Water Sparkplug

[gmeast]

Krupa's plasma under pressure-inductoin ignition

Hi all,

I uploaded a video showing the Firestorm at no pressure-VexUs on and off and also under pressure-VexUs on and off.

A healthy plasma arc is produced by the plug even without a plasma or CDI driver circuit. It is enhanced somewhat however by the VexUs circuit.

video is at:

YouTube - nickel pressure

Enjoy,

Greg

[moose 53]

Thanks Bob.

Has anyone done a single half loop on the plugs instead of 2 half loops?

Also, what is the nickel materials for the plugs? Is it just pure nickel? Is that for the both the sphere and loops or only sphere or only loops?

Aaron, The material for the ball is Nickel 61 ERNi-1 Tig Rod which I think is just nickel , and the outside electrodes are salvaged from old plugs

[jamiec]

Hi thanks for the video Greg. Do you think that we might be able to
run an engine with a plasma spark with the Krupa type plugs but without
the plasma circuits? Are you going to test this?

Thanks jamie

[gmeast]

without

Hi thanks for the video Greg. Do you think that we might be able to
run an engine with a plasma spark with the Krupa type plugs but without
the plasma circuits? Are you going to test this?

Thanks jamie

Hi jamiec,

It was a surprise to see the plug display as it did. Our ultimate goal of complete Water as Fuel may need the extra punch of a plasma circuit. However I feel that there can be many benefits using just these plugs with emulsion fuels and GEET configurations.

In my research I will be testing high, high humidity (steam ingestion) with the fuel-air using these nickel plugs - with and without the VexUs Plasma circuit. I will also try and get a pulse from just water.

Thanks for responding. Peace,

Greg

[Aaron]

thanks - welding info?

Aaron, The material for the ball is Nickel 61 ERNi-1 Tig Rod which I think is just nickel , and the outside electrodes are salvaged from old plugs

Thank you!

I'm not a welder or machinist but my friends are. What kind of welding equipment was used for these mods?

[moose 53]

Aaron I used a Lincoln Tig welder .

[ashtweth]

Hi Guys! sorry just in back again from converting the the Farm then did another hydroxy install day after that..Sorry for being late in Aaron, GREAT PDF Aaron, thanks a lot Bro , very easy to navigate for those that just want to cut to the chase. Will update tonight.

Guys its easy to find stuff on the panacea UNIVERSITY dot org site, the Panacea-bocaf might be a bit harder but has a search there.

[gotoluc]

Aaron, The material for the ball is Nickel 61 ERNi-1 Tig Rod which I think is just nickel , and the outside electrodes are salvaged from old plugs

Hi Robin,

I was under the impression that the cage was also going to be made of Nickle.

So it's just the ball... I see

Do you think we could use the Nickel welding rods as cage material or are they too thick or thin?

Thanks for sharing and for all your support work to help this topic.

Luc

[moose 53]

Hi Luc, To the best of my understanding the outer electrodes of the old plugs I used are a high nickel alloy, no iron involved .

[Aaron]

15 pics added

15 pics added - How to Make Plasma Plugs

Please download
http://www.esmhome.org/library/rober...lasmaplugs.pdf

[Robert E.]

plasma plugs

How about pure silver as the spark plug ground rod material?? I mean many people use silver coated copper rods as spark gaps. That much silver shouldn't cost too much.

Jetijs, I have some bad news to go with the plugs. I ran to Church and back yesterday, 72 miles,(WITH PLASMA), and pulled a plug and had much,(maybe several thousands of an inch), wear on the steel ball. I am looking to build them out of nickel like Robin David does. Maybe I can send you some of them after doing more testing. Sorry for the bad news but I guess we have to learn the hard way. So they will work fine on regular ignition but not on plasma. Also the miles per gallon did not change from plasma plug regular ignition and plasma plug WITH plasma ignition!!!!!! Bob

[Aaron]

plug info

Hi Robert, what material was the ball made of on the plug that wore down?

Also, if I can get any descriptions to the pics in the spark plug doc, I can add those in as well.

[Jetijs]

Hi Bob
Don't worry about that. All we need for now is to test what improvement does the spark plug geometry give. We can always make spark plugs from better materials lates when we know that it is really worth it and so far it seems that it definatelly is worth
Thanks,
Jetijs

[Robert E.]

plasma plugs

Hi Robert, what material was the ball made of on the plug that wore down?

Also, if I can get any descriptions to the pics in the spark plug doc, I can add those in as well.

Aaron, The ball was made from steel. I need to build them the way Robin does I'm sure. I had NO wear with regular ignition on a 1000 mile trip. But 72 miles with the new plasma spark showed a lot of wear. The plasma spark was made at about 150 volts and a 3 uf cap. The wear I estimate to be about .005 to .010. and the puzzling thing was no improvement in gas mileage over regular ignition. Now the regular ignition with the ball plasma plugs DID give me about 30% better gas mileage, then with plasma added to the plasma plugs the mpg was the same. Bob

[gmeast]

with plasma

Jetijs, I have some bad news to go with the plugs. I ran to Church and back yesterday, 72 miles,(WITH PLASMA), and pulled a plug and had much,(maybe several thousands of an inch), wear on the steel ball. I am looking to build them out of nickel like Robin David does. Maybe I can send you some of them after doing more testing. Sorry for the bad news but I guess we have to learn the hard way. So they will work fine on regular ignition but not on plasma. Also the miles per gallon did not change from plasma plug regular ignition and plasma plug WITH plasma ignition!!!!!! Bob

Hi Robert,

How big is your CDI cap and what DC pumped up voltage are you using? I know that with only 2uF and 400 VDC I get a nasty plasma spark. A large cap just means huge current on the plug ... quite possibly too much current (heat) for the discharge area ... high thermal flux.

On materials: I come from the gas turbine engine field and am familiar with high temperature, high strength alloys "super alloys". They are mostly high nickel, chrome, cobalt with other trace elements. I'm thinking one of these alloys like one from the Hastelloy series, the Inconel series or some of the others will work well. These materials have superior oxidation resistance and strength at high temperature. I've welded many of these materials and in some respects they are easier and more forgiving to weld than other 'less super' alloys ... mostly because of their oxidation resistance. Plugs from these materials would likely stand up to the higher thermal flux induced by a plasma ignition system.

Just some thoughts,

Greg