the voltage regulator from the alternator.

[Aaron]

Alternator Supply

Hi Jetijs,

I understood that. I just posted about Y-Factor because it is something that might apply and almost nobody has mentioned it.

For the alternator, I posted this schematic in the forum quite a while back and in the radianth2o yahoo group long ago.



I always thought everyone was tapping the alternator without the voltage regulator...otherwise you're not going to get hardly anything from the alternator that is being produced. It's the only way to go (without the voltage regulator).

[rick123]

altenators

Most alternators as the two in my pictures would have external voltage regulators? The three stator windings marked 1,2,3 in my picture is were I would tie into. This will match up with the 1,2,3 from Aaron's circuits above?
Can someone confirm this for me? thankyou...rick

[h20power]

My thoughts on water for fuel

I have been away hammering out this water for fuel technology and am at the point to start testing again.
The WFC design is very important, the design shown can do the following;
1. Keep water level constant.
2. Filter the water.
3. Has the anode and cathode totally isolated.
4. Auto filling.
5. Adjustable water flow through the anode and cathode.
6. Only the anode and cathode touch the water, no wire in the water.
7. Set up like Meyer's WFC with nine tubes, in sets of threes.
It is all of what I have learned put into this design. Every thought of mine is in there with problem solving on all problems of the past.

In the making of the coils I am makeing it just like Meyer did in the injector patent. But added Newmans theories in that I am using just about as much copper as found in an alternator. Plus I took out the blocking diode and replaced it with a voltage multiplier, gathered that from Daniel Dingel. It is important to know that the chokes are to be matched too the WFC, and the Primary should have a minimum of 4 ohms for that was my raw messurements of an alternators primary. I will also used 16 gauge wire for the chokes and get the resistance using skin effect the same as Meyer did. The only way to get a large back EMF spike is with a lot of copper used, so I am not holding back on this one.

The electronics have varyable voltage that is independant of pulsing and frequency used and is 3 phased.

I have been looking at Stanley Meyer and Daniel Dingel, noteting what was the same in their technologies.

I know that Daniel Dingel use of vacuum as the deliver system into the injector too the engine acts like a self-regulation system. The more demand put on the engine the more the vacuums produced and thus the more hho gas suched into the combustions chamber. It is the system I intend on useing with my car. For it was way simpler than timing the water being injected into and injector per amount of voltage applied to the injector per rpms and load placed on the engine.

Now I am still in the R&D phase but I feel I am on the right track.

When Meyer talks of amp leakage he is talking about a direct short or arcing betweein the anode and cathode. Both men use water flowing through the WFC's, and cool running is a must for if water gets too hot, well I don't have too tell you guys that one.

Anyway once I get the WFC and electronics are built I can test all of this out, plus add in audio if I want very easily. I will be shooting for resonance at 42.8k Hz for starters, and go from there.

My work will be shared as I belive the only way any of us are going too see this technology is for it too be given away.

[jstadwater]

Hello h2oPower,

Your approach sounds very good, have you made any headway or new tests recently?

[pln4472]

H20power

I believe you will find
Vacuum in an engine is highest at idle and lowest at full throttle.

Marlin

[jstadwater]

H20power

I believe you will find
Vacuum in an engine is highest at idle and lowest at full throttle.

Marlin

Yes, INSIDE the engine, that is correct. But, the reverse would be true if you were feeding hydroxy into the air intake tube just BEFORE the carb, throttle body, etc.

[triumphdave]

i have tried this. using a rather massive 1500 watt rms alpine d class amp hooked up to my laptop with a signal generator program running i managed to get a big................. nothing. the amp did squeek but nothing happened to in the electrolyser. my amp has never been the same since..

[Redmeanie]

i have tried this. using a rather massive 1500 watt rms alpine d class amp hooked up to my laptop with a signal generator program running i managed to get a big................. nothing. the amp did squeek but nothing happened to in the electrolyser. my amp has never been the same since..

Yeah, if you read up there I give the reason why. Its the Mosfets. Change the Mosfets to Power Mosfets and not Audio Mosfets and it will. But who cares there is no "Magic Frequency" so far anyway, so a PWM does a good enough job controlling current and Freq. so its not cost effective anyway.

[triumphdave]

yeah sorry was late at night when i read the post. my amp is fine now it survived turned out one of my rca leads broken giving me a weird crackle thru the speakers. i tried it 18 months ago when i first found out about pwm's and their use in electrolysers. certainly opens the way to powering a massive hho device for heating your home or a similar application.

[steptoe]

Funny, I was just thinking about this and search the net regarding the subject, so here I am.

I too imagine that an audio amplifier would do the job. Bearing in mind that Stan Meyer's idea was to charge the plates with a frequency rather than just pure DC voltage as you might do from a car battery.

Using pure DC not only draws a lot of amps but also tends to get the water quite hot which of course is wasted energy.

I tried the idea 2 years ago with the 555 but could never get it to work.

Just a little off topic but still talking about amplifiers. I was once in a situation many years ago where my car which was an automatic suffered a flat battery. With no battery charger in sight I experimented by using my dads old power amp as a battery charger. By use of a rectifier I managed to get it to push around 7 amps whilst pushing music through it. Getting it to run at around 3 amps (didn't want to push it too much) and 2 hours later I had enough charge to start my car...

[Nix]

t-amp

I have been messing around with electrolysis and made a simple one out of a plastic Mt Dew bottle and two screws just to see what would happen. after a day of messing around with it and a solar panel I ripped out of an outdoor light, I hooked it up my sonic t-amp. I cranked it all the way and played a few music files from my pc and sure enough I got some bubbles. Whats odd it when i played some frequency sweeps on you tube nothing. but when I played things like "ultimate bass test" or something to that effect, i got bubbles. not sure what the spec are for the t-amp or why anything of this is happening but there you go.