Water Sparkplug

[gotoluc]

Hi All,

Similar as what Greg done (very nice experiment ), I made an experiment on my SUV with 'semi geet setup'. I used 100% gasoline in the bubbler and it's 300 km running now with this setup. Just look like air bleed to the engine, I introduce the fuel vapour at two lines (the top of air filter and inlet vacuum after the carburetor). At this time I used stainless steel wire as the catalyst (need trial and error change the catalyst to see the different effect on cracking Hydrocarbon chain by thermal catalyst).

So far, the engine runs very well. I could increase the speed easily. I donot know the MPG yet (may be after the fuel tank empty).

Right now, I'm still using standard CDI from the car. Later I will introduce our plasma booster ignition on this setup. We'll see the effect on power and MPG...

Hi revizal,

I like your setup idea

If you can test with Diesel it would be better. The Oil Mafia oops, I mean Companies have been adding chemicals in Gasoline to prevent fuel cracking. I believe Diesel is not altered yet. They change the chemical additives in Gasoline up to 4 times a year, so if you had a GEET vehicle you would need to re-tune the reactor rod every time the additives change. Also, if you traveled from State to State you would also possibly have fuel additive changes, even changing from one garage Company to another can get a different blend. This is the number one reason the GEET system has never taken off in America as Diesel is not the Fuel of choice for cars! ... Gasoline is. I think they are trying to keep it this way also since for the last 2 years Diesel is higher priced than Gasoline and is now up to a $1 more per U.S. Gallon. Before this, for as long as I can remember Diesel use to be less than Gasoline.

The GEET has really taken off in France and the main reason for that is Diesel is the number one choice for vehicle fuel. They are years ahead on GEET Diesel development. I know about this because I researched it a year ago and French is my mother tung.

One way or the other Diesel has more energy content. Not much difference than Jet fuel.

Great work revizal and thanks for sharing.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Thanks for the report Revizal. Here is the plug wear report on your circuit running with Wouter's WFA booster. We dropped the dump cap down
from 50 to 30uF.

Seems like not allot of wear, this were the same plugs, so if you compare this to the last photo in the PDf, there does not appear to be significant wear, but we noticed not as much power, so its
still a trade off.

We have some new plugs to try also.

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Ash

Hi Ash,

thanks for posting the new picks I can't see the difference from the previous so I'll have to take it from your description.

The last one looks like a carbon build up from a loose contact

Could you post your previous charge voltage and cap size with this new test charge voltage and cap size so we have a record of it.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[ashtweth]

Hi Luc and all,. i just noticed what an ass i made out of my self with the out of focus snaps, will take some more snaps today and get the values sorry guys :P

[revizal]

HC cracking system + Plasma Ignition

Hi revizal,

If you can test with Diesel it would be better.

Luc

Thanks Luc,

I believe with appropriate process we can crack a long chain HC to get better combustion. Or we can increase the octant number of gasoline (because gasoline easier to vaporize and pass the catalyst by engine's vacuum) before entering plasma ignition zone. But yes, cracking diesel is better than gasoline.

I'm still thinking the best way to vaporize diesel and the setup will be:
Diesel vapour ==> thermal catalyst ==> leaner AFR ==> plasma ignition
or even:
water vapour ==> thermal catalyst ==> leaner AFR ==> plasma ignition

I think the closest point that we will catch is getting better MPG.

Rev.

[ashtweth]

I have one question. Is your setup with limited quantum of gasoline or you put in your "bubbler" more gasoline after some time? Is it system with pump?

In You Tube user "jopinoypower" are making very advanced car.
YouTube - jopinoypower's Channel
I think he can share with us his knowledge. I send a letter to him- about our forum.
Thank, You!

Hi Ansis, I know the guy well, he has already shared his stuff with us all
Down load this document
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Fue...ifications.pdf

Now, look at the bottom for PDF -water mist and fuel vaporization research (its at the bottom , your looking for a PDF). Now Jo's stuff is called genesis

[gmeast]

water spark plug + steam test begins

Hi everyone,

I built and installed a water system today. It is very simple and introduces hot steam into the inlet air. This keeps the inlet air warm- guaranteeing good mixing between the air, gas vapor and steam water vapor.

I did some highway driving and more back road and around-town driving before topping off the fuel tank and taking the odometer reading. Of course I checked the plasma system to make sure all was fine with that too.

The water addition rate is about 2 drips every 3 seconds. For the record my odometer reading is 35987. I have no idea how many times it has actually flipped.

Kinda' looks like my Bug is on an I V Drip ... hope it survives !

I have linked six (6) pictures of the installation.

Peace,

Greg

-overall picture


-shows holding tank


-shows sight glass (vinyl really) & needle valve above


-shows water line entering hot carburetor air inlet tube


-shows water line on inside wall of hot air inlet tube


-shows the hot exhaust pipe that the water drips onto

[Aaron]

engine

Wow Great!

You're work is very inspiring to me!

I have a Datsun 240Z with a 2.8liter in it with a 240 head for higher compression...it is pretty souped up but I wrecked the car racing.

Anyway, I think this coming spring I might pull the engine out and junk the car and just put the engine on a test stand and do these mods.

I would hope to see more duplication attempts on gas generators since there are a lot fewer variables to account for. The lawnmower Peter and I was using had the rip cord attachment break so we couldn't do much with it. I'm just itching to get back to the experiments.

[ashtweth]

NICE Greg!! I bet that engine will last longer and it will run cooler obviously with the steam injection and get almost the same benefits as the hydroxy. If Bugs came off the production line like that ill take 5 of them

[gmeast]

thanks

Wow Great!

You're work is very inspiring to me!

I have a Datsun 240Z with a 2.8liter in it with a 240 head for higher compression...it is pretty souped up but I wrecked the car racing.

Anyway, I think this coming spring I might pull the engine out and junk the car and just put the engine on a test stand and do these mods.

I would hope to see more duplication attempts on gas generators since there are a lot fewer variables to account for. The lawnmower Peter and I was using had the rip cord attachment break so we couldn't do much with it. I'm just itching to get back to the experiments.

Thanks Aaron, I appreciate your words.

Greg

[gmeast]

condensation

NICE Greg!! I bet that engine will last longer and it will run cooler obviously with the steam injection and get almost the same benefits as the hydroxy. If Bugs came off the production line like that ill take 5 of them

Hi Ash,

Even when you rev the engine, if you hold a piece of steel or aluminum in the exhaust stream water condenses and dribbles off!

I know my thermal efficiency is up because I still have the same compression ratio ... of course ... so my (p1 - p2) / p1 is the same, my exhaust temp is just way down. I bet I'm producing very low NOx's.

It sounds throatier than normal ... some things are definitely different ... very peppy though.

Greg

[ashtweth]

Greg, you should be getting carbon credits for that Bro. When we did the hydroxy we showed 67% less hydrocarbons, which in fact attack the liver and cause cancer. That modification alone is a great success Greg. Absolutely beautiful to watch man.

Sincerely
Ash

[Kinetix]

Yes, Greg, your steam system it's very simple and creative.
But there is a problem that could be noticed: as the steam reaches the air filter, it could make it wet (more or less), and increase it's resistance to air flow.
I think it would be better that steam enters in the air stream after the air filter.
All the best.

[gmeast]

wet

Yes, Greg, your steam system it's very simple and creative.
But there is a problem that could be noticed: as the steam reaches the air filter, it could make it wet (more or less), and increase it's resistance to air flow.
I think it would be better that steam enters in the air stream after the air filter.
All the best.

Hi Kinetix,

I appreciate your suggestion. For now there's no air filter. I cleaned out the old oil bath air filter oil and let it flow free. However, the circuitous path may have a condensating effect. I will move it eventually now that you pointed this out. For the moment it's breathing easier than it ever has.

Thanks for your interest.

Peace,

Greg

[gmeast]

condensation

Hi all,

On Kinetix' comments, I opened up the air filter housing to see if there was any water in the filter housing. There was still a little filter oil in it but there was no liquid water. For now I'll leave the set up like it is for this tank of gas. Then I'll likely move the steam-air inlet to 'after' the filter housing or to a different location on the housing so I can again filter the air.

I think the fact that the steam is fully entrained in ALL of the inlet air keeps it from condensing out in spite of its winding path on the way to the carb'. I have a renewed respect for the old Bug so I even changed the oil ... again.

Peace,

Greg

[jstadwater]

Great work Greg!!!

I love the setup, as always, simple and straight to the point! I am working on a "total package" single cylinder lawn tractor at the moment. I had to fix a wiring problem yesterday, (after I finally found it) and then a starter switch problem after that, the evil forces are at work to try to prevent progress. Now have the plasma circuit working in the tractor! On regular gasoline, I flip on the plasma and the rpm goes up and engine smooths out very nicely. Now, on to the introduction of hydroxy, steam, and diesel fog!!! AND quite possibly, NO gasoline at all. I'd say wish me luck......but luck is for rabbits the first day of hunting season! The only direction left to go is forward. On with the experiments, later..............................Mike

P.S. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to everyone! We all have allot to be thankful for. If you stop and think, you may be surprised how long it actually takes to count each and every thing you are thankful for. Enjoy the holiday, I know I'm going to eat WAY too much turkey!