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  • Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi Jetijs,

    Well, once I discovered that the original, isolated water spark plug circuit was inherently stable for multiple plugs (no cross fire), I got obsessed with the distributor issue. So I went ahead and solved the 'charge, discharge" switching challenge for a distributor and built the dual hall sensor distributor. I intend to only run my VW on the circuit, make a quick video, restore the VW and get back to running the generator on emulsion, geet-type, WATER ... same circuit and hardware. I can't do any science with the VW. I'll be back on the generator in about a week or so.

    Sincerely,

    Greg
    Great stuff Greg it will be great to have someone as dedicated as you working on the geet emulsion.

    Thank you and everyone for all this great sharing

    Luc

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    • Originally posted by gmeast View Post
      Hi Jetijs,

      Well, once I discovered that the original, isolated water spark plug circuit was inherently stable for multiple plugs (no cross fire), I got obsessed with the distributor issue. So I went ahead and solved the 'charge, discharge" switching challenge for a distributor and built the dual hall sensor distributor. I intend to only run my VW on the circuit, make a quick video, restore the VW and get back to running the generator on emulsion, geet-type, WATER ... same circuit and hardware. I can't do any science with the VW. I'll be back on the generator in about a week or so.

      Sincerely,

      Greg
      Greg, (all)

      The great benefit to this forum is the ability to share and assist each other.
      Although I've replicated Aaron's and Peter's video, and also your Triac schematic, I lack the electronics knowledge to move the schematic my own direction. However since you've moved some of us down the road to experimenting with multi-cylinder vehicles, we can continue while you advance other areas. We'll now have people experimenting with the plasma spark in several different applications: Gensets, 4-cylinders, 6-cylinders, Geets, HHO, etc. Some (like yourself) are the enablers for some of the rest of us. BUT, as a collective, the total knowledge base will grow.

      Timm

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      • Originally posted by gmeast View Post
        I can't do any science with the VW.
        You should at least do some testing, put an aluminum can next
        to the plug and hho combo to see what happens. Red hot?

        Red-hot disintegrating piston dust tears the entire engine
        up within seconds, crumbles and gets into the crank and cam
        bearings, everthing. Just the timing being off by a notch can
        do this (pre-ignition).

        sM

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        • Originally posted by xpskid View Post
          Greg, (all)

          The great benefit to this forum is the ability to share and assist each other.
          Although I've replicated Aaron's and Peter's video, and also your Triac schematic, I lack the electronics knowledge to move the schematic my own direction. However since you've moved some of us down the road to experimenting with multi-cylinder vehicles, we can continue while you advance other areas. We'll now have people experimenting with the plasma spark in several different applications: Gensets, 4-cylinders, 6-cylinders, Geets, HHO, etc. Some (like yourself) are the enablers for some of the rest of us. BUT, as a collective, the total knowledge base will grow.

          Timm
          Hi Timm,

          I'm committed to the water spark plug concept. I started on the generator after I had a reasonable working understanding of the concept and watching Peter Lindemann's video of gotoluc's original circuit.

          The following video is one in the earliest series where it all started:
          YouTube - Ganga Shakti - Water Power (updated circuit)

          The experimenter is known as "gotoluc" both in this forum and in Free Energy @ overunity.com and the thread there is:
          URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

          Aaron brought it everyone's attention and presented the circuit as simplified for everyone's benefit ... thanks Aaron !

          It is the perfection of this technology that will make the GEET emulsion, Hydroxy and other water-as-fuel technologies successful ... my opinion.

          See you here for sure,

          Greg

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          • now you got me scared!

            Originally posted by sirmikey1 View Post
            You should at least do some testing, put an aluminum can next
            to the plug and hho combo to see what happens. Red hot?

            Red-hot disintegrating piston dust tears the entire engine
            up within seconds, crumbles and gets into the crank and cam
            bearings, everthing. Just the timing being off by a notch can
            do this (pre-ignition).

            sM
            Hi sM,

            Well, now I'm going to exchange my 47uf CDI cap for a 12.5uf. It makes only a teenie weenie but still bright white plasma spark. I'm not going to run the VW on any Hydroxy, or emulsions. I'm just going to run it to see the difference between the regular CDI spark peformance vs the plasma spark ... you know, that neck snapping acceleration ... yeah right.

            I seriously appreciate you warning,

            Greg

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            • Just my opinion:
              This whole plasma spark idea needs to shift towards
              lazer dissociation of water. Even then, there will be
              the same precautions.

              http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...injection.html

              SM

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              • Laser

                Originally posted by sirmikey1 View Post
                Just my opinion:
                This whole plasma spark idea needs to shift towards
                lazer dissociation of water. Even then, there will be
                the same precautions.

                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...injection.html

                SM
                OOOH! I love 'laser'. All I know about laser is it just academic physics, nothing practical. If you had seen me during some phases of the current project you would have said that about me and electricity!

                Peace,

                Greg

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                • Laser Weapon:
                  YouTube - MTHEL - Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser
                  Last edited by sirmikey1; 09-26-2008, 06:36 PM.

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                  • Plug longevity.

                    I am burning up plugs. At .20A wall AC after about 4000 firings my plugs show a lot of wear. Is everyone having this problem? Any suggestions on increasing lifespan of plugs?

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                    • Waste spark.

                      The use of a relay toggle circuit or other flip-flop could solve the waste spark.

                      Circuits Page 9
                      Last edited by CPU3rother; 09-26-2008, 08:27 PM. Reason: URL added

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                      • media attention

                        Originally posted by Shamus View Post
                        Good luck with that Kiwi, I sincerely wish you luck but I have serious doubts that any mainstream news source will take such news seriously (as for why, well, that's a fairly involved subject ). I think you'll have much better success using underground/alternative backchannels for propagating this information.

                        If you look at the GEET youtube video that Ash posted (in the GEET thread) you'll see a clip of Paul Pantone on a local news broadcast. They showed his technology and showed it working but the way the newscaster presented it (I can't remember if she rolled her eyes but it was heavily implied in her delivery) was in such a way as to subtly discredit it. The not so subtle way of discrediting it was in the little caption attached to the bottom corner of the video feed that said "Crazy Inventions".

                        Again, good luck with the publicity, but be sure to keep your eyes open.

                        I fully agree with you on this one. I have already experienced a massive amount of negative energy from a group of people who are normally extremely open minded when I brought up the topic. I found their feedback quite useful for shaping the direction of the blog though. The biggest issue people had was simply they assumed I was talking about a perpetual mobile when as far as I know no one has claimed over unity for this circuit yet. However as soon as they heard water as fuel the blinders were on and they were off on various tangents.

                        Part of my aim with the blog is to gather the info discussed and shared in the community and attempt to make it palatable to a wider audience. If I take on the mainstream media I would certainly not be going to Fox news for the first press release. Start at the roots and take it from there. However on saying that I have quite some experience with press releases and getting media coverage. So you never know...

                        @jetjis. Is there any reason you have disabled embedding with your latest video? I was intending to use it on the blog...



                        Cheers.

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                        • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                          the Spark video we are making can be used in the underground circles Shamus mentioned too , in fact we get interviewed on Truth news this friday, will mention all the gang
                          Cool. Let us know if they post the article online.

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                          • final bench test - distributed spark plasma CDI

                            Hi everyone,

                            I have posted a short video showing the final bench testing and demo of the original Gotoluc-Lindemann isolated water spark plug circuit configured for a 4-cylinder engine.

                            The hardware is ready for installation in a vehicle and I'll be placing it in my '64 VW Bug. I hope you enjoy the video.

                            The video is located at:
                            YouTube - final bench test - distributed plasma CDI

                            Peace,

                            Greg

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                            • Guys, shot the video with all the groups research and themes, added all the plasma research that's done already which is neglected and where we want to go with this plus support for the open source engineers. We were just about to fire up the 5.5HP generator, with a smack and a nexus plasma ignition, and guess what?

                              The con rod just snapped!! (with out the plasma and booster connected)BANG!! BOOM CRASH!! cheap Chinese aluminum we had run this on 100% hydroxy before but embrittlement cannot get into the con rod, SO DOH! we couldn't fire it up, so we are now going to Smack the CAR with the plasma ignition should be done next week. Will uses Alex's circuit (groundloops).
                              Beware of cheap Chinese gensets !! It blew with out the plasma spark or hydroxy, just on its own, a con rod!!

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                              • Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
                                The use of a relay toggle circuit or other flip-flop could solve the waste spark.

                                Circuits Page 9
                                I've thought about that off and on for weeks and have always come to the same conclusion "when I go to start the motor, how do I know if the next spark plug fire is the waste spark or power spark"?

                                Unless there is some signal coming from the motor, to tell the circuit what position it's in, there's a 50/50 chance it will be skipping the wrong spark.

                                DonL
                                Don

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