Water Sparkplug

[Jetijs]

Thanks Peter
It looks similar to the spark tests I did a while ago when I used the output from a neon sign transformer across the spark plug electrodes and then compared the spark with a HV cap attached in parallel of the gap. With the cap the sparks were much brighter and louder. Unfortunately at that time I did not try spraying water on those sparks. Here is that video:

YouTube - spark plug/capacitor test

Will test this out some more tomorrow

Also, I forgot to mention that when I used the cap circuit with the long spark, I made numerous discharges and at the last spark my rectifier fried. It might be that the HV arced between the relay contacts and hit the rectifier. So aditional protection would be advisable
Another thing, the big spark does not appear if your spark gap electrodes are dry, you have to spray some water on them, otherwise there will be no long arc
Thanks,
Jetijs

[smw1998a]

Hi Lee,

Great work. Did you use the old Luc circuit of only 1 cap, or the Aaron circuit with the booster cap? Thanks.

James

Hi James,
The scope shots are from the Water Sparkplug IV video which is still unfinished. The circuit is my own solid state circuit, based on Luc's circuit. I have used this circuit throughout.

Regards Lee...

[Aaron]

no diodes needed

Jetijs,

If you have booster caps in parallel with the plug, a spark gap can replace all the diodes. The hv from secondary jumps gap, then jumps plug gap and the booster caps can discharge through both gaps...no diodes needed at all.

[peteroks]

HI just like to express my thanks for whats going on here and encourage all to push ahead.Also I have managed to build a working circuit based on 80% of the cap70 design- i removed the pick up [magneto] and just switch it manually-The best part in that design is no diodes were used ,So it is instead based on 3 differant capacitor setups.Basically 1 cap in the hv circuit, a bank of caps in the lv circuit and some hv caps to join the 2 circuits together ,the hv circuit jumps the gap to join the primary to the secondary and the bank of caps in the lv creates the big bang, works every time .Next step is to build the switching unit [without using semiconductors or other sensitive electronic parts ]TO many guys are blowing apart there inverters ,diodes etc.---- Peter

[FuzzyTomCat]

Hi folks,

The following video link is from an experiment done at Berlin Humbolt University's Berlin Institute for Plasmaphysics by Dr. Gerd Fussmann. The video was shot in the lab using a high speed video camera.

Video - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten


Best to all,

Rick

Hey Rick,

Here is a U Tube video 4:15 min. of the same experiment but it's someone else, looks like the same results.

YouTube - Water Arc Acceleration Plasma Ignition - HHO Hydrogen Cell

Glen

[Gre]

You guys might find this interesting:
YouTube - Quantum Electrodynamic Vacuum Energy Converter

[vzon17]

Reed switches

Hi,
I did a research on reed switches and found out that a typical reed switch has a dielectric strength between contacts of about 300V. This is why my reed does self trigger at voltages higher than 300V. There are reed switches that with a dielectric strength between contacts of 500v or even 1000V. So I will have to find one of those
Thanks!

I found these real nice reed switches, bought some also. these can handle 5 amps at 250 volts.

Reed Relays

[gotoluc]

@everyone,

Sorry to say but the light ball Anomaly that I found ended up being an artifact made by the video camera I used.

I removed the 2 Youtube videos relating to the study of the effect and I also edited out information referring to this effect in my postst since I do not want future readers to read information just to find in the end that it's not correct.

Sorry for the camera glitch.

Luc

[gmeast]

Cap replaces diode

HI just like to express my thanks for whats going on here and encourage all to push ahead.Also I have managed to build a working circuit based on 80% of the cap70 design- i removed the pick up [magneto] and just switch it manually-The best part in that design is no diodes were used ,So it is instead based on 3 differant capacitor setups.Basically 1 cap in the hv circuit, a bank of caps in the lv circuit and some hv caps to join the 2 circuits together ,the hv circuit jumps the gap to join the primary to the secondary and the bank of caps in the lv creates the big bang, works every time .Next step is to build the switching unit [without using semiconductors or other sensitive electronic parts ]TO many guys are blowing apart there inverters ,diodes etc.---- Peter

Thanks for posting this valuable information. If anybody followed the explanation well enough to generate a simple schematic, that would be great. I have this setup you saw in the video and I'd like to try the 'cap' arrangement with it. Fantastic!

Greg

[Ahchoooo]

OK, a mystery solved for now, at least for me. All my previous tests using Aaron's circuit showed excessive heat at the spark plug. Then I read Greg's test report and watched his video, and he reported that his spark plug was not hot after running. That really got me wondering what was going on. Then it dawned on me that Greg was using Luc's old circuit (sorry, Luc ) while I was using Aaron's circuit. Sure enough, I changed my circuit to Luc's, and my spark plug also remains not hot after running for 15 minutes. So it seems that Luc's circuit uses much lower current, hence the colder plug. I was using one capacitor of 47uF (rated 400V), and drove it to about 210V to have the plasma effect. The current draw was low enough to have continuous firing even at 9Hz.

So it seems that the secret lies in HV and low current, as the video by sirHoax posted by Glen shows.

However, I must also add that the plasma spark using Luc's circuit does not seem to be as strong as Aaron's circuit.

James

[Kinetix]

Hi all.
Aaron, the schematic modified can't work, because:
- diode BA159 could not deal with the HV
- C2 could not charge...
Anyway, nice "surgery"!

Jetijs, I have removed the resistors from that string of diodes today, and did some tests. Same results. Connected to the secondary of the ignition coil, C2 discharges slowly through that coil, and does not fire.
Maybe I need a second transistor to connect C2 to the spark plug only when C1 fires, and in synchronous mode with it.
Thank you very much, guys!

[rmitoday]

Hi all
Today I tried out this circuit on my generator engine:



It did work, but not as good as I hoped. The RPM's were about 2000-2500 and they were not constant. The engine choked a lot as if there were many missed sparks. I think that this is because of the solid state relay as it can not handle high frequencies. Then I attached the stock ignition again and everything run just fine and smooth. I found some reed relays on a local store web page, will buy these tomorrow. The datasheet of these reed relays says that the reed switch contacts of these relays can handle up to 500V, they should work fine.

Jetijs may I ask you a question? What is value of resistor that connected with SSR ouput pin. I have a SSR 40A 240 VAC HSF15. Is it same type of yours? Why don't we use SSR to discharge cap directly instead of SCR?

[Aaron]

supply power

Kinetix,

You of course need to supply power to the c2 to charge it. I have done it using the same power supply on the front and have done it with separate power supply.

[gmeast]

Combustion

Hi all,

I have posted another video showing a closeup of my plug firing. The setup is the original (diode) Gotoluc - Peter Lindemann as my original video. My digital camera does not have a manual focus so I had to illuminate the scene slightly so it would stay focused (auto focus-yuck!). I'm sure it would have been more dramatic in the dark.

You can actually see an occasional finger of flame emanating from the plug in the last half of the video. The plug remained COLD of course.

The link is:
YouTube - water on fire

Enjoy. Peace,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Hi all.
Aaron, the schematic modified can't work, because:
- diode BA159 could not deal with the HV
- C2 could not charge...
Anyway, nice "surgery"!

Jetijs, I have removed the resistors from that string of diodes today, and did some tests. Same results. Connected to the secondary of the ignition coil, C2 discharges slowly through that coil, and does not fire.
Maybe I need a second transistor to connect C2 to the spark plug only when C1 fires, and in synchronous mode with it.
Thank you very much, guys!

Hi Kinetix,

I have had a few strings of diodes go bad over the past month. I have the best result now with 6 to 7 1N5408 in series.

Try it with new diodes!.., it has solved diode problems for me to just get new ones.

Luc