Water Sparkplug

[gmeast]

plasma CDI distributor

Hi all,

Just posting some pics. The first photo shows my VW distributor having the stock points removed and replaced by two hall sensors ... one for the CDI CAP charge pulse and the other for the CDI Cap discharge pulse. The second photo shows the magnetic rotor in place on the rotor shaft and overhanging the sensors. The last photo is a scope capture showing the complimentary signals produced by the sensors and rotor.

Peace,

Greg

[xpskid]

Greg,

Great work !!
I have machine tool envy from the parts the you and Jetijs are able to produce.

A couple questions: Where did you purchase your Hall Effect ignition module ?
It appears pretty generic ? They appear small enough to fit most any distributor.
I have two distributors for my GM V6, 1 is the original which uses a hall effect switch (to trigger a transistor I believe) but is two large to try and mount a second switch. My newer distributer has dual points. I believe I can make it work although I'll have to offset one of them and play with the gap/dwell since they operate normally closed. I'd like to follow your replication with the solid state solution. Judging from the image, I would guess that the same modules would fit.

Timm

[gmeast]

Hall sensors

Greg,

Great work !!
I have machine tool envy from the parts the you and Jetijs are able to produce.

A couple questions: Where did you purchase your Hall Effect ignition module ?
It appears pretty generic ? They appear small enough to fit most any distributor.
I have two distributors for my GM V6, 1 is the original which uses a hall effect switch (to trigger a transistor I believe) but is two large to try and mount a second switch. My newer distributer has dual points. I believe I can make it work although I'll have to offset one of them and play with the gap/dwell since they operate normally closed. I'd like to follow your replication with the solid state solution. Judging from the image, I would guess that the same modules would fit.

Timm

Hi Timm,

"... machine tool envy... ", very original and funny! The sensors are by Compu-Fire ... the same name as on the sensors. I got them from a local after-market VW store. However, Compu-Fire has a pretty good web site and components for all kinds of vehicles. Be aware, I don't even know if the duration of pulse will be sufficient for the charge cycle. I won' know until I actually try it. If it fails to charge all the way at speed than I'll have to go to mechanical which is what I was going to do anyway until I decided to try this. There's nothing wrong with dual points. It will be just as positive because the points will only be handling signal levels.

Peace,

Greg

[terence123]

Hi everyone. Just lurking on this great interesting topic and waiting to collect all the parts that I need to start experimenting too.

Just one question in case of going mobile: Why the use of inverters? Is it not possible to step up (use extra transformer) the wave from the alternator before it is rectified?

Terence

[K1w1]

project 10 to 100

I have submitted the plasma spark circuit and the open source energy community to Project 10 to the 100th

If the voters choose the circuit we would receive $10 million for investing in the RnD process and bringing the circuit to the masses. There are 5 chances being offered. The official news will be made public on Jan 27 2009.

Keep up the good work everyone. I think the circuit stands a very good chance of being selected. Now I plan to ramp up the marketing and public awareness efforts online. Try to get some greater momentum on this amazing technology.

If you do a search for "plasma spark circuit" on google we are already on the first page. Now to get some attention in the international press.

[ashtweth]

Now that is an idea with potential, the none profit org is making a fund raising video with the Booster and plasma spark on a 1.5 HP showing all the groups research, and themes etc..this might help all, feel free to use it, i see the dead line ..will have it edited and up in 2 weeks for all

[Shamus]

Good luck with that Kiwi, I sincerely wish you luck but I have serious doubts that any mainstream news source will take such news seriously (as for why, well, that's a fairly involved subject ). I think you'll have much better success using underground/alternative backchannels for propagating this information.

If you look at the GEET youtube video that Ash posted (in the GEET thread) you'll see a clip of Paul Pantone on a local news broadcast. They showed his technology and showed it working but the way the newscaster presented it (I can't remember if she rolled her eyes but it was heavily implied in her delivery) was in such a way as to subtly discredit it. The not so subtle way of discrediting it was in the little caption attached to the bottom corner of the video feed that said "Crazy Inventions".

Again, good luck with the publicity, but be sure to keep your eyes open.

[ashtweth]

the Spark video we are making can be used in the underground circles Shamus mentioned too , in fact we get interviewed on Truth news this friday, will mention all the gang

[gmeast]

alternator

Hi everyone. Just lurking on this great interesting topic and waiting to collect all the parts that I need to start experimenting too.

Just one question in case of going mobile: Why the use of inverters? Is it not possible to step up (use extra transformer) the wave from the alternator before it is rectified?

Terence

HI,

Yes. But the frequency and voltage changes with RPM and that may not be good. So some inverter circuit runing off the DC would be needed anyway.

Peace,

Greg

[xpskid]

Hi everyone,

I started a new topic and ask if you can please have a look: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...y-charger.html

Luc

Hello Luc,

Just curious if you were still working on your Plasma Spark / GEET motor ?

Regards,

Timm

[Kinetix]

terence123, your idea is good. If you go back a few pages, will find a schematic I have posted showing how to charge a capacitor through the alternator and discharge it through a thyristor. Some years ago I have made a such ignition, and it worked. I used a 0.5uF or 1uF capacitor, I don't remember...
The frecquency increases with the rpm, and that is a very good thing. It supplyes more current (voltage) to charge the capacitor.

All the best.

[gmeast]

plasma CDI installation

Hi all,

Just some more pics. The first photo is of the module made with a bunch of store bought parts - as is. The next photo is my VW's engine compartment showing the 3 mounting studs sticking out of the compartment wall. The third photo is of the module test-mounted to check for stuff hitting stuff, etc.

Peace,

Greg

[Jetijs]

Looks nice, Greg
But what's with your generator project? Wont you tests the water spark setup on your generator first?

[gmeast]

generator project

Looks nice, Greg
But what's with your generator project? Wont you tests the water spark setup on your generator first?

Hi Jetijs,

Well, once I discovered that the original, isolated water spark plug circuit was inherently stable for multiple plugs (no cross fire), I got obsessed with the distributor issue. So I went ahead and solved the 'charge, discharge" switching challenge for a distributor and built the dual hall sensor distributor. I intend to only run my VW on the circuit, make a quick video, restore the VW and get back to running the generator on emulsion, geet-type, WATER ... same circuit and hardware. I can't do any science with the VW. I'll be back on the generator in about a week or so.

Sincerely,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Hello Luc,

Just curious if you were still working on your Plasma Spark / GEET motor ?

Regards,

Timm

Hi xpskid and everyone,

I will continue to do the work on the half Geet engine. I was waiting for SCR's which finally came in yesterday and I also have a few other items coming in any day now. So hopefully I will have a better switching circuit for a retest.

I like to keep myself busy when waiting for parts so I started a topic to help out a researcher and I have pulled out a few other experiment that I was working on before the Water Power Spark circuit was found.

I am very happy to see everyone's work and how well it is all developing

Hope to have an update soon

Cheers

Luc