Water Sparkplug

[aljhoa]

Hi again,

...the air that got heated as a result of combustion of the fuel. The air itself (mostly nitrogen) changes temperature from ambient to 3500 deg F + ... 4500 deg F in diesel (center of volume) . That temperature rise translates into a pressure rise. The amount of water as a combustion by-product and any steam it produces is very small compared to the volume of air that has gone from low temperature to high temperature and low pressure to high pressure. The humidity in the air plays a much bigger role than combustion by-products. What exactly do you mean by the term "by-products" anyway?

Greg

Hi Greg
Byproducts of combustion are: unburned hydrocarbons, mostly water and small amounts of carbon monoxide/dioxide and nitrous oxide. Mainly Nitrogen and steam are pushing the piston. For every 14.7 lbs of Air and 1lb of gasoline car exhaust has about 11lbs of Nitrogen (.78x14.7) and about 1lb of water.
What is the relative humidity in the car’s exhaust?
“The humidity in the air plays a much bigger role than combustion by-products.” Humidity dilutes Air/Fuel ratio and decreases horsepower, lowers combustion temp by this reduces NOx formation and acts as cheep octane booster on engines with compression ratio around 10 (only at part throttle).
Al

[gmeast]

what kind of answer do you want?

Hi Greg
Byproducts of combustion are: unburned hydrocarbons, mostly water and small amounts of carbon monoxide/dioxide and nitrous oxide. Mainly Nitrogen and steam are pushing the piston. For every 14.7 lbs of Air and 1lb of gasoline car exhaust has about 11lbs of Nitrogen (.78x14.7) and about 1lb of water.
What is the relative humidity in the car’s exhaust?
“The humidity in the air plays a much bigger role than combustion by-products.” Humidity dilutes Air/Fuel ratio and decreases horsepower, lowers combustion temp by this reduces NOx formation and acts as cheep octane booster on engines with compression ratio around 10 (only at part throttle).
Al

What I've shared with you is covered in the first semester of thermodynamics both in high school and junior college. But I'll go ahead and humor you anyway.

"An internal combustion engine is actually a steam engine in disguise"

All internal combustion engines run at their optimum on a cool, humid day.

I'm done

P.S. Anyone discussing the Water Spark Plug anymore? Oh by the way if anybody has built that neat oscillator I posted for use with my VexUs circuit, I discovered that you don't need to use electrolytic caps in the oscillator. You can use Mylar or any non-polarized caps. I used 1uF Mylar caps with total success. Thought I'd share. Oh and I've complete the mods to my engine for more steam 'ingestion' and should derive even greater thermodynamic benefit than I did with the drip system. Also, I'll be posting a video of a silver Firestorm replica under compression pressure with high humidity fired by the VexUs Hybrid CDI Plasma circuit.

Later

[jamiec]

Thanks Greg looking forward to the video

[Ozicell]

Out of the dark

Hi guys,

Well I guess you have all been wondering where I am and what has been happening. In short - nothing! Sorry for that.

The long story - When I last contacted Ash, I was having problems with the jig that I used to drill the holes in the plug jacket to house the cage arms. I just could not get the precision right. So I had nothing to send him. At the time it was Nov - Dec which is when I am flat out at work so I shelved it until after Christmas. At that time I found that my latest attempt was also useless and then all engineering firms were closed until mid Jan. So I had nothing. Now mid March I finally have found a firm who, rather than make me yet another jig, have suggested that it be done on a computerized milling machine. The owner seems quite confident of the outcome but as yet, I still don't have any plugs.

Rosco, I now have electronic ignition in the Mazda and a HV coil. I have lost your number so if you still have my number, could you please call me as I have a couple of questions that you may be able to help me with.

BTW My mechanic, who is an Ex Speed car driver, is going to do a baseline on the dyno with STD plugs, then pull them, install the Ball plugs and re-test. This should provide definitive results. He has advised me that he is the eternal skeptic and doesn't believe that we will see a useful difference.

I guess we'll see but first - I still need my set of plugs and I promise I WILL keep you guys in the loop!

Cheers
Ozi

PS. I have not kept up with the progress here but from the little browse I just did, it seems plenty has been happening. So I have to ask - are my ball plugs even still relevant?

[aljhoa]

Distributorless Ignition

Distributor arcing simply eliminates ignition coil per cylinder using several sensors of opto-electric ignition system and couple (for dual ignition before and after TDC) of slotted plastic discs inside distributor cap.
Typical 1500-psi pressure (point load quickly dissipating) in a cylinder for maximum load , full throttle and optimum rpm is much smaller at part throttle; assume 15psi per degree (1500 / 90deg).
Having in the cylinder: optimum Nitrogen, “Relative Humidity”/steam and 32 (160/5deg) plasma supersonic pulses/waves starting at 10deg After Top Dead Center,
what would be effective supersonic torque as opposed to pressure torque produced by Nitrogen and Steam?
Al

[handyandy]

TC spark plug

Hi all,

I just watched this video on youtube.com:

YouTube - Micro DRSSTC

purportedly the smallest tesla coil ever made. What if it was even smaller? Hmmm...

Regards,
Andy

[dingo]

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Thought I'd share. Oh and I've complete the mods to my engine for more steam 'ingestion' and should derive even greater thermodynamic benefit than I did with the drip system. Also, I'll be posting a video of a silver Firestorm replica under compression pressure with high humidity fired by the VexUs Hybrid CDI Plasma circuit.

Later

silly question perhaps..but how do you 'turn on' the drip system from the driver seat ? I have an aircooled VW and trying to implement your steam device...or have you upgraded from drip system to something better ?

Thx
D.

[rosco1]

Heads up people.

Anyone following this thread would be wise to check out this older thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post49359

Exciting discoveries are being made.

[str8lion]

3 secrets

hey all....

this is a long story so ill make it short ..i have a hydrogen generator that i was working on.. till i figured out its all about the water sparkplug ..anyways last year i had the privalige to talk to a man that helped stan meyers on the the water sparkplug....he basically laughed at every body on the internet trying to reproduce it .. because he said "theyll never figure it out"...he said there are three secrets they will never figure out...i thought he was talking about the hydrogen generator but the secrets didnt fit for it .. anyways this guy is a piece of sh...t for keeping this kind of info hidden that why his friend {stan} got smoked..anyway here's the scoop..#1 his sparkplug was made of 304 stainless steel and the tips were coated with palladium...#2 the voltage he used was 16,000 volts , how did he get that voltage..#3 he said ...hand wound capacitors ... now heres the tricky part was he talking about that 430fr wire or what ..dont know .. i aint no genius..or was he talking bout the bifilar charging coil {choke}....

[mstanner]

Hi Greg

Yes, I built your 12 Volt to 300 volt converter if thats what you mean.
For some reason I am get 500 Volts with no load. I am using cap's form a throw away camer untill I can get some old microwaves from the junk yard.
I have not tried this in the Vexus ciruit yet, do not thing the cap's will hold up!


Mike

[gmeast]

the drip

silly question perhaps..but how do you 'turn on' the drip system from the driver seat ? I have an aircooled VW and trying to implement your steam device...or have you upgraded from drip system to something better ?

Thx
D.

Up until now I just opened the engine compartment and and turn a needle valve until it drips about 3 drops every 2 seconds or so then take a ride. Not very scientific but it showed me the value of the extreme humidity in my first tests.

Now I have a small peristaltic pump with speed adjustment ... that's almost installed. It has a speed adjustment pot that can be made remote for the driver.

The economy slowed me up again so I'm presently stalled once more.

Greg

[dllabarre]

looking for a similar pump

Now I have a small peristaltic pump with speed adjustment ... that's almost installed. It has a speed adjustment pot that can be made remote for the driver.

Greg

Hi Gregg

I'm looking for a similar pump for a similar idea for my 5.5HP BS engine.
Can you tell me where you got your pump and/or what is the make and model?

Thanks
DonL

[zzz]

Hi greg,
I just wander that can I use exhaust to be intake like geet or EGR system,
Cuz now I use VexUs but not steam inject, not significantly change in fuel consumption, but i recirculate small exhaust to intake like egr system. i always saw water drop in this line, so this i think i will increase exhaust/air ratio to add more steam but steem from itself not from water drop.
my qusetion is i need to know your ratio of steam that you get better millage, that i can convert back to exhaust/air ratio. if i pass this exhaust to water bubble tank it will be sat.vapor like geet system but at first let's try to use itself... that's my idea,
sorry for my bad english language,
thanks,
zzz

[ashtweth]

Wonder is Greg's Bug should be a GEET WITH the vexus... maybe that would be a better use of the vexus plug circuit? Only saying as the GEET gas (WATER filled)fires in the center apparently.. hmmmmmmm thats ONE way to do it i guess...


Ash

[gmeast]

pump

Hi Gregg

I'm looking for a similar pump for a similar idea for my 5.5HP BS engine.
Can you tell me where you got your pump and/or what is the make and model?

Thanks
DonL

Hi Don,

I got mine from McMaster Carr. Actually I got two ... a micro flow and a mid-range flow.
p/n 4049k66:microflow, 0 - 3.12 gal/day
p/n 4049k77:microflow, 0.15 - 32.33 gal/day

You have to calibrate them. I searched and searched for a 12 VDC unit but most of those were emergency medical devices costing sometimes thousands $$$. The ones above can run on a 9 V battery (comes with 9 V clip and jack). You can get a jack and wire your car battery to it ... or cannibalize the 9 V jack supplied.

They cost $110 or so when I bought them. They are NOT the best devices. They are bottom of the line devices so as I said you need to calibrate them and make sure the voltage to them is pretty constant.

If someone has a line on better ones for the $$$s I certainly would also be interested.

Well, there ya' go,

Greg