Water Sparkplug

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oscillator

Is that an "MJ2455" you are using and not the 1n3055?

Hi mstanner,

If you're referring to the oscillator, there are two types of transistors used. For the PNP's I use MJ2955. The NPN's are 2N3055's. Some folks use different PNP's. I think Rev used MJ2955's too.

Peace,

Greg

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Thanks Greg

The last drawing I have showed 2n1305 for Q1 & Q2. So I will update it to show MJ2955 for them.
Is there any other changes to the drawing I should make?
I know someone was talking about puting a nother transistor in the circuit to lower the amps used, but could not figher out what he was saying.

Mike

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PNP Transistor

Thanks Greg

The last drawing I have showed 2n1305 for Q1 & Q2. So I will update it to show MJ2955 for them.
Is there any other changes to the drawing I should make?
I know someone was talking about puting a nother transistor in the circuit to lower the amps used, but could not figher out what he was saying.

Mike

It is OK if you built your oscilator with 2N1305 (a PNP Transistor). I used MJ2955 (PNP transistor too) that the only available in my town. If I'm not wrong... Just what like Greg done, we could adjust the value of caps (will effect the working frequency) and base resistor (will effect the output voltage). But you could build as same as the schematic, it will work well too.

Rev.

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other components

Thanks Greg

The last drawing I have showed 2n1305 for Q1 & Q2. So I will update it to show MJ2955 for them.
Is there any other changes to the drawing I should make?
I know someone was talking about puting a nother transistor in the circuit to lower the amps used, but could not figher out what he was saying.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Depending on the transformer, the base resistors to the 3055's and the capacitors affect the oscillator's frequency. I use a 50 Ohm (5 watt) resistors and 1 uF (16 VDC) caps and it operates at 90 Hz. I fan cool the 3055's and the transformer. I do not know the best frequency for this, but it is stable.

My Transformer is 24 VA wired as 115 VAC x 10 VAC with center tap. It is a TAMURA PF24-10.

Peace,

Greg

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Resuming tests

Happy New Year everyone,

The Bug is whole again ... finally! I will be reinstalling the VexUs circuit with its new oscillator. Also I have begun documenting the physical dimensions of the firestorm spark plugs so that I can detect any wear. I'll post the photos and other data both on Energetic and OverUnity.

The oil leak 'fix' was challenging just because. What I did seemed to work though.

I know it's off topic but I posted some pics of the task:

Peace,

Greg

oil cooler ready to remove


broken mounting tab still on cooler


tab and block


cut off remaining (old original) mounting tab


fix-it mounting plate


screw heads for metal filled epoxy to grab on to


fix-it plate mounted ... see the screw heads


metal filled epoxy stuffed into damaged area


epoxy filed and cleared for cooler mounting stud and nut


ta da done and ready for cooler and seals, shroud, alternator, distributor, carburetor ... whew!

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Hi Guys happy new year to all. What a truly inspirational amount of progress its been . We have been silent cause of the dam timing chain breaking in the car WITH the GEET in the back Still getting fixed.

Robin is sending us some amazing plugs the same as what Greg showed. These are really beautiful What a work of art
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Even Rob kupra would be impressed with these, we will use them in the groups RE loaded video with all new footage coming up. Adding all the new groups tests in there. We will document some wear like Greg with the hydroxy

These plugs like all the groups research being done is going to help build consumer awareness and demand, wait and see

[Xack]

Firestorm design

Ashtweth,
I am curious to know if we can get a guide how to make these plugs.

Thanks,
Xack

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Firestorm Data

Hi everyone,

I have just completed measuring the plugs for wear documentation purposes. I have created a baseline data table showing measurements taken at 7 different points on each plug. The plugs have been I.D.'d and assigned to specific engine cylinders.

Thank you Robin David for these expert replications!

Here is a pic of the plugs and the chart:

Peace,

Greg

here is a pic of the numbered plugs


this is the table showing 7 baseline dimension points for each plug

[Xack]

Firestorm Test

Greg,
Are you planning to inject steam or whater mist into your intake? What are you plans for testing?

Thanks,
Xack

[ashtweth]

Thanks a lot for positing that Greg . Yes Robin is an unbelievable machinist. @Xack sure ill try and find out as much detail as i can, we have not actually received the plugs yet, so Greg will be in the first week i think of testing before us. We will run it with the hydroxy on the car.

One observation given to me by Ravi,The extensions made on regular plugs look like copper! Copper WILL NOT work!! The only Alloys you can use for the center Semi-Sphere and the top extensions are to be made from High Chromium (25 to 30%) Fe-Cr-Al Alloys to withstand vaporization during sparking or even High Chromium Nickel Alloys will also work. So keep this in mind -End

Ash

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VexUs / Firestorm test

Greg,
Are you planning to inject steam or whater mist into your intake? What are you plans for testing?

Thanks,
Xack

Hi Xack,

I'm planning to pick up where I left off with my initial tests. I will be using the newer, better higher voltage oscillator / doubler and the VexUs circuit. I will again be ingesting steam from exhaust heat recovery. But now it will include the Firestorm replicas ... installed in the Bug today.

I'm rerouting the inlet air so I can include an air filter. Inlet air will be routed through the heater box on one side with the air filter IN the cabin on the floor behind the driver ... that's where the air filter will be. The steam will be generated in the heater box as a drip line onto sections of the hot exhaust pipe. The (normally) inlet to the heater box in the engine compartment will lead up to the carburetor inlet via very straight and simple ducting. Now I'll have a very non-circuitous and better insulated path for the air and steam, reducing the possibility of condensation on its way to the cylinder.

That's my plan. Peace,

Greg

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Firestorm materials

Thanks a lot for positing that Greg . Yes Robin is an unbelievable machinist. @Xack sure ill try and find out as much detail as i can, we have not actually received the plugs yet, so Greg will be in the first week i think of testing before us. We will run it with the hydroxy on the car.

One observation given to me by Ravi,The extensions made on regular plugs look like copper! Copper WILL NOT work!! The only Alloys you can use for the center Semi-Sphere and the top extensions are to be made from High Chromium (25 to 30%) Fe-Cr-Al Alloys to withstand vaporization during sparking or even High Chromium Nickel Alloys will also work. So keep this in mind -End

Ash

Hi Ash,

Since Robin sent me 5 plugs so I have one on the test bench. I did a little scraping and they appear to indeed be copper. I figured they were coated or something.

I will proceed anyway because the important thing is the configuration. I will be running another 300 mile test and will keep an eye on them. I will be pulling #2 plug daily for measurements. If the configuration shows merit then it's only a matter of mm&t (manufacturing methods, materials and technology). We have a great place to continue here and thanks again Robin!

Peace,

Greg

[ashtweth]

Greg, man i wish i could keep up and be as vigorous as you, is it the tea?

Okay, i got an answer back from Robin, i think your circuit cause of the min amps will still do well.

"Hi Ash , The plugs are made of beryllium copper and the set I have in my van have several hundred miles on them with no apparent problems, but I am only running a MSD ignition. There is nothing like actually trying something to see what it will do, so it will be interesting to see if they hold up to the new plasma ignition. If not I can make them out of high chromium nickel. Robin David "

[Xack]

Thanks for the info

Greg, Ash,
Thanks for the information, I was wondering what kind of welding, technique, and also materials (Me, not being a spark plug expert). If I could get some made I would need to specify to the machine shop. Perhaps someone on this forum who has machine shop access can get some made to sell?

Xack

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Thanks for panaceauniversity.org

Ash,
I was looking for the latest information and postings for the Vexus Circuit as I'm going to replicate it on my old 85 Honda CRX.

I downloaded the Water%20Spark%20Plug.pdf from Panaceauniversity.org

Thanks for all your work Ash. It is a very extensive document and sumarizes the blog, technology and gives those who contribute the credit they deserve. It's also quite nice for experiment duplication. Exactly what I need.

Xack