Water Sparkplug

[Robert E.]

Plasma plugs

Up until now I just opened the engine compartment and and turn a needle valve until it drips about 3 drops every 2 seconds or so then take a ride. Not very scientific but it showed me the value of the extreme humidity in my first tests.

Now I have a small peristaltic pump with speed adjustment ... that's almost installed. It has a speed adjustment pot that can be made remote for the driver.

The economy slowed me up again so I'm presently stalled once more.

Greg

Greg and all, I need to tell you where I'm at with my Plasma plugs and Kiker wires. My 1988 Dodge Raider 4 cys 2.6 lit engine had a bad carb so I replaced it with a Weber conversion. There is no electronic control on this carb and you can change the primary and secondary jets from the outside. I got the mpg from 15, (running full rich), to 20 mpg. The ball plugs only give me about 1 mpg better. I put in smaller jets and got the mpg up to 23 mpg. I put in the kiker wires and still got 23 mpg???
Right now it looks like the only way to take advantage of the ball plugs and Kiker wires is to lean the engine more. Remember I was running plasma for 25 miles and burnt up one of the four of my ball plugs and got no better gas mileage???? The other three was showing destress also. Of course I was driving my plugs way to hard but it made no difference on my mileage. Greg How are you getting what your getting? What are you doing that I might try also? Please advise. Bob

[Shane Jackson]

Are you doing any water injection?

[Shane Jackson]

I have my Board all wired up and installed. Should I do a video of it running???



Cutting the hole for the plug was a real PIA! Next time I am just going to drill a hole and use a rubber grommet.

[Jetijs]

Should I do a video of it running???

Sure, I would love to see that

Robert E., do you use a steam injection in your setup? Because Greg does and the great results were achieved using plasma spark + steam injection combo
Plasma spark alone, at least in my experiments, gave me only 7% economy, but with hot steam it is a whole different story
Good luck!

[Xack]

Anxious to hear about Greg's Steam progress

Greg,
How is the progress on your newest steam injector? Do you think you'll have a post soon?

Thanks,
Xack

[gmeast]

post

Greg,
How is the progress on your newest steam injector? Do you think you'll have a post soon?

Thanks,
Xack

Hi Xack,

Well, I'm pretty much burned out on this stuff ... and broke. Someone called 'aquapulser' has created a production-looking version of all of this. At least I can finally justify NOT spending any more time or money on this stuff.

[Ozicell]

aquapulser

I was wondering when someone was going to post about this.

YouTube - Plasma Spark I

I will be interested to see the long term effects on both plug and chamber using one of these.

BTW, some time ago, someone posted a circuit in bench operation which was producing the plasma spark accompanied by loud snaps! Duringt the test, they change something, they still got the plasma spark but it was silent! I think they then pursued the loud snap direction. Does anyone know which of the videos this was and which circuit was used?

Cheers
Ozi

[gotoluc]

I was wondering when someone was going to post about this.

YouTube - Plasma Spark I

I will be interested to see the long term effects on both plug and chamber using one of these.

BTW, some time ago, someone posted a circuit in bench operation which was producing the plasma spark accompanied by loud snaps! Duringt the test, they change something, they still got the plasma spark but it was silent! I think they then pursued the loud snap direction. Does anyone know which of the videos this was and which circuit was used?

Cheers
Ozi

Hi Ozi,

I didn't know anything about the Aquapulser project until they posted links to their videos a couple of days ago at the Overunity Topic:

URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

About the silent spark and still showing effect with water was a discovery made by Aaron: YouTube - Water Sparkplug | Plasma Ignition | With current restriction I also tried it with a choke coil and got the same results.

Cheers mate

Luc

[Ozicell]

Hi Luc,

Thanks for that, I don't think it was the video that I remembered but still shows the principle. In the video that I remember the researcher discovered it by accident and wasn't sure what was causing the effect. Aarons video explains the effect which is even better.

Cheers and thanks again
Ozi

[sucahyo]

Please forgive me if this already mentioned before:
Coats & Schauberger - The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature, page 57(44)

If specifically heavy high-quality water is atomised and the resultant watervapour is compressed by a descending piston with a simultaneous infusion of atmospheric oxygen, then this aqueous mixture of air is instantaneously transformed into increased and highly potentiated stocks of new air. The expansive pressure produced in this way corresponds to the power of about 2,000 atmospheres per litre of water.

Just wondering if anyone ever try to use the mist of spiralling water.

[Robert E.]

Water injection

Sure, I would love to see that

Robert E., do you use a steam injection in your setup? Because Greg does and the great results were achieved using plasma spark + steam injection combo
Plasma spark alone, at least in my experiments, gave me only 7% economy, but with hot steam it is a whole different story
Good luck!

No Jetijs, I was going to try that next. I also remember Greg saying he set the timing close to top dead center, I believe. I Wonder with the much hotter spark If the timing being set normal for gas if maybe we aren't getting some more firing and burning before TDC??? thereby loosing some power. I could easly change the timing to see if this may be happening. Does this make any since?? Bob

[gotoluc]

No Jetijs, I was going to try that next. I also remember Greg saying he set the timing close to top dead center, I believe. I Wonder with the much hotter spark If the timing being set normal for gas if maybe we aren't getting some more firing and burning before TDC??? thereby loosing some power. I could easly change the timing to see if this may be happening. Does this make any since?? Bob

Hi Bob,

I would try to bring the timing closer to TDC or at TDC if it performs well there. The main reason timing is advanced on cars is the fuel energy is delayed from the spark. However the plasma spark maybe faster at converting the fuel energy so one should definitely be testing different timing positions and bring it all the way to TDC if it gives best economy. Leaving it stock you may not see any benefits while using the plasma spark or even losses as it will somewhat stall the piston movement if the fuel energy is before TDC.

You may also need to lock the timing advance mechanism.

Let us know of your result once you change things.

Luc

[aljhoa]

Hi Bob,

I would try to bring the timing closer to TDC or at TDC if it performs well there. The main reason timing is advanced on cars is the fuel energy is delayed from the spark. However the plasma spark maybe faster at converting the fuel energy so one should definitely be testing different timing positions and bring it all the way to TDC if it gives best economy. Leaving it stock you may not see any benefits while using the plasma spark or even losses as it will somewhat stall the piston movement if the fuel energy is before TDC.

You may also need to lock the timing advance mechanism.

Let us know of your result once you change things.

Luc

Rich A/F mixture burs fast so old cars mechanical advance was set around 15deg.
Lean mixtures burn slow thus computerized ignition system produce spark up to 60deg BTDC.
Maximum cylinder pressure is obtained at TDC by heating the Nitrogen and Steam, a byproduct of combustion.
It is hard to control the burning process therefore, to take the advantage of heat produced by the plasma-steam at least two ignition points are required, One for the normal A/F ratio and Second at TDC (additional heat).
To take advantage of Pulse Detonation (interaction of water and plasma) ignition is required ATDC so that the Crank-Shaft- Rod geometry is not opposing supersonic pulse load.
Al

[Shane Jackson]

As promised here is a short video with crappy audio.

YouTube - Vexus Plasma Spark.

If you are wondering.... Lysol. I think part of the problem is I did not have the plug grounded very well. All my vice grips are in my spray foam truck.... I may do another video when my new plugs arrive.

[gmeast]

milage

Hi all,

Well I turned OFF my Vexus System, kept the water drip steam ingestion, stayed with my 1/2-step-down main fuel jet size, ran on my .080 gap Robin David nickel Firestorm plug replicas.

Engine gets warm so I need more steam. As you know from my videos, the Firestorm plugs generate their own plasma-looking spark under pressure.

40.5 MPG

Greg