Water Sparkplug

[lapperl]

Hey Guys,

I have a question about the guy making fog from deisel fuel (page 60 or 61 I think). In the first part of the video, he states it's an ultrasonic transducer, right after that he says that something is "modified" and I can't understand what he says due to his accent. Can anyone here understand what he says is modified? I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go. Also looks like he has removed the "waterlevel sensor" from the top of the transducer, would that have any effect I wonder? Any suggestions are appreciated, later.......................Mike

I believe that is what he said, that he removed the water sensor.

LapperL

[jstadwater]

Thanks lapperl,

I got the same thoughts from the guy in the next shop over from me when he heard it. It makes sense now, I just couldn't make it out at first. I'll try that next, first is water-fog and HHO to see what happens with the plasma spark. Later..............................Mike

[gmeast]

accent

Hey Guys,

I have a question about the guy making fog from deisel fuel (page 60 or 61 I think). In the first part of the video, he states it's an ultrasonic transducer, right after that he says that something is "modified" and I can't understand what he says due to his accent. Can anyone here understand what he says is modified? I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go. Also looks like he has removed the "waterlevel sensor" from the top of the transducer, would that have any effect I wonder? Any suggestions are appreciated, later.......................Mike

Hi Mike,

One thing he says is he deactivates the "water low" sensor.

Greg

[Jetijs]

Mike,
I just observed the same with my fogger. It works on water, but does not work in gasoline. The water level sensor is clearly responsible for this. But to disable the sensor, we first must know what kind of sensor that is and how it works, because if you just cut it off, the whole thing might just not works anymore. This might be a resistance sensor that measures the liquid resistance and then decides if to turn the fogger on or not. Water a measurable resistance, but gasoline shows nothing on my meter, that means that gasoline resistance is much higher. But it can also be a capacitive sensor... Will google around about this. I already asked that guy how he did it, lets wait for the answer. Let me know if you find something out
Thanks.

[Chris31]

I though that the frequency to break diesel or gasoline would be different from water.

[Jetijs]

Here's how this sensor looks like without the protective shrink tape (still works )



Maybe someone can tell what type of sensor this is?

[Jetijs]

I though that the frequency to break diesel or gasoline would be different from water.

It might be different due to different liquid densities. The water is a bit thicker than gasoline/diesel. But I think that this fogger should work just as fine on gaoline if not even better due to lower liquid density. All we need to do is to fool the sensor

[Chris31]

It might be different due to different liquid densities. The water is a bit thicker than gasoline/diesel. But I think that this fogger should work just as fine on gaoline if not even better due to lower liquid density. All we need to do is to fool the sensor

Ultrasonic Misters

Check > Water Level Sensor

[Jetijs]

Thanks Chris
I got it to work and it works even better on gasoline - more fog than with water. All you need to do is to connect the sensor metal plate with the fogger case with a wire and it will work in gasoline

[jstadwater]

I just took this one apart, it is simply a copper tube with the two wire ends inside soldered to the inside of the tube. Will try a solid wire connection between the two wires to see what happens. Later.......................Mike

[Jetijs]

Mike, just connect the copper tube with the fogger case!

Also, the fogger wont work in cold liquids, you need warm liquids for it to work.

[jstadwater]

Thanks Jetijs,

I have to go get another fogger head, I already screwed this one up. Thanks for figuring out that sensor tricker for us.



Mike

[Chris31]

Thanks Chris
I got it to work and it works even better on gasoline - more fog than with water. All you need to do is to connect the sensor metal plate with the fogger case with a wire and it will work in gasoline

Excellent, lets see how this one work

[Aaron]

siphon nozzle

I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go.

Hi Mike,

In the oil furnace world. There are people doing b100 biodiesel, etc... To get thicker oils like filtered vegi oil to mist/atomize, they are using siphon nozzles. Instead of pressurized oil pushing through a nozzle, it is air that goes through and there are slots the oil can be sucked out of when the pressurized air goes over it like venturi effect.

Maybe this is something that can be fit for auto use for these purposes.

Not as fine as "fog" probably but if it works for a simple oil furnace igniter, I can only imagine how much better with plasma.

Siphon Nozzle suits used-oil applications., Hago Mfg. Co. Inc.

[ashtweth]

plasma discharge

Guys, this was sent to me, he wants to remain Anon


I hold the keys to plasma what I am about to tell you can be shared openly the secret to making a plasma discharge in a vessel such as glass stable is to use iodine crystals. Iodine can also be used to change the colors in certain gas mixtures like xenon and krypton. Bromine will turn a krypton discharge from green to yellow green as well as many other colors can be changed. Flourine is also a very essential halogen for experimentation and can be mixed with multiple gas mixtures however iodine is the secret to making a stable plasma discharge of museum grade. helium makes a wonderful discharge but will seep through even the thickest glass over time. This gas is especially fun to work with krypton and xenon as well as argon react well with helium. A dash of xenon is included in almost every plasma discharge. Argon is used for bombardment the cleaning of the glass over a three hour period and when vacuumed out it remains in all fill mixtures in trace amounts. Argon makes a nasty red color but when mixed with neon it can make a nice display here too the power supply makes all the diffrence in the world with plasma discharge.