Water Sparkplug

[Slovenia]

Automotive Plasma-Arc Ignition System / Patent US 5568801

I found this patent very interesting indeed.

John Paterson 1996
US 5568801
Plasma-Arc Ignition System (Automotive Application)

[Slovenia]

Rickoff Thank You!!

Hello folks,

I was just over at the waterfuel1978 group site, and noticed that a new message and file had been posted by s1r9a9m9. As files seem to be disappearing at that site, about as quickly as they are posted, I immediately copied the file and posted it in the Public folder of my Windows Sky Drive.
I think that should be okay since waterfuel1978 is an open public forum, and I gave full credit to s1r9a9m9 as being the document author. I will show a link to the file between the dotted lines below, but first an explanation is in order.

When Gotoluc posted his s1r9a9m9 replication videos on YouTube, s1r9a9m9 watched the videos and made the following comment, "Nice set up. If you use a coil with two windings going through a main coil to boost the output spark up about 10 times what you have now, you will have a system almost like mine."

Today, sir9a9m9 posted a new message concerning this coil, along with a document explaining it further. He also said that he would be posting a video soon, showing how the coil is actually wound. Hopefully he will also share some additional details.
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Here is a link to the transformer file:
S1r9a9m9 transformer coil.rtf - Windows Live SkyDrive

UPDATE - S1r9a9m9 has now also posted a photo showing the silver cup that appeared in his YouTube video of the 18 hp engine running on water, and also shows what was inside the cup. You will see this photo, and a close-up of the photo, plus a new pdf file in which s1r9a9m9 explains the step-up transformer coil that was in the silver cup. See them here:
S1r step up transformer coil.jpg - Windows Live SkyDrive
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Note that s1r9a9m9 says the inverter isn't needed, and that in fact it can not even be used with the transformer setup. It looks like s1r is finally going to show us the missing pieces (or at least some of them), and that is great.

I hope this information spurs some additional experimentation and modification of the circuitry. I have been watching this thread with interest, and you have all been making excellent contributions to the effort. Keep up the great work!

Rickoff

Rickoff,

Thanks for making those files available to all of us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[blahblah]

First up apologies if these have been posted before...
I was not sure if this was the best thread to put this..feel free to remove or move as you see fit

Wipo PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG IGNITION CONTROL 2009 (NGK)

IGNITION DEVICE FOR PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG 2009 (NGK)

[Slovenia]

Thanks

First up apologies if these have been posted before...
I was not sure if this was the best thread to put this..feel free to remove or move as you see fit

Wipo PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG IGNITION CONTROL 2009 (NGK)

IGNITION DEVICE FOR PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG 2009 (NGK)

Thanks for posting those links. I hadn't seen that information before.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

This works very well

Please check out the spark plug in this patent which was made under a NASA contract and give your thoughts on it.
Thanks


Plasma igniter for internal combustion engine - Patent 4122816

This setup works very well and is of the type I have used in the past using an SCR as a switch for the current carrying voltage which also acts as a rectifier to DC.

The plug is a little more difficult to make in a size that would fit an engine, if the three electrode version was to be used. The two electrode version would be easier and a standard plug could be adapted, but the 30Kv cap bank might be a problem in this case.

Mike

[Guruji]

Ceramic treatment

Hi guys I asked this question and asking again for a response.
Does one have to make a ceramic treatment to the engine to run this circuit?
Thanks

[Jetijs]

That depends on what else you are doing. If you just need a better combustion of the gasoline, no such treatment is needed. Even if you use steam injection along with the plasma spark, I doubt you would need such a treatment. If you ran your engine on pure hho or steam without any gasoline, then yes.

[Guruji]

treatment

That depends on what else you are doing. If you just need a better combustion of the gasoline, no such treatment is needed. Even if you use steam injection along with the plasma spark, I doubt you would need such a treatment. If you ran your engine on pure hho or steam without any gasoline, then yes.

Thanks Jetijs for response. Did you try to do this circuit on a car without a ceramic treatment?
I want to be sure cause if I would try this on my car do not do any damages to the engine
Thanks

[Jetijs]

Many have tried and no one has reported any damage so far except for an increased spark plug wear.

[grizli]

Hi all here again!

I used to follow this thread for some time. Now I came back and see aditional 40 pages.

I wonder if anyone can make summary of the best achievements from that VW BUG with plasma spark and water vapour, what were the best mileage increase achivemnts so far obtained here ?

Thanks

[Richie_asg1]

Can you guys with an existing set-up try burning an emulsion of vegetable oil in water - or sugar solution ?

If the theory of putting oil fires out with water holds true - you should get some impressive energy out of it.

[gmeast]

VW

Hi all here again!

I used to follow this thread for some time. Now I came back and see aditional 40 pages.

I wonder if anyone can make summary of the best achievements from that VW BUG with plasma spark and water vapour, what were the best mileage increase achivemnts so far obtained here ?

Thanks

Hi grizli,

My mileage increase with the stock carburetor and jets was about 10% over the manufacturer's published MPG or 31MPG to 34MPG. However I actually never got any more than 25MPG since I owned it. So that's 25MPG to 34MPG or 36%. But all of that was also with very hot (almost steam) vapor heated by exhaust heat. In the end I found that I could use JUST the Nickel Firestorms and no plasma circuit, just vapor because under compression pressures these plugs give you very close to plasma circuit performance ... but not quite.

Greg

Greg

[gotoluc]

Some maybe interested in this new water engine

Link to home page: Home

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The Atomic Water Engine -United States Patent US7685973

The Atomic Water Engine Patent

[Mad Scientist]

Been following this forum for over a year and planned to do some experimenting but got side tracked with other projects. However over the weekend I had the time to catch up on what has been going on lately. I note that it has been a roller-coaster ride with the Firestorm plugs, but it looks like there still might be a little “potential” left in them.

Aaron, gotoluc, Jetijs, gmeast, and others you have shown want can be accomplished with open source engineering and the sharing of information.
You guys are to be applauded for all the effort you have put forth.
I have had the privilege of working with armchair engineers and scientists, people who have all the theory down pat, and are willing to tell you exactly why something should or should not work. Yet they are unable to go into a shop and make anything work and if you gave them so much as a screwdriver they would probably hurt themselves.
So it is a real pleasure to find people who are willing to experiment and try things that the “experts” say are imposable.

The only negative thing I found was rosco1’s post where he claims to have an engine running on water. My first thought was wow this is great this is want everyone here would like to do. But alas he then goes on to say he does not want to describe how he is supposedly doing it.

Of course he is obviously within his rights to tell or not tell how it works. This though begs the question, why then go to an open source forum and tell all that he has found the answer to a problem but not say what that answer is? What is the point? Is it strictly to gloat??? Aside from that the only thing I see this going is to tell the “powers that be” to come and get me.

Anyway to the rest of you keep up the good work.