Water Sparkplug

[gotoluc]

Please don't pack it in. The information you and others have contributed has made me and, I'm sure many others, open the mind up and truly believe that using water as a fuel can be done. I have very little background in electronics or electricty, so a lot of the terms and the use of such is beyond me. I just look around the web to find an answer. I have had success with building the design by you (Luc) and am sharing it with friends. I have enjoyed all of your vids and have learned quite a bit, and had fun doing this. So please don't think all of you hard work is for naught. You keep doing what you are doing and I and others will keep learning.
Michael

Thanks michaelpaul for sharing the information with your friends. It is nice to hear that it is moving around ...this is most important for successful development .

Keep moving and testing and I'll keep showing what I find.

Luc

[Jetijs]

Ok, I tried the 50w 1kOhm reistors instead of the bulb. In order to replace one 100w incandescent light bulb I need a resistor value that is calculated the following way - 220v*220v/100w=484Ohms. On order not to overheat the resistors I used two 1K resistors in parallel. That makes one 500Ohm 100W resistor. But when I replaced the bulb with the resistor array, the sparks seemed somehow less intense and there is still the problem with reed switch self triggering. Just for fun I tried to use a neon bulb instead of the reed switch, the sparks fire at about 50hz (as far as I can tell without any measurements)
I guess that I will need to change the circuit so I can trigger the reed switch on the 12v side. Also I will stick to light bulbs as current limiter.
Thanks!

[gotoluc]

Luc,

I've done comparisons between voltage/capacitance and over a certain point, I can't tell a difference from the sound and light.

330uf at 500v gives very impressive results with or without water. For now, I'm thinking this is about the limit that I need to go to gradually. Will do some more testing soon and will post.

There are still some videos from a few weeks ago that I'll post when I have time.

Hi Aaron,

thanks for your reply. Do you know or anyone else here if it's correct that a capacitor charged to twice the voltage but with half the uf value will have twice the energy output of a capacitor charged to half the voltage but twice the uf value?

I would like to know this before spending more time testing something that science already knows to be correct.

Just trying not to waste time on re-inventing the wheel.

Luc

[tstorey]

Luc,

Your vids are GREAT. Your method is perfect for non engineers like me. Your goal of improvement through testing is the only way to do it. When something works it is great, but, when something does NOT work it is ALSO great. Something is learned from every action and you are an example to us all.


Best,

T

[Jetijs]

Luc, look at this topic:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=2450
It might answer your question

[Peter Lindemann]

Correct

Hi Aaron,

thanks for your reply. Do you know or anyone else here if it's correct that a capacitor charged to twice the voltage but with half the uf value will have twice the energy output of a capacitor charged to half the voltage but twice the uf value?

I would like to know this before spending more time testing something that science already knows to be correct.

Just trying not to waste time on re-inventing the wheel.

Luc

Luc,

Yes, it is true. The formula for energy stored in a capacitor is:

E=(.5) x C x V^2 Energy in Joules is equal to one half times Capacitance (measured in FARADS) times Voltage SQUARED.

Peter

[gotoluc]

Thanks tstorey for your reply

@everyone,

For those of you who looked at my last video: YouTube - Capacitance Vs. Voltage and Diode Test 1 and are maybe wondering why the hell is Luc showing the frames that have a green ball of light. Well below are frame from Jimmy Sabori's Papp Engine Video. Jimmy Sabori use to work with Papp and later worked on his own and further developed the engine. He discovered this Green Ball of Light only after viewing his video frame by frame. You will find his tests at the 49 minute mark in his video.

Video Link: Jimmy Sabori's Papp Engine Video

I believe our effect could be similar to to his. So I've been looking for a green ball of light on my videos ever since I first found this circuit.

Notice in the frames I took from Jimmy Sabori's video, that the Green light anomaly happens away from the spark event.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Luc,

Yes, it is true. The formula for energy stored in a capacitor is:

E=(.5) x C x V^2 Energy in Joules is equal to one half times Capacitance (measured in FARADS) times Voltage SQUARED.

Peter

Thanks Peter for your confirmation. I will take down or edit that video since the Capacitor information will be misleading to others that may not know or understand the correct formula as I also did not understand it.

@everyone, I found an online Capacitor Joule calculator if anyone is interested in saving it to your Favorites for when needed.

Calculator Link: Electronics 2000 | Capacitor Charge / Energy Calculator

Thanks for all your input.

Luc

[revizal]

Hi all,

Can someone please direct me to the video showing a motorcycle engine being used to domonstrate the water sparkplug principle? The view is from overhead and the engine is being kick started and a flashing incandescent light bulb is visible.

Thanks in advance, and peace,

Greg

You can go to my video:
YouTube - Plasma Water Ignition-5 (on engine timing)
YouTube - Engine running on Plasma Ignition-1

or capacitor70's video:
YouTube - Engine Running on Water
YouTube - Plasma Spark Plug Test on Engine and water

Thanks for your interest.

Revizal

[gmeast]

Endothermic

Hi group,

I've just completed the first steps in my adventure with Water Sparkplug technology. I apologize for not yet knowing who's who nor knowing who's done what but here goes anyway.

I've constructed a replication of Peter Lindemann's full isolation model. As I was watching my spark plug 'snap' along I noticed the straps I have fitted to the spark plug were sweating! Water was condensing on the straps! I touched them and the whole thing was very COLD. It's very humid here right now. OMG! This is the most incredible effect I've ever witnessed.

This means that this effect is catalyzing the absorption of energy from an outside source ... or something like that anyway. I'll report more and send pictures once I do more and once I find a way to properly instrument and document the effect.

Peace to all,

Greg

[gmeast]

Pardon me for being stupid!

Well EXCUSE ME! But some things are NOT explained clearly. I just love to be scolded!

Hi Greg,

thanks for your interest . Did you read the first posts of this topic? Your question seems to show you have not read enough.

You can use 120vac or 220vac through a full bridge rectifier to charge the capacitor which is then discharged to a automotive coil using a automotive relay activated by 12vdc to switch between charging the cap from bridge to discharging the cap to coil.

Please do read the posts if you have more questions since the information needed to replicate is there.

Luc

[billb0169]

EMI Shielding

Hi Everyone,

For those that are experiencing difficulties with test equipment/electronics etc.. when the plasma discharging, you may want to look at using some electro magnetic interference (EMI) shielding. I used these materials extensively several years back when I was working with FA/18 jets in the Marines. It works quite well. There are plenty of places that sell the stuff but I'm not sure if the pricing is affordable or not.

Cheers!

Bill

[gotoluc]

@everyone,

I have deleted the Capacitor size vs. Voltage and Diode test video since the capacitor comparison method was not correct and replaced it with this new one.

I am also happy to inform you all that there still is a very noticeable difference in spark sound and size when voltage is increased instead of the cap uf size. The tests are done at 2 different voltage but both at 1 Joule capacitor energy and you can see the difference.

Please let me know what you all think of this.

New video: YouTube - Capacitance Vs. Voltage and Diode Test 1

Luc

[Ahchoooo]

which circuit did you use?

Hello All,
I have attached two scope shots regarding the above observations.

All The Best Lee...

Hi Lee,

Great work. Did you use the old Luc circuit of only 1 cap, or the Aaron circuit with the booster cap? Thanks.

James

[Ahchoooo]

@everyone,

I have deleted the Capacitor size vs. Voltage and Diode test video since the capacitor comparison method was not correct and replaced it with this new one.

I am also happy to inform you all that there still is a very noticeable difference in spark sound, size and green light anomaly when voltage is increased instead of the cap uf size. The tests are done at 2 different voltage but both at 1 Joule capacitor energy and you can still see the difference.

Please let me know what you all think of this.

New video: YouTube - Capacitance Vs. Voltage and Diode Test 1
Luc

Hi Luc,

Great work! Excellent comparison. Did you use your old circuit with only one cap, or Aaron's circuit with 2 caps? And if you used your old circuit, how did you protect your 6 diodes from being fried, because I thought the HV out from the coil would be close to 100KV? (1KV x 100)

James