Hydrogen boost in Honda Accord by Kumaran

[kumaran]

First version of fuel heater project setup.

[kumaran]

Second version of fuel heater project setup.

[kumaran]

Second version of fuel heater project setup (part 2)

[ghahai ghato]

Many people in my country uses air conditioner waste water to insert into engine. They said they really can feel much horsepower compared to before. Again I can't verify the results at this moment because I'm not going for higher power engine but fuel saving.

Hi all...

Yeah... I've been running this water-methanol infusion system for more than 50,000km now...
It really makes my car run better during midday hot and heavy traffic... (it's really hot here in Malaysia at noon!)

Previously, I would turn the WIS on/off whenever my wife uses the car (without her knowing) and she would complain the car being a bit sluggish each time I turned the system off...

My WI system runs on recycling the air-con waste water that goes through a mixing process with a tiny proportion of methanol. Still trying to get the mixing process to work consistantly...

FYI... jus collected my car and my FC has gone back to normal now...
Will be reinstalling the WIS, HHO and O2 extender soon...
Wish me luck!

[kumaran]

Hi ghahai ghato,

Thank you for sharing information. Now you got to start all over again like taking base mileage with and without alternative fuel. What is your cars base mileage now after ECU settings rectified?

[ghahai ghato]

Baseline FC..... hmmm...

Hi ghahai ghato,

Thank you for sharing information. Now you got to start all over again like taking base mileage with and without alternative fuel. What is your cars base mileage now after ECU settings rectified?

1st off - your Fuel Vapourizer is total awesome dude! Hope it'll really work...

Hmm.... my baseline FC... let's see... my 100% urban FC is somewhere around 10.0 km/litre - 12.5 km/l which is very bad since I idle a lot (midday bad traffic) + my place is kinda hilly + plenty of speed bumps + many traffic lights....
However, my 100% highway FC is kinda good, around 16.0 km/l - 16.5 km/l depending on the load.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward today since I've finish installing my WIS and will be fitting the O2 extenders this eve... Still hoping for the best that this mod will work...

[ANTIQUER]

1st off - your Fuel Vapourizer is total awesome dude! Hope it'll really work...

Hmm.... my baseline FC... let's see... my 100% urban FC is somewhere around 10.0 km/litre - 12.5 km/l which is very bad since I idle a lot (midday bad traffic) + my place is kinda hilly + plenty of speed bumps + many traffic lights....
However, my 100% highway FC is kinda good, around 16.0 km/l - 16.5 km/l depending on the load.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward today since I've finish installing my WIS and will be fitting the O2 extenders this eve... Still hoping for the best that this mod will work...

You could save some worrying with the methanol/water mixture by putting the methanol in your gas tank. That's what they are selling at the auto parts stores as octane booster, etc. It also helps get any water out that may have accumulated in the gas tank. Usual mix is 4-6 0z. in 20 gals. of gas. Good luck with this & your HHO system.

[ANTIQUER]

Hi! Kumaran;
Good pics. of the system on your motorbike! I think another part of your problem is you are getting the fuel too hot(I assume you are using gasoline for fuel) and causing a problem we can have here in hot weather called "vapor lock" or something like it. Try using only 2-4 turns of copper tubing around the exhaust. It will decrease the pressure & be a lot safer & you won't need the S.S. container or moisture filter. If you want to try it in the car wrapping tubing around the radiator hose or water heater heater hose should supply all the heat you need, but you really shouldn't need it as has already been said (by RedMeanie, I think) as the HHO system should work fine on it's own.

[ghahai ghato]

You could save some worrying with the methanol/water mixture by putting the methanol in your gas tank. That's what they are selling at the auto parts stores as octane booster, etc. It also helps get any water out that may have accumulated in the gas tank. Usual mix is 4-6 0z. in 20 gals. of gas. Good luck with this & your HHO system.

Hmm... interesting.... I've read about this somewhere before; etanol added to fuel to boost octane or RON...(what does RON stands for?)...
Anyway, my methanol is actually 1 part (25%) nitrometanol : 14 part methanol...

[kumaran]

Hi ANTIQUER,

Hi! Kumaran;
Good pics. of the system on your motorbike! I think another part of your problem is you are getting the fuel too hot(I assume you are using gasoline for fuel) and causing a problem we can have here in hot weather called "vapor lock" or something like it. Try using only 2-4 turns of copper tubing around the exhaust. It will decrease the pressure & be a lot safer & you won't need the S.S. container or moisture filter. If you want to try it in the car wrapping tubing around the radiator hose or water heater heater hose should supply all the heat you need, but you really shouldn't need it as has already been said (by RedMeanie, I think) as the HHO system should work fine on it's own.

Yes, I realise of hot fuel after first test using 20 turns of copper tubing. I'm a bit lazy to undo the things assembled so I try different ways to make usable. Still the setup can be used for steam injector into air intake. Instead of gasoline, use water to boil and the steam goes into air intake.

Thank you for reminding me on using hot fuel for car. I still have some extra copper tubing. I may wrap 4 turns of copper tubing onto radiator hose to heat the fuel before enters carburetor. Just wanna see the difference in fuel consumptions. I hope this weekend test give better results by using all kind of alternative method.

I have lend ghahai ghato my 8 plate series cell for his testing. Hopefully, he could make full use of it and report some good results.

[kumaran]

Updates

Hi guys,

Pass weekend, I was busy to find out information from my automechanic on how to modify my Honda Accord carburetor. Previously he suggested on narrowing down injector hole with small wire so we did it on last Saturday. Open the carburetor, noticed that there are two injector. Primary injector with number 115 (small hole) and secondary injector 170 (bigger hole). Mechanic tried to insert three small wire into primary injector hole to make it even smaller.

The engine idles normal but on throttle press, the engine starts jerking. After few rounds of road testing, I told my mechanic it is too dangerous to take the car for fuel consumption test (jerking on throttle press). He suggest on using smaller injector from lower capacity engine (Honda Civic 1400). Also the current carburetor in my Honda Accord is meant for 1.6L engine and not for 1.8L. Previous owner must have changed it.

I bought Honda Civic 1400 carburetor kit but instead of mechanic do the replacement job, I and my friend did the job neatly. We dismantle the carburetor, clean up all the parts using petrol before do the part replacement . Even lower CC carburetor kit, the primary injector size is still 115 but secondary injector size is now 155. So I think 115 is the smallest injector size needed for any car engine to operate properly.

Not all the carburetor parts available in the kit because of different model. So we replace which ever available. After fixing, we fired the engine for the first time and the engine started. Happy moment After adjusting the idle air fuel ratio, the engine runs like a champ. The RPM meter stays at 800 RPM and stable. The engine runs much better now.

Took the car for a test ride and I didn't notice much in power reduction. Maybe the secondary injector not being used for slower ride (not sure). I'm not sure if secondary injector will be functioning for speed of 100KM per hour run during fuel consumption test. If not then the injector replacement will not make any difference in fuel consumption since the smaller injector size is same (old and new).

[kumaran]

Updates

Hi guys,

The Honda Accord carburetor has fuel leakage between carburetor and engine. The engine was running fine for a while until the leakage happens. Today (hopefully no rain), I'm going to take out the carburetor and make proper gasket to seal the fuel leakage problem.

[kumaran]

Updates

Hi guys,

I took out the carburetor yesterday and made the mounting gasket. After fixing double gasket, still fuel leaking from the joint. Today, I'm going to apply some glue before fitting the carburetor. Previous owner never made the carburetor mounting base between engine and carburetor properly. So the surface is not even and cause the fuel leakage.

[MoHHO]

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[Redmeanie]

Hi guys,

I took out the carburetor yesterday and made the mounting gasket. After fixing double gasket, still fuel leaking from the joint. Today, I'm going to apply some glue before fitting the carburetor. Previous owner never made the carburetor mounting base between engine and carburetor properly. So the surface is not even and cause the fuel leakage.

Kumaran, Send me a pic of what you need. I have a huge Asian salvage yard about a mile from my home. I could check and see if they might have it instead of patching it. Do what you have to do now to get it going, but I will help you find something more permanent. Also If you need the factory gasket, give me the info on the car and I will try and get it locally for you, and send it to you. Im assuming you dont have very many parts suppliers there?