All about electrolysers, HHO, joecells ect. :)

[Aaron]

what's the deal?

Maybe this person can fess up about what is on that page:
ghazi@wavepowerplant.com

That is posted at the bottom of that page.

[Redmeanie]

Well it is a good thing we have experienced users like you around to keep us on track!!


Maybe you could comment on my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...fuel-cell.html ? I am anxious to know if it is possible and how effective it would be.

I saw that, I actually saw these on the Science Channel a few months back. They are good. Anything that a large Corp. like Panasonic would put their name on is going to work. But from what I remember its just not that cost effective or efficient for the average person. Keep in mind a Large Corp is trying to make Max. Profit$ also so just to purchase it would probably be Crazy Expensive.

One Model they showed that I think Phillips developed was a Solar Powered Model Like this, that was just a Giant Electrolyzer that also separated the H and O for running a pure Hydrogen Vehicle Cell. They don't show allot about those devices, I guess so no one steals their idea or whatnot.

You could very easily design and build one of these yourself. I have thought about using my spare windmill set-up just to see how it would work, but as of now I have no use for stored H at my house.

[Rayaz]

I saw that, I actually saw these on the Science Channel a few months back. They are good. Anything that a large Corp. like Panasonic would put their name on is going to work. But from what I remember its just not that cost effective or efficient for the average person. Keep in mind a Large Corp is trying to make Max. Profit$ also so just to purchase it would probably be Crazy Expensive.

One Model they showed that I think Phillips developed was a Solar Powered Model Like this, that was just a Giant Electrolyzer that also separated the H and O for running a pure Hydrogen Vehicle Cell. They don't show allot about those devices, I guess so no one steals their idea or whatnot.

You could very easily design and build one of these yourself. I have thought about using my spare windmill set-up just to see how it would work, but as of now I have no use for stored H at my house.

I heavily edited the post, mind reading it again? I found some fuel cells at other online sites along with some more information.

[Lemontree]

Thanks Kumaran, also it seems for me too, that conditoning process is too weak, so the koh water after 2 days is completely clean. ok, i will try to make richer koh solution, so more amps can get through

- if i will connect not 7 but 6 cells - than the polarity for cells will be different, but as i read earlier posts - polarity must be the same - in conditoning, and later in producting hho. isnt it right?

[kumaran]

Hi Lemontree,

- if i will connect not 7 but 6 cells - than the polarity for cells will be different, but as i read earlier posts - polarity must be the same - in conditioning, and later in producing hho. isn’t it right?

No polarity change. Just down swap the polarity. Leave one connection (+) to be connected to cell end plate. The other connection (-), move from 8th plate (end plate) to 7th plate to make it 6 cells. This will not change polarity.

In my latest test cell, I did conditioning while driving. Initially the cell was pulling 10A to 15A. I change electrolyte after each test drive. After few test drives normally lasted 1.5 hours each drive, the electrolyte solutions remains clear. This is crude way of conditioning the cell. I'm a bit impatient person.

I bought 25KG of KOH long ago. I kept few bottles of KOH pallets and the rest diluted into water till saturated. This strong electrolyte solution then poured into few 5 liter bottles and stores it. Till now, I still have 3 x 5 liter electrolyte solutions unused.

It was not easy when I first search for pure KOH and NaOH to buy. I spend lots of money buying small bottles (laboratory grade) during initial test. Only chemical company sells this stuff and most of companies won't sell to consumer. At last I manage to pursuit one company to sell to me. 25KG KOH is so much cheaper compared to each 1KG laboratory grade chemical.

[aBrotze]

Minimal Stainless Steel Plate Thickness

Hey guys.. I have read that plate thickness should be thick enough so as to be regid and not easily bent. So what gauge stainless steel meets this test?


Thanks

[Doc]

Don't believe everything you read.....

This video has been around A LONG Time....And no one has been able to validate it. A couple of buddies and myself built an Exact Replica, as far as Visually possible. Played with All the Frequencies in that area and got almost nill results. Without them showing the wiring and zooming out to confirm the claims, it is just not even reasonable to believe !

Heck I wish it were true, we would all be!

Just as a matter of interest what type of unit did you use to generate the frequencies?

[fuel_defender]

Hi Folks. I am glad I found this tread.
Been dabbeling in hho for 10, or so years now, However have been getting seriouse about it lately.
It is refreshing to find a spot like this, as I thought I was a "LONE RANGER".
Hope you all dont mind if I stop in, and bounce ideas from time to time.

Scott.

[Tarkus]

Hello and welcome

Scott: Glade to have you join us

[bill57]

how to build a vic

can aneyone tell me how to build the vic that stan meyer used and what materal you used thank you bill57

[Doc]

Basic Questions to further efficiency

I have read all 9 pages of this thread but can't seem to deduce the following information.
1. Has anyone ever compared the efficency of the multi tubular design vs the joe cell type and the multiple plate design. I am trying to get more than 2 lpm.
2. Is there general agreement that 20A is the most efficient amps vs HHO output.
3. On the multiple tubular design does one actually achieve a higher efficency by "tuning" the tubes and if so by how much?
4. How many tubes is the equivalent of how many plates. For example a 6 tube design is the same as a 12 plate design.

[fuel_defender]

Scott: Glade to have you join us

Tarkus, Thank you for the welcome, my freind.

I am a bit stumped.
With my new grid design, I seem to have the opposite problem posted in earlyer theads here. I have to many amps happining, melt downs, 200F water temps, but it runs a lawn mower till melt down.

This is with nothing but residuals it the system.
I start out at 10A, then after 10 min, it jumps to 40A

Fantastic HHo production, until melt down.

If anything, I have invented an ass kicking water heater here.

Anyone? please?

[triumphdave]

hey guys i'm new to this forum but not so new to hho generators i have mine setup with tubes with just plain tap water and get .9-1 lpm at 9-12 amps it creeps up to 12 amps after around 30mins highest temp it seems to reach is about 40'c. what do you think? is this good production it is early days with this particular cell but i think once i finish the electronics are complete its production will skyrocket.

[ANTIQUER]

Tarkus, Thank you for the welcome, my freind.

I am a bit stumped.
With my new grid design, I seem to have the opposite problem posted in earlyer theads here. I have to many amps happining, melt downs, 200F water temps, but it runs a lawn mower till melt down.

This is with nothing but residuals it the system.
I start out at 10A, then after 10 min, it jumps to 40A

Fantastic HHo production, until melt down.

If anything, I have invented an ass kicking water heater here.

Anyone? please?

Hi! Scott.

I think the members would need more info. on your cell design to answer your questions. The two things that immediately come to mind are electrolyte to concentrated or over driving the cell.

A little late but welcome to the forum.

Al




Al

[fuel_defender]

Hi Al, thanks for the quick reply.

Basicly, I have a 12 plate (6 cell) grid. The plates are .032 X 2.75 X 4.0"
with alternating + & - spaced at .050 and .250 from cell to cell. They are wall plates and I think they are 316 grade.

I am using backing soda for an electrolite and started with 1-1/2 teaspoon in a 4" id x 14" abs pipe.

On the last test, I changed the water and just barely coated the spoon.
Could it be that since I am using tap water, that this could be messing with me?

Also, I plan on installing this in my cummins diesel. Anyone have any luck with that?

Thank you in advance.

Scott.