Water Sparkplug

[jstadwater]

Booster caps.............

Hey Greg,

Thanks for that reply, I think I have a pretty good handle on the circuit now. The fact that it's switched using the negative instead of positive, works out even better for me. I plan to re-configure a distributor to trigger the circuit with a 12V negative signal.......PERFECT. As for the "backside boosters", you REALLY have not seen the "effect" at it's full potential until you hook up a booster cap on the back side. As I said, this is not my design. I can only wish I came up with it, and thank Aaron REPEATEDLY for sharing it. With your triac setup, you should be able to hook up an extra single triac to charge the booster cap, the discharge will take care of itself when the coil fires to the plug. You can trigger it to charge the booster cap the same time the front triac charges it's cap. Since your circuits are well isolated you should be fine using the same power supply to charge both caps instantaneously. I have had success with only one inverter using this setup. I did get some feedback and fried one inverter, but I did not know how to isolate the circuits at that time. You may want to try a separate power supply first, just till you can verify everything is cool. I'm still new with all this electronic stuff. The schematic you want to see is on page 8 of this thread, Aaron also uploaded a video of this a few posts below the schematic. You are going to LOVE this, trust me! I am now going to order a few triacs and caps and diodes, to further enhance my circuitry. You MUST try the booster cap setup, the effect is trully ASTOUNDING!!! Use the same high V microwave diodes for the "booster cap" as you have from the coil's HV+ to LV+. You hook up the HV diodes from the coil's HV+ to the "booster cap" positive, and then ground the "booster cap" negative to the base of the sparkplug. And VIOLA!! The results had me doing backflips in the shop! Happy testing, please post your results once you try the "booster cap", I would like to see how well it works with the triac setup. Thanks, have a great day............................Mike

[gmeast]

mmmmm oops

hello,

i am not the builder of that,
i only found the link...

thanks.

It is a real pleasure to follow your's groups.

Hi,

Well thanks and it's STILL nice to see other "doers" in the forum. Tee Hee


Peace,

Greg

[broli]

I was curious whether someone was planning on selling circuit board kits for the people that lack any electronic/electricity skills and want to install it in their cars. This will really help the spreading of it a lot. Or is this still too soon?

[goldenequity]

Nexus circuit diagram

This is an attempt to diagram the Nexus circuit and a call for assistance.
from overunity.com forum...

I have made a cleaned up drawing of the circuit. I did not get the number of diodes used.
Also, in the car he used another string of diodes. Where to put them?
Can anybody that are better in understanding English than me take a look at the video and update
the drawing with the correct number of diodes and also where the second string
of diodes is attached?

Groundloop.

[vzon17]

Proposal for simplified spark plug circuit practical application

I am following with great interest this setup you guys are working on. THe ultimate idea behind it is to dump a capacitor through the spark plug gap upon the spark plug firing. So I have come up with this circuit as yet untested and the diode may the wrong way around but maybe. some might want to try it out.

The output of an ignition coil is basically a high frequency AC pulse, so it should go righ throughg a capacitor, so I put a 35,000 volt cap between distributor and spark plug. This allaws the highvoltage spark current to go through and fire the plug but at the same time will block the low voltage DC from the capacitor bank from going into the coil.

The capacitor bank consists of a three stage filter system. a largeu cap to maintain a steady supply of DC at 250 to 350 volts or however much you want. the first cap after the power supply is the storage. it fills the next cap up through a resistor and the next cap get filled through another resistor. the last cap goes through a high voltage diod and hooks to the spark plug. the cap next to the spark plug can get totally discharged when system fires, the next cap in towards the pover supply only gets partially discharged and the main storage cap stays pretty much full.

It will require some fiddleing around to find the correct values for the resistors. this type of setup was used back in the days of Tube amplifiers to smooth out a DC power supply.

So there you have it I have included a diagram to look at.
The idea behind this system is to work fast enough to run an engine with without requiring a giant DC power supply. so every time a spark plug fires a cap dumps its load through the spark plug and by the next time that spark plug is ready to fire again it will have a fully charged can to dump again.

this system would require at least one cap to dump into each each spark plug, possible two and one big supply cap they can all feed off of.

Any way this will get rid of all the relays and outher crap the original circuit has and take the ignition coil out of the look completely except to make a spark to fire the gap and then the capacitor bank taeks over and dumps its load through making the big bang.

This is all still theory as I have not set it up yet. I got my 35,000 volt caps already but still have to collect parts for the rest of the setup. so if anyone wants to try this even as a work bench setup hope you post your results. remember the High voltage diode may be the wrong way around on the diagram.

[gmeast]

new progress photo

Hi everyone,

Here is an update photo of the progress I'm attempting on my generator set adaptation of the water spark plug ... AKA plasma spark plug.

What's been added since my last update is the timing plate. As you can see I have added ample adjustment for the timing in the form of the three circular or arced slots. The timing plate will hold two diametrically opposed reed switches (for now). The driven gear (big one) has three threaded holes (visible) for mounting the rotor piece containing the magnet that will actuate the reed switches.

This set up can be adapted to work with any number of affectors and/or sensors ... optical, hall, cam & points, etc.

I love this forum and this project! Peace,

Greg

[gmeast]

Aaron's spark amplifier

Hey Greg,

Thanks for that reply, I think I have a pretty good handle on the circuit now. The fact that it's switched using the negative instead of positive, works out even better for me. I plan to re-configure a distributor to trigger the circuit with a 12V negative signal.......PERFECT. As for the "backside boosters", you REALLY have not seen the "effect" at it's full potential until you hook up a booster cap on the back side. As I said, this is not my design. I can only wish I came up with it, and thank Aaron REPEATEDLY for sharing it. With your triac setup, you should be able to hook up an extra single triac to charge the booster cap, the discharge will take care of itself when the coil fires to the plug. You can trigger it to charge the booster cap the same time the front triac charges it's cap. Since your circuits are well isolated you should be fine using the same power supply to charge both caps instantaneously. I have had success with only one inverter using this setup. I did get some feedback and fried one inverter, but I did not know how to isolate the circuits at that time. You may want to try a separate power supply first, just till you can verify everything is cool. I'm still new with all this electronic stuff. The schematic you want to see is on page 8 of this thread, Aaron also uploaded a video of this a few posts below the schematic. You are going to LOVE this, trust me! I am now going to order a few triacs and caps and diodes, to further enhance my circuitry. You MUST try the booster cap setup, the effect is trully ASTOUNDING!!! Use the same high V microwave diodes for the "booster cap" as you have from the coil's HV+ to LV+. You hook up the HV diodes from the coil's HV+ to the "booster cap" positive, and then ground the "booster cap" negative to the base of the sparkplug. And VIOLA!! The results had me doing backflips in the shop! Happy testing, please post your results once you try the "booster cap", I would like to see how well it works with the triac setup. Thanks, have a great day............................Mike

Hi,

I have looked at that sketch of Aaron's a hundred times and never actually saw what he was showing until I noticed the blue ink in his sketch. Different colors didn't work for me in preschool either. Now I see it. Thanks for persisting at bringing this to my attention. Nice work Aaron (a little belated but also before my time here).

Peace,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Here is the .pdf download link to the Nexus Plasma circuit used for the VW van running a plasma ignition setup(!) in the .wmv video posted by freepoint.
(Congrats ALSO to Luc.... YOU made this possible man! plasma generation w/ half amp!)

circuit
http://skyhero.com/Cozzco%20Plasma%20Arc%20Circuit.pdf

video
NexusPlasma01.wmv

nice find! freepoint..... is this YOUR setup???

Hi goldenequity and everyone,

this is great news once again... this demonstrates the power of sharing ... the more we do the more we receive (growth).

I had a feeling we could piggy back on the existing spark switching system I guess that's why I was in no rush to by SCR's and was trying to even use my relay on the test engine. I was really hoping someone was going to solve it soon.

We are not out of the woods yet. We must work together to create a complete circuit which will include a pulsed coil instead of an inefficient inverter. This video is my attempt to show a more efficient circuit than using an inverter and if I can do it it aint that difficult. YouTube - allcanadian circuit test 1

I have had a vision for a while of a single box most anyone could installed in a vehicle to create the plasma spark. If the vehicle is a 6 cylinder the box would have 6 holes on its side fitted with male tip plug connector so you unplug your existing ignition cable from the spark plug and plug it in the box which would also have the same amount of wire lead coming out to connect back to the plug. This box would also have a circuitry that would give one the ability to retard the timing just by turning a pot to which could also be mounted inside the cars on the dash board.

I hope this is not too high of a goal to reach. Seeing all the talent that is coming together I am faithful we will archive this. We can create a complete kits, circuit board, coil, components and all parts needed. That way anyone around the world could buy and build it or have someone build it for them and install. This would create work and income in every part of the World. This way everyone can make some income with it, since God knows there is allot of combustion engines out there.

all for your excellent research and development so far

Luc

[gmeast]

diode strings

This is an attempt to diagram the Nexus circuit and a call for assistance.
from overunity.com forum...

I have made a cleaned up drawing of the circuit. I did not get the number of diodes used.
Also, in the car he used another string of diodes. Where to put them?
Can anybody that are better in understanding English than me take a look at the video and update
the drawing with the correct number of diodes and also where the second string
of diodes is attached?

Groundloop.

Hi goldenequity,

In the PDF he says:

"To eliminate crossfire. I installed 7 diodes in series with each individual dipole feed wire."

And I think he means there is a diode string from each spark plug back to the junction of the cap and rectifier. This point might be considered a "common" of sorts.

This is what I was able to glean from the document.

Peace,

Greg

[gmeast]

Hi goldenequity and everyone,

this is great news once again... this demonstrates the power of sharing ... the more we do the more we receive (growth).

I had a feeling we could piggy back on the existing spark switching system I guess that's why I was in no rush to by SCR's and was trying to even use my relay on the test engine. I was really hoping someone was going to solve it soon.

We are not out of the woods yet. We must work together to create a complete circuit which will include a pulsed coil instead of an inefficient inverter. This video is my attempt to show a more efficient circuit than using an inverter and if I can do it it aint that difficult. YouTube - allcanadian circuit test 1

I have had a vision for a while of a single box most anyone could installed in a vehicle to create the plasma spark. If the vehicle is a 6 cylinder the box would have 6 holes on its side fitted with male tip plug connector so you unplug your existing ignition cable from the spark plug and plug it in the box which would also have the same amount of wire lead coming out to connect back to the plug. This box would also have a circuitry that would give one the ability to retard the timing just by turning a pot to which could also be mounted inside the cars on the dash board.
.................................................. .......
I hope this is not too high of a goal to reach. Seeing all the talent that is coming together I am faithful we will archive this. We can create a complete kits, circuit board, coil, components and all parts needed. That way anyone around the world could buy and build it or have someone build it for them and install. This would create work and income in every part of the World. This way everyone can make some income with it, since God knows there is allot of combustion engines out there.

all for your excellent research and development so far

Luc

Hi Luc,

I have had the same vision as you insofar as a kit goes. Yes we need to create a "pump" of some sort to create the higher VDC. This technology can come from CDI system design because they pump up battery 12VDC up to 300VDC for the CDI system(s). I am involved in solar energy and as such I am involved with inverters too. When an inverter is loaded to only a small percentage of its rating, its output can be very inefficient. At its rated load, efficiencies can be as high as 97% for modified sine wave inverters and 94% for pure sine wave inverters. So I believe that a much smaller inverter on the order of 240Watts would display more desirable power characteristics.

I will search my resources for efficient DC - DC converters for our work.

The allcanadian circuit is intriguing however. Thanks for sharing.

Peace,

Greg

[lapperl]

Nexus Plasma Arc Circuit

This is an attempt to diagram the Nexus circuit and a call for assistance.
from overunity.com forum...

I have made a cleaned up drawing of the circuit. I did not get the number of diodes used.
Also, in the car he used another string of diodes. Where to put them?
Can anybody that are better in understanding English than me take a look at the video and update
the drawing with the correct number of diodes and also where the second string
of diodes is attached?

Groundloop.

@Groundloop and everyone,

I am new to this forum but an avid watcher and would like to commend everyone on their great efforts.

I have edited Ground loops schematic with my representation of what Bill was saying in the video and the schematic he posted.

He stated that he has two banks of 60 1N5408 diodes in series, each at 3 amps 48kva. In parallel, he gets 6 amps. He stated that he feels he does not need two banks and he over engineered the circuit.

He calls the line coming out of the diode bank a "dipole wire". He runs 4 dipole wires to 4 banks of 7 diodes which he calls his "cross talk preventer". From each of these cross talk diode banks, he runs a wire to the top of each spark plug.

Like I stated previously, this is the way that I understand his circuit from watching his video several times and reviewing his schematic. If anyone feels that this is incorrect, please let me know. I am by no means an expert in this field and am open to advice and or criticism.

I am planning on replicating this circuit and will post my findings here.

LapperL

[goldenequity]

Welcome and Thank you


to the forum lapperl

This a great first post.... and this is EXACTLY what I'd hoped for...
Groundloop over at overunity.com will really enjoy your enhancement
of his diagram.

It, i believe, is an accurate rendition and extraction/translation of
what was pictured in the video, his description/dialogue on the vid, AND
his circuit .pdf ..... that took alot of work to interpret all of that.
Hopefully others will critique your work and make sure this is right.
thanks for being open ... thanks for being responsive.

I also took the liberty of emailing the author of the video and .pdf circuit with your diagram for confirmation or correction.
I will keep you posted if/when I hear back.

well done and will look forward to future posts as you progress in your
replications and variations.

ps.... I will repost to the overunity.com thread for all to see if that's ok?

[gmeast]

diode strings

to the forum lapperl

This a great first post.... and this is EXACTLY what I'd hoped for...
Groundloop over at overunity.com will really enjoy your enhancement
of his diagram.

It, i believe, is an accurate rendition and extraction/translation of
what was pictured in the video, his description/dialogue on the vid, AND
his circuit .pdf ..... that took alot of work to interpret all of that.

well done and will look forward to future posts as you progress in your
replications and variations.

ps.... I will repost to the overunity.com thread for all to see if that's ok?

Hi goldenequity and all,

The diagram is now pretty much correct. Like I said 3 posts ago:

"...................

In the PDF he says:

"To eliminate crossfire. I installed 7 diodes in series with each individual dipole feed wire."

And I think he means there is a diode string from each spark plug back to the junction of the cap and rectifier. This point might be considered a "common" of sorts.

..........."

Peace,

Greg

[sirmikey1]

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Hello people,
Today I was talking to a fellow in UK who has read the Meyers
patent, and I wanted to post what he said about this technology,
that someone here might suddenly see something from it:

Paste:

Hello Mike,
I read the Meyers patents on the H20 splitter, the point was that he was highly energising and exciting the H20 moleules using lasers and starving the atoms of their protons (before splitting them), so that when they hit the chamber only the smallest spark ignited the process, thats why it was so efficient.
It seems to me that no-one can replicate the process because they do not really understand what was happening. The "water plasma spark" is being generated by high tension voltage, some of the videos are using mains 220v and practically short circuiting it to get a spark! At that rate they will blow a hole clean through the side of the chamber!
Still if it works and it ignites water then I suppose it is a start?
Matt

[goldenequity]

Nexus Diagram revision

@ lapperl

I emailed Bill (the Nexus circuit video/.pdf guy) a copy of your diagram revision.
Here was his response:

The diodes in the 60 string are going in the wrong direction.
The ground for the capacitor should be to the battery, NOT to the 120 hot!
Cripes
When you geter done, could I have a copy for the PDF?
Much better than mine
Regards,
Bill

So... If you're willing.... please revise again and I will keep this going until it's "approved" and confirmed .... then he will update his .pdf to include your revision!

Let's stay on top of this as it will help all and keep him from getting a 'million' emails!
thanks