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Greg,
What is the power consumption of the "new" bipolar transistor (capactor charger) inverter? .6 amp right? Is that no load or with the car running? You said that your alternator is getting hot. Is that from running the AC inverter or the ocillator/transformer power unit? What's the best set up to start from?

by the way, all you guys, thanks for all your work. I'm on the Allied web site ordering parts to conduct my own set up.

The transformer sounds right, Power out = power in - losses. For a step up, you just apply the voltage to the secondary instead of the primary. If it's designed for 50/60Hz and your driving it with 55Hz you should be well in the ball park.

The problem with popping MOSFET's in 555 type oscillators (Driving the charging circuit) is that they are being driven by a square wave. Two problems exist. 1. they are not being fully switched on as the Source Voltage ~= Gate voltage from the 555 output. 2. the waveform your pushing through the inductor/capacitor components is not sinusoidal. Therefore your pushing the transistor in the top and bottom of the wave to dissipate that power (heat). and in this case without using a "driver" to fully switch it on it gets hot and does not deliver the rated amps. Fully on = Vgs + Vcc. Literally, a sqare peg in a round hole. The bipolars/transformer is a round (sinusoidal) approach. Also, obviously MOSFET's don't do inductive loads without a flywheel diode across the Source and Drain. MOSFET transistors will NOT tolerate non-solid state switching at all. If you use a MOSFET, you must NOT disconnect the transistor circuit from the transformer or inductive load until voltage is 0.

Kyle

Hi Kyle,

Thank for your interest. With my present 2-transistor inverter/oscillator it draw 5 amps sitting there. The new one that some have been building including myself has a quiescent or standby current of only .6 amps. But the old one draws so much power that I can't (won't) turn on the headlights too. In other words:

-present power hog inverter + headlights = too much for the alternator-

The two schematics we have been working with follow. They are simple, self oscillators ... no 555's or Micros. The first one is the power hog and the second one is looking much better, there is also a capture of the trace from the new NPN inverter @ 45 Watts, input voltage is 14.5 VDC:

The newer inverter really ain't that bad for a simple device.

Thanks,

Greg

currently in service - high quiescent power hog self-oscillator


newer low quiescent power self-oscillator


trace of newer @ 45 Watts load and 14.5 VDC input @ 60 Watts consumption.

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Does this help?

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Peace
Pj

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Sk9136

Here's the specs on that transistor. Looks like it's available.

SK9136
Si PNP Power BJT

V(BR)CEO (V)=100
V(BR)CBO (V)=100
I(C) Abs.(A) Collector Current=30
Absolute Max. Power Diss. (W)=200
h(FE) Min. Static Current Gain=25
@I(C) (A) (Test Condition)=5.0
@V(CE) (V) (Test Condition)=4.0
Package=TO-3
Military=N

That patent I threw at you has some good performance data (look near the end) on that circuit burning gas in a 1977 Pontiac Grand Prix equipped with a 8-cylinder, 301 cubic inch engine.

I interpret the numbers as a 37% increase fuel economy and a 89% decreace in un-burned fuel at the tail pipe.

If nothing else it might be a good example for you guys to compare your performance to.

Sorry if I'm bothering. Tell me to shut up and I'll leave you guys alone. I'm no expert. Just wanted to help that's all.

Oh, don't forget 1420 Mhz

PEACE
PJ

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trouble with attachments....

Greg,
Thanks for your response and the information. I finally got my order ready.. or so. I was trying to get the details on the HV Diodes and I could not open up the attachments to the Thread. I found the price between 2000 Volt Diodes and 1000 Volt is a bunch. In your videos your using 2 in parallel. What's the part number and rating. If I could get to the attachments I'd not have to ask you.

Thanks,
Kyle

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Sk9136?

The complementary PNP for the 2N3055 is MJ2955 according to ST Microelectronics. I looked in Allied electronics and Digikey and I could not find a match for SK9136. Is that a Motorolla number? What's the cross reference numbers on it?

Xack

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Sorry to confuse...got in a hurry, missed a shift, and bent the brain pan...I'll shut up now and stand in the corner over here so I don't get in your way.

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@Kinetix, conclusion

magnetO What is your conclusion after experimented with those diodes?

Hi Kinetix,

you got PM.

Conclusion is, I can possible re-use most of my trashed diodes. Every string has to consist of diodes with nearly same revers resistance.

Best regards
magnetO

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By maxcThis is from september of 1979. Professor A. K. Oppenheim was working on the plasma jet plug. But no details on how to build it.

[Kinetix]

Thanks, magnetO.
Xack, why do you look for a complementary transistor to 2N3055 for Q1 and Q2?
They are not complementary to 2N3055, as they must do different jobs. Q1 and Q2 make oscillations and Q3-Q4 drive the transformer.
I think you can use any medium power pnp transistor for Q1-2, e.g: BD140, BD238, etc.
All the best.

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Aim Small Miss Small

The following can be found here:APT - Publications: Tornado Combustor

Y. Korolev, I. Matveev, "Nanosecond-scale Processes in a Plasma Pilot for Ignition and Flame Control", 2nd International Workshop and Exhibition on Plasma Assisted Combustion, 19-21 September 2006, Falls Church, VA, USA.

http://www.plasmacombustion.com/imag...uel_nozzle.jpg

We have evidence of plasma combustor suppression here:
YouTube - Free Energy - Plasmatron - Inventor Died Suddenly

And strangely, not a single hit on the word PLASMATRON at wikipedia????

However a google search returns a nice low number of results exposing the work of mainstream academia:

plasmatron - Google Search

Peace
PJ

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Hi Greg

New here.

Looking at the pdf on the transformer tells me that it is a PF24-24, not PF24-10. PF24-24 gives 24VAC. PF24-10 gives 10VAC (Series connection).
I might be reading it wrong , if so correct me!
Mike

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Why use two when one will do?

I reckon the folks here at energeticforum are gonna expose the eggheads by cutting through the crap with Occam's Razor!

YouTube - MIT Plasmatron - Principles of the Pantone GEET Device

GO TEAM

Peace
PJ

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diodes

Greg,
Thanks for your response and the information. I finally got my order ready.. or so. I was trying to get the details on the HV Diodes and I could not open up the attachments to the Thread. I found the price between 2000 Volt Diodes and 1000 Volt is a bunch. In your videos your using 2 in parallel. What's the part number and rating. If I could get to the attachments I'd not have to ask you.

Thanks,
Kyle

Well, I am using NTE517 replacement microwave diodes. They are 15KV and 0.535 Amp. I actually have four each per plug. And that's expensive too ... $6.30 ea. ... $100 in diodes alone for my VW Bug @%$&# !. Those who use diode strings have been using N5408 ... 1000V & 3A ... forgot the price.

What was your take on the Scope Capture?

Greg

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Complementary Components

Kinetix,
You make an excellent point. Since I could not find 2N1305 in my search I saw the complementary component listed in the data sheet for the 2N3055. Do you think a medium power PNP help the function and efficiency? faster switching?

Thanks,
Xack

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Scope Capture

Greg,
is your scope set on 50 volts / division? It looks like it's around 350Volts pp. That's pretty good. It looks like it'll be a great place to start from and also have headlights available. I'm wrapping up my order for parts.

Thanks,

Xack