Water Sparkplug

[gmeast]

We've missed your commentaries!

Jetijs,

In relation to spark frequencies needed to run your generator, I don't understand the need for these extremely high frequency tests. As I understand it, for your generator to produce 50hz AC power, it only needs to turn at 3000 RPM. Is this correct? For those here in the States, the generators will want to run at 3600 RPM to produce 60hz AC power.


Peter

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

[xpskid]

Hi Timm,

I'm scared to try it.

Greg

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

[xpskid]

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

It's great to see Peter still interested in the work of this forum
I haven't seen much from Aaron lately, hope all is well .

Enjoying every minute of this,

Timm

[gmeast]

keeping the power connected

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

Hi Timm,

I understand. But if you calculate for a 4-stroke cycle engine the number of cycles per second for, say a six cylinder engine, it becomes apparent that the the Hz output from the inverter reaches synch with the Hz of the ignition and you can start trying to charge the cap in a trough. I think this begins to happen at about 3333 RPM for 60 Hz and six cylinders. One option to overcome this is to use a higher freq. inverter. I have decided to keep the charge switch and add a storage cap so that I have, in essence, a DC power supply. To do this I had to also swap out the charge Triac for a Power Mosfet. With this mod, supply frequency is not a problem. (the Triac had to go because it won't shut off ... only at zero crossing)

I also discovered that I can easily interface with the standard points via a modification and create SPDT triggering for both charge and discharge if I exchange the discharge Triac with another Mosfet.

But for the charge side, you can see the mods in the diagram below.

Peace,

Greg

[Aaron]

hi Timm

It's great to see Peter still interested in the work of this forum
I haven't seen much from Aaron lately, hope all is well .

Enjoying every minute of this,

Timm

Hi Timm,

All is well and I watch this thread carefully. I'm amazed at how much progress everyone is making in such a short period of time. One thing I have in mind is to continually simplify-simplify-simplify.

[xpskid]

[QUOTE=gmeast;29896]Hi Timm,

I understand. But if you calculate for a 4-stroke cycle engine the number of cycles per second for, say a six cylinder engine, it becomes apparent that the the Hz output from the inverter reaches synch with the Hz of the ignition and you can start trying to charge the cap in a trough. I think this begins to happen at about 3333 RPM for 60 Hz and six cylinders. One option to overcome this is to use a higher freq. inverter. I have decided to keep the charge switch and add a storage cap so that I have, in essence, a DC power supply. To do this I had to also swap out the charge Triac for a Power Mosfet. With this mod, supply frequency is not a problem. (the Triac had to go because it won't shut off ... only at zero crossing)

I also discovered that I can easily interface with the standard points via a modification and create SPDT triggering for both charge and discharge if I exchange the discharge Triac with another Mosfet.

But for the charge side, you can see the mods in the diagram below.

Peace,

Greg


Greg,

Thanks for your patience with my questions ! Someday, I'll buy you one of these -->

Ok... I'm ordering and building the V6 set-up with mosfet and storage cap.
I'll pull my distributor and mount for a bench test. I'd be interested in your points modification when you have time to share.

Regards,

Timm

[gmeast]

Parts list

Hi Timm,

All is well and I watch this thread carefully. I'm amazed at how much progress everyone is making in such a short period of time. One thing I have in mind is to continually simplify-simplify-simplify.

Hi Aaron,

Nice to hear from you. Did you see my parts list? ... not much there. Did you see my 'spark' video? That was a surprise to me. I'm installing in my '64 VW Bug now. Will be on plasma ignition in a couple of days.

Best,

Greg

[gotoluc]

OK, let’s start! I am about Jetijs scheme. It’s mistake, but genius!!! Little explanation: Jetijs make some feedback(I speak with him some minutes ago), but he don’t understand at first. Let’s look at picture! (Figure1) Strange is that: he is not made spark do an ordinary job, but if we take a closer look we see this (Figure2) spark recharges/ discharges through primary inductance. And that is our feedback. If we start look to next... we see (figure3) diodes in forward/ backward direction and circuit of voltage multiplier. It’s no ordinary- diodes (15 of them) are making circuit good conduct to one direction, but to other it is VERY BIG RESISTANCE!!! You see??? And after all voltage multiplier make ONE big EFFECT!!! This circuit makes the current go FORWARD and BACKWARD!!! It’s the answer! In start moment capacitors (voltage multiplier) are empty, but after start period current (going forward/ backward) make capacitors full, and Voltage are rising and RPM go high!!! But- we need understand: capacitors must be good quality (paper/oil, or other- no electrolyte!). Be happy!

Hello Ansis Freimanis,

please do more research and tests with Jetijs to better understand this effect. It is like feedback. Very interesting and important effect I think.

Thank you for your post.

Luc

[Peter Lindemann]

Thanks!

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

Greg,

Thanks for the kind remarks. Your contributions to this thread have also been fantastic and I look forward to seeing your '64 VW running on its 21st Century ignition system soon!

My recent absence in these threads is related to being very busy on a number of other projects. Actually, being self employed, I find the fickle finger of fate frequently foments fluctuations of financial fortune causing me to focus fiercely on future fundamentals.

Its nice to be missed, though.

Keep up the great work!

Peter

[gmeast]

... you made me try it ...

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

Hi Timm,

I know this was from earlier. But you challenged me to try leaving the power on. My power into the FWB is protected by 1A glass fuse. So I decided it was safe to try that. The 1A fuse was used because it is a safe current and can stand up to the initial inrush of current into the 'new' 470uf storage cap on initial fire-up of the circuit. It only takes .1A of current to run it. Maybe .4A on a 4 cyl. engine. Anyway, I left the power on on the charge Mosfet and the fuse blew, coating the inside of the glass casing so nice and evenly.

But the way(s) I have addressed triggering the switches is looking like just a magnetic rotor and two mag pick ups found on off the shelf electronic ign. conversion kits for VWs. I am working to finalize this so you and others don't need to buy parts that won't be used.

Best to you,

Greg

[jack]

pulstar spar plug

Hi Every One,
I Am New To This So Please Give Me A Little Patience. I Have Really Enjoyed All The Ideas. I Have Put A Hydrogen Generator In A 2001 Ford Ranger W/4.0 Liter Engine. My Mileage Has Gone From 17.5 To 23,
It Pulls 10 Amps. The Next Two Ways I'am Trying To Do Is O2 Sensors And Changing Spark Plugs.
If Changing To Pulstar Plugs. And Putting Non Foulers On O2 Sensors While Useing Hho Generator, Can Anyone Give Me An Idea On Heat Temp And Should Milage Go Any Higher.

Jack:

[gmeast]

plasma CDI progress

Hi all,

I'd just like to post my progress. I have sent away for some very slick magnetic switches that are meant for VW ignition conversion. The kit has a rotor with some magnets on it and and this switch. I'll need one rotor and two of these switches to form a SPDT switch in the distributor housing. For now I'm making the stock distributor do this. The photos below show the stock distributor/points and some modified ignition parts. The modified one is not finished but I'll explain my plans. I posted both stock and modified for comparison.

The stock points breaker arm (riding on the cam lobes) will be the common pole of the SPDT switch. Each of the phenolic blocks will have a springy phosphor-bronze leaf contact and each with separate wires leading out of the housing ... including the common wire ... no condenser. So the common will contact one leaf contact or the other ... not both. Timing and vacuum advance stay intact. That's it for what it takes to run the Plasma CDI design I'm building.

Peace,

Greg

[Wilber]

HHO and Water spark

Hi everyone
just posting what happened with HHO and water spark, The setup is a 6 hp engine with no waste spark, timing about 5 deg ATDC being spun at about 750 rpm feed 1ltr per minute HHO and water mist, nexus circuit run off engines points (runs well on gas with increase of rpm when spark is turned on) but it did not fire at all . any suggestions would be welcome
Will

[broli]

Hi everyone
just posting what happened with HHO and water spark, The setup is a 6 hp engine with no waste spark, timing about 5 deg ATDC being spun at about 750 rpm feed 1ltr per minute HHO and water mist, nexus circuit run off engines points (runs well on gas with increase of rpm when spark is turned on) but it did not fire at all . any suggestions would be welcome
Will

Double check whether all your components and connections are still in tact. That's all I can suggest.

[revizal]

Hi everyone
just posting what happened with HHO and water spark, The setup is a 6 hp engine with no waste spark, timing about 5 deg ATDC being spun at about 750 rpm feed 1ltr per minute HHO and water mist, nexus circuit run off engines points (runs well on gas with increase of rpm when spark is turned on) but it did not fire at all . any suggestions would be welcome
Will

May be for the first time you need to run the engine in hybrid mode. Earlier, runs with just a little amount of gasoline. After that, introduce water mist and HHO to the running engine. If it runs OK, let it go on HHO and water injection. That's inspire us to follow yours.