Water Sparkplug

[roxaz]

someone made it? YouTube - Cold Fusion Plasma 9

[Gibs]

Think twice

Nice to have you back Mike.

I hope that everyone has already took this as a serious advice.

Maybe by sharing this experience, you just saved somebodys life!

We WILL think twice.

Thank you.


Gibs

[Ozicell]

Coil Primary

Hi Guys,

I just posted over on Ball Spark plug an update for those interested.

Now I have a question regarding your circuits. or more to the point, what's happening at the primaryand how that translates to the secondary! I am waiting on a distributor kit to replace my points but meanwhile I have purchased a coil with a lot of grunt! I am hoping that I may not need any more power for my plugs than this will produce.

Ok, the coil primary is of course 12volts input but operates at .45ohms. If I am correct, that will translate into around 26.5amps going in at the primary. The secondary produces 60,000volts, I don't know what amperage to expect at the secondary, I realise resistance is a factor so I will be running my Kiker replicants or similar.

My question is, how will this stack up beside your circuits?

Has anyone played with a coil like this before? Knowing the effects I got with my plugs on just standard points and standard coil, I am hoping for big things with the new set up!

All thoughts and suggestions greatly received.

Cheers
Ozi

[Ansis Freimanis]

to Ozi

This circuit is very simple. Your standard Coil+ plug wires are remaining the same. You must change Spark plugs (must be without resistors) and you must make secondary voltage (120V-220V DC out). After- You connect this (120V-220V) secondary voltage to Your Sparkplugs through High Voltage diodes. Your ordinary spark now is more "powerful".
P.S. I think your induction coil can be ordinary.

[gmeast]

Did you check this out?

This circuit is very simple. Your standard Coil+ plug wires are remaining the same. You must change Spark plugs (must be without resistors) and you must make secondary voltage (120V-220V DC out). After- You connect this (120V-220V) secondary voltage to Your Sparkplugs through High Voltage diodes. Your ordinary spark now is more "powerful".
P.S. I think your induction coil can be ordinary.

Hi Ansis,

Did you check out the VexUs circuit? I use solid plug wires, but initially I used the stock plug wires and ran separate plasma wires to the plug tops ... it works either way.

I am only using 3uF CDI cap but it is a very nice plasma spark. I'll post the new spark event video (since I added my new oscillator transformer).

Peace,

Greg

[gmeast]

power usage

Hi all,

Now that I am generating ALL of the power my VexUs circuit uses (that includes the oscillator/inverter power) I can give you REAL power usage figures for the VexUs circuit.

at idle: 8A @ 13.8VDC = 110.4 Watts
at 4500 RPM: 10A @ 13.8 VDC = 138 Watts

I just wanted to share this information.

Peace,

Greg

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi, Greg!

Thank, you for your logical and of course intellectual circuit evolution. It is good through out inverter and making a simple, but of course anagogic device. I make real generator and it is simple as possible. There is 1 IRF540 + torroidal transformer + sinusoidal generator. This circuit is very small and I want make it- in box after some time. About HV wires: I want make custom wires. It means original wires- silicone (from distributor) + copper from "box" HV diodes. It is very simple. Sparkplug in top of anode is screwed head. Under this I think screwing copper HV wires from diodes, but on the top of screwed head connect HV wire from distributor. Other kind- is making 2 wires together custom contact with hobby crimp and this means- I have 2 copper wires- one from distributor and second from HV diodes box. This of course I connect under screwed head, but then I must isolate top of the Sparkplug. I think only about 12V- have I make a noise filter (for radio) or not?

[Ansis Freimanis]

to Greg

My calculations is similar to yours. I think this is optimal power used for this device.
Thank, you.

[ashtweth]

10A ...wuu huuu!! That leaves 20 amps for the booster
Thanks for the report Greg

[ashtweth]

Here you go guys, we were so impressed with all the groups efforts, and research that it inspired us to put this video production together with every ones collective efforts.

Water_Spark_Plug.avi

In fact i am so impressed with this research and how far every one is taking it working together that i am going to talk to the Panacea trustee's about making a donation to our head engineer Luc at the end of the year for this research

Greg, Luc, lapperll, Peter Lindermann ALL! you guys all know who you are and are mentioned and featured in this video.So you guys don't get board, we added in our results of the booster on the Brigg's also with the booster on the car, plus this video also features a suppressed plug (Ian's) exclusively given to us, we also aimed to help Rob Kupra and him, plus support the open source engineers.

You guys get the Panacea award for excellence - under the "open source device of the year", and at the end of the year ill be talking to Luc to help all, ill be adding to this video all other results and our plug wear report as they come in so its a good start.

Well done guys, the video is also a compilation as well.
Be on you tube as well tongiht

[gotoluc]

gotoluc, are you still here?
I have a question. Remember those tests you made of two different voltages on the primary cap, where the energy in joles was the same in both tests but the test with higher voltage and lower capacity showed a bigger effect? What circuit were you using? The basic one where there is only one primary cap that is dumped into ignition coil and the cap positiveterminal is connected to the HV output via a diode string? Or was ir a circuit with a separate booster side? Because I have a suspicion that there is a big difference in both circuits. Because I can't see almost any improvement in the plasma if I double the voltage on the booster side keeping the same capacity. The plasma seems the same no matter if you use 300v or 1000v on the booster side. If you used the basic circuit for your testsm then this should be investigated because so far it seems that the booster circuit needs more capacity (thus more amps and faster electrode wear) to get stronger effect, but the original circuit seems all about the voltage and the higher the voltage.
Thanks,
Jetijs

Hi Jetijs,

I'm still here just been busy with other commitments. Also I'm now in Florida for 2 weeks, so I'm limited to dial-up internet access during this time.

All my tests and video's are done with the basic circuit. The high voltage test was like the attached circuit below but with different cap uf value depending on charge voltage. Also note that the Capacitors I used for the hi voltage tests were both AC Capacitors (non polarized)

For those of you who have not seen the video Jetijs is referring too, here is the link: YouTube - Capacitance Vs. Voltage and Diode Test 1

If anyone else has asked me a question that I have not answered, please ask again as I may have missed your post.

Luc

[jstadwater]

Hey Guys,

I've been going kinda slow here since Saturday. Thanks everyone for your concern and comments for me to get better from the shock accident. It means allot that you guys care about others, so thanks from the bottom of my still beating heart! I still have shoulder and rib pain, but it's getting better each day. I actually slept without enough pain to wake me last night, first time since Saturday.

I just completed the VexUs install in the Suburban, started it up and it purred like a kitten! I have a couple tests to perform before I take her out on the road. I started it up without the plasma circuit on, and monitored the readouts on my laptop through the OBD2 connection. Specifically the o2 sensors and the fuel trim readouts, fuel trim was 0% as normal and o2 sensors were reading normally. I flipped on the VexUs circuit and the fuel trim readouts started fluctuating like crazy, as did the o2 sensor signals, I guess the ECM was trying to figure out what the heck was going on! (Good luck with that, mr. ECM ) This was at factory settings, I have not changed the program yet to lean out the fuel mixture or retard the timing, that'll be tomorrow! When the plasma circuit comes on, the idle does go up and immediately the ECM takes over the idle speed to keep it "acceptable" according to it's program parameters. (I can re-program that also) I measured the amp draw from the battery to the inverter, at idle it was 2 amps. I quickly opened the throttle, (no stumble or miss, very quick response and smooth as can be) and held it for a few seconds probably around 3,000 rpm from the sound, the amp draw never went past 3.5 amps. Keep in mind, this is a 5.7 liter V-8, instead of a 4-cylinder, pretty low amps there. I also measured the feed line to the kick wires, the draw is still only between .10 and .12 amps.

I am using quad shield satellite cable (18 gauge inner wire, shielded to 2,300mhz) from the voltage tripler inside the cab out to the standard 2-way and 4-way cable TV splitters under the hood. 2.5uF at 450VDC powered by a 1000 watt inverter and isolation transformer. Inverter is happy as a Lark, so far so good! I will post pics tomorrow, my wife has the camera today. I can't wait to see how this 350 Chevy is going to perform on the road with this circuit! Stay tuned, it can only get better from here on out............................................... Mike

[gmeast]

progress

Hey Guys,

I've been going kinda slow here since Saturday. Thanks everyone for your concern and comments for me to get better from the shock accident.

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I am using quad shield satellite cable (18 gauge inner wire, shielded to 2,300mhz) from the voltage tripler inside the cab out to the standard 2-way and 4-way cable TV splitters under the hood. 2.5uF at 450VDC powered by a 1000 watt inverter and isolation transformer. Inverter is happy as a Lark, so far so good! I will post pics tomorrow, my wife has the camera today. I can't wait to see how this 350 Chevy is going to perform on the road with this circuit! Stay tuned, it can only get better from here on out............................................... Mike

Hi Mike,

On top of being glad you're recovering, I am also looking forward to your renewed progress with VexUs and any details you provide.

Peace,

Greg

[revizal]

Plug condition after 7 days test

Here you go guys, we were so impressed with all the groups efforts, and research that it inspired us to put this video production together with every ones collective efforts.

Water_Spark_Plug.avi

In fact i am so impressed with this research and how far every one is taking it working together that i am going to talk to the Panacea trustee's about making a donation to our head engineer Luc at the end of the year for this research

Greg, Luc, lapperll, Peter Lindermann ALL! you guys all know who you are and are mentioned and featured in this video.So you guys don't get board, we added in our results of the booster on the Brigg's also with the booster on the car, plus this video also features a suppressed plug (Ian's) exclusively given to us, we also aimed to help Rob Kupra and him, plus support the open source engineers.

You guys get the Panacea award for excellence - under the "open source device of the year", and at the end of the year ill be talking to Luc to help all, ill be adding to this video all other results and our plug wear report as they come in so its a good start.

Well done guys, the video is also a compilation as well.
Be on you tube as well tongiht

Hi Ash,

Thank you for the video. It was a very strong support for the forum to continue the progress of the plasma spark.

Btw, after 7 days of driving test, how about your plug condition? Is there any melting electrode just like Jetijs's one? Any wear at distributor side? And how about the fuel consumption so far?

In my driving test my full baterry charged 600 watt UPS drawn empty for only about 40 minutes 'plasma ON'. It was so quick that I could not try it for long distance driving (hours).

Revizal.

[ashtweth]

Hi Rev, thank you for all your great videos, especially the pollution ones, it really made a difference to the whole presentation .

Now yes today it is D day, ill pull them off and make a video of them, we have 30 minutes left of driving as i write this. . I think Andrew (driver) filled up recently so the MPG report wont be far off. Ill also be able to take the car to get a Dyno done in December for all- Wont be long

Ash