Water Sparkplug

[gmeast]

is ours an ok oscillator?

Absolutely- NO PROBLEMS. You must working with Sine wave form- no 555 timers!!!. I can say- it is not possible to overheat, because- (if You working with Darlington with high current gain, and if You working with MOSFET`s) You start with 0 Volts. Your secondary voltage is 0 too. After You start open Your Darlington(12000 gain of current, or power MOSFET)- the secondary voltage start go up, but current (it is very important) start go from 0 Amps too. It’s absolutely linear process!!! That is AMPLIFICATION process.
P.S. If You work with oscilators- like Greg one, then you MUST TAKE SELF OSCILATOR with sine wave form too- in simple explanation- NO MULTIVIBRATORS WITH CAPACITY IN TIME CORECTION CIRCUITS only feedback from primary!!!
Thank, You!

Hi Ansis,

we're trying to keep it simple. So are you saying that our self-oscillator is OK? It delivers the power at frequency ... it works.

Greg

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi, Greg!

Yes, Your choise is OK, because, there is no capacitor in the positive feedback from primary. This is very wise kind of schematic. This circuit is in very many "improvisations"- with Silicium, Germanium bipolar transistors. The best one is with Germanium bipolar. It is because Base-Emiter open/close is only 0.3-0.4 Volts instead of 0.6-0.7 Volts in Silicium bipolar. Many others working with IGBTs transistors, but??? I don’t know. MOSFET`s is very good- but only on the paper... in real life they can BLOW UP in every moment... . MOSFET`s are not "love" capacity loads. And MOSFET`s don’t like saturated maximal currents- current is changing direction in this situations... and BANG!!!
P.S. MOSFET`s are very special "animals".

[gmeast]

Thanks

Yes, Your choise is OK, because, there is no capacitor in the positive feedback from primary. This is very wise kind of schematic. This circuit is in very many "improvisations"- with Silicium, Germanium bipolar transistors. The best one is with Germanium bipolar. It is because Base-Emiter open/close is only 0.3-0.4 Volts instead of 0.6-0.7 Volts in Silicium bipolar. Many others working with IGBTs transistors, but??? I don’t know. MOSFET`s is very good- but only on the paper... in real life they can BLOW UP in every moment... . MOSFET`s are not "love" capacity loads. And MOSFET`s don’t like saturated maximal currents- current is changing direction in this situations... and BANG!!!
P.S. MOSFET`s are very special "animals".

Hi Ansis,

Thanks for your input. The transformers themselves come with ratings of course like 12VA @ 50/60 Hz. With this circuit at 1000 Hz it consumes (unloaded) about 30% less power but does not self regulate as well under load as running at 133 Hz or so. In your opinion, where should we run this ... Hz? I understand the ratings are nonsense now because we are running it backwards as a step-up transformer.

Greg

[Ansis Freimanis]

About transformer and frequency

You know- in the world of electron flow- on the planet Earth are American 110V 60Hz standard, European 220(230)V 50Hz and Aviation standard with 110V(?) 400Hz.
This time when I was in Russian army- Aviation forces(Soviet Union times- Latvia was under Soviets) was far ago and I don’t remember how exactly Volts was on Mig`s board’s.
This 12VA or Watts and 50-60Hz is China manufactory standard- for sale in Europe and America... .
If we start discussing about our "custom circuit" we must understand- this 50-60Hz is unimportant parameter, because they are working up to 2 KHz and after 2 KHz this device is not working. If we speak about ideal frequency for this 12W transformer- than You must make a primitive generator(yourself) or take a original Sin Wave generator with adjustable frequency and find optimal frequency with load on the end of pins. I know- the good is 500Hz for this. This is -how can I say: middle of the frequency in which this transformer can do job.
Thank, You!

[gmeast]

Freq

You know- in the world of electron flow- on the planet Earth are American 110V 60Hz standard, European 220(230)V 50Hz and Aviation standard with 110V(?) 400Hz.
This time when I was in Russian army- Aviation forces(Soviet Union times- Latvia was under Soviets) was far ago and I don’t remember how exactly Volts was on Mig`s board’s.
This 12VA or Watts and 50-60Hz is China manufactory standard- for sale in Europe and America... .
If we start discussing about our "custom circuit" we must understand- this 50-60Hz is unimportant parameter, because they are working up to 2 KHz and after 2 KHz this device is not working. If we speak about ideal frequency for this 12W transformer- than You must make a primitive generator(yourself) or take a original Sin Wave generator with adjustable frequency and find optimal frequency with load on the end of pins. I know- the good is 500Hz for this. This is -how can I say: middle of the frequency in which this transformer can do job.
Thank, You!

Thanks alot!

Greg

[jibbguy]

Don't forget Tucker

Imo the problem with the concept of applying a new highly improved technology via one company and one industry is this: Any small or start-up company that first tries it will suddenly be attacked from a hundred angles... Legally and other ways. If you don't think that large corps in the U.S. can't make bad things happen to their weaker competitors... Then you never saw the movie "Tucker", which was pretty accurate to what really happened.

Congress would quickly and silently pass some restrictive law under lobbyist pressure, or there would be innumerable lawsuits (they don't need to have any real merit), or there would be some kind of negative public relations / mainstream media campaign to smear the tech or the people behind it, or their suppliers would dry-up and stop supplying, or many of their key help would suddenly quit (bought off and threatened), or their bank would just decide to call in all notes without warning or reason... When Billions are at stake something like this would likely happen. A combo of them most likely.

I think the better way is to push it from the bottom-up in as wide a base as possible. Sign as many as possible Agreements to let others manufacture and OEM market it world-wide, let the Open Source and traditional scientific communities have most of the details, and let anyone who wants to license it cheaply for their own similar related "inventions" / devices. This makes it much harder to stop. When someone is shooting at you, it's safer to have multiple targets than one

[GotGas]

Yes, Your choise is OK, because, there is no capacitor in the positive feedback from primary. This is very wise kind of schematic. This circuit is in very many "improvisations"- with Silicium, Germanium bipolar transistors. The best one is with Germanium bipolar. It is because Base-Emiter open/close is only 0.3-0.4 Volts instead of 0.6-0.7 Volts in Silicium bipolar. Many others working with IGBTs transistors, but??? I don’t know. MOSFET`s is very good- but only on the paper... in real life they can BLOW UP in every moment... . MOSFET`s are not "love" capacity loads. And MOSFET`s don’t like saturated maximal currents- current is changing direction in this situations... and BANG!!!
P.S. MOSFET`s are very special "animals".

If you look at about any circuit that resembles this you will find an SCR (silicone controlled rectifier) being used as the switch. A bypass diode and a small choke will protect the SCR from the back EMF.

A fence charger is a good analog of this circuit. Have a look at how one of those works, it is pretty simple.

Rather than try and build a circuit like this with minimal electronics experience you might find someone to help you out. There is a nice guy on youtube named crazieg YouTube - crazzieg's Channel

He is retired now and earned his living creating power conversion circuits. I have looked at some of his stuff. He stays clear of digital electronics and does everything analog. This is how you would design something that will be robust enough for this environment.

He is a super nice person and lives in the DC area. Send him a note, he wants to help people out.

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi, to All.

Imo the problem with the concept of applying a new highly improved technology via one company and one industry is this: Any small or start-up company that first tries it will suddenly be attacked from a hundred angles... Legally and other ways. If you don't think that large corps in the U.S. can't make bad things happen to their weaker competitors... Then you never saw the movie "Tucker", which was pretty accurate to what really happened.

Congress would quickly and silently pass some restrictive law under lobbyist pressure, or there would be innumerable lawsuits (they don't need to have any real merit), or there would be some kind of negative public relations / mainstream media campaign to smear the tech or the people behind it, or their suppliers would dry-up and stop supplying, or many of their key help would suddenly quit (bought off and threatened), or their bank would just decide to call in all notes without warning or reason... When Billions are at stake something like this would likely happen. A combo of them most likely.

I think the better way is to push it from the bottom-up in as wide a base as possible. Sign as many as possible Agreements to let others manufacture and OEM market it world-wide, let the Open Source and traditional scientific communities have most of the details, and let anyone who wants to license it cheaply for their own similar related "inventions" / devices. This makes it much harder to stop. When someone is shooting at you, it's safer to have multiple targets than one

John Tucker Must Die- this is correct name of the movie? (I am not expert in movies...)
P.S. I take it from torrents. Yes, if "You" know somthing "more", then "men in black" are not far from "Your" doors.

[Ansis Freimanis]

to GotGas

Hi! I know user "crazzieg". His circuits is multivibators with square wave self oscilator. This kind "square" circuits is not usable in my understanding. Because transformers don`t work right with square...
Thank, You.

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi, Greg!

You must try it! This is only way to know is that possible. If yes, you`ll see!
Thanks.

[Aaron]

New Geet thread

I made this new thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...l-pantone.html

Please post anything about GEET, the catalytic converter offshoot anything else related to that over there.

If I moved a post into there that needs to be back here, let me know and I'll move it back.

[Gre]

Interesting MIT article
MIT Spectrum » Summer 2003 » Engine Overhaul

[jibbguy]

Hi Ansis. The movie i mentioned starred Jeff Bridges and had the full official name of "Tucker: The Man and His Dream" . The real-life figure's first name was "Preston", so it must be a different move than the one you mentioned (although movies often have different titles in other countries).

It is a story about someone who made an all-new car in the early 1950's, significantly better in dozens of ways than the competition's, and he paid for it

[turbotrana]

This guy has a video on getting high voltage from the alternator.

Could be of use down the track

YouTube - Alternator Internal Workings - Voltage Doubler / Quadrupler

[Aaron]

alternator tapped