Have i found the key to Stan Meyers Design???

[dynamite]

Disclaimer: well in an insomniatic state my brain seems to go to mushy mode. this helps me think about whats hapening is the simplest terms, sometime it makes me think utter garbage!!!!!

BUT!!!!

i guess i am right thinking that most of us are working in 12-14v for ease of vehicle intergration.
i was completely hung up on the idea of stan using an alternator on his bench top as part of the power source.
in the raw video of him first starting the VW on HHO there is a grey object beside the WFC, is this the motor/alternator combo?
in the news footage video you can see the same setup bolted to the side of the car.

how could this be possible? is stan using an inverter to run the motor and complete HHO setup? i think so.

Look at the video from the BBC (i think that who did it) where stan shows his demo cell, see the big black knob on his big back box he wouldn't let anyone see in?
look back at the news clip, same black knob on a shiny new bgger white box?
one of the plans i have seen tonight also mentions that the motor hooked up to the alternator in constant speed, if the alternator was driven by the motor on the vehicle it wouldn't be constant speed.

i got a full schematic off the "International Independent Test Evaluation Report.pdf"
this is for his test bed admittedly, but it has genuine meyers circuits!!!!

i am still a little confused about a few things, and where some parts fit in to others.

YouTube - Stanley Meyer look beside the cell at 3:20
YouTube - Stan Meyer - Water Fuel Cell look at the side of the car at 0:25, and the white box at 0:29, even beside the white box, 110v motor again at 0:49.
there is a blue motor looking object on the other side, perhaps an engine driven 110v generator????

More:
after re-looking at the new video, the white box is mounted between the seats facing forward, with beside the blue object, i'm guessing is a 110v generator.

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ForumPD...n%20Report.pdf
International Independent Test Evaluation Report.pdf
please right click on the above link and click save target as.
it's 88MB and takes a hell of a long time to load, best just to download it once and look at it easily

[aether22]

Generators, alternators output an aetheric current that can pull in EM from local and maybe even more distance loose coupled EM fields.

Not all sources of electric current include an appreciable aetheric component.
You can't replicate Tesla's effects without a generator for instance.

[jibbguy]

Great find!

Fascinating reading... Interesting additions, by whomever compiled this thing.. Of the Graneau stuff, and some other theoretical additions, but that many would agree are rubbish when it relates to Meyer's work

Man i wish those photos showing the buggy's engine compartment in 92 were clear!!

Lol, the "Treaty of Taco Bell"

So Meyers was working on some sort of water pulse jet unit called "Hyperdrive" ? Interesting. I'm constantly amazed at all he was in to... This is possibly significant , if we try to follow his lines of thinking, his "trail" of invention... Then does it lead to something using plasma arc explosion of water? ... As perhaps what he thought was the most important path to pursue? Just throwing that out there.

[Aaron]

plasma arc

His first patent is plasma arc between rods to make water gas under water.

[aperry0501]

work in progress

hello everyone, I am currently working on modifying a motorcraft alternator for my hydrogen setup. I have taken the old windings out, made a winder, and re-wrapped with smaller gauge and 4x as many turns to see if I can get higher voltage output instead of amprage. I have to work this weekend... but will post my findings in a couple of days.

[aperry0501]

I finally reassembled the alternator with the 26awg 20 turns windings. Rigged up a test fixture and run for several min. This alt originally had 18 awg wire on it and was the external regulator type. Any way the output voltage was 19 volts with direct 12.3 vdc from batt. The alt only has three of the six diodes that originally came with it. Today I will try and get some heavier gage wire like 16 and re wrap it with less turns. It seems to generate alot of heat when not even running it over 1500 rpm. I'm guessing the higher resistance in the smaller wire created even more heat. So logically going the other way with the wire size may be logical?
I was reading another article where a pwm controller was used to pulse the rotor voltage. I also tested several frequency configurations but wasn't able to get the same results as the other member was. Probably because of the higher resistance.

Any suggestions and or comments welcome!

[hhoexclusive]

using a pwm to pulse the rotor is key i run mine at 7000rpm and it gets warm but stablises at around 50C it also spits out a handy 36-38 volts with no mods to the windings apart from pulling the phases out with single wires with blocking diodes to the cell and setting up the neutral wire. easy stuff took me 15 minutes to mod my alternator. i use a exact replica of meyers pwm they have been popping up on ebay recently though i made mine.