GEET | Paul Pantone

[Jules Tresor]

Water level ?

Hi all, my friend in Cambodia who is manufacturing small scale a kind of SPAD/Gilliers-Pantone device, is asking me where to find the "constant water level" as seen in SPAD brochure: (he got 40% savings on 200HP fix engines, and is making trials on 450HP engines energy is very important for local agricultural and small industrial sector)



picture available also in Panacea's file : http://www.panaceauniversity.org/GEE...20procesor.pdf

I can't find a source for this part in France where the SPAD is built

Do anyone know where to find that on internet ? I have tried alibaba.com without success.

PS: Ashtweth, I just tried to access your page http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/geet.htm and the link is not working for me.

[eternalightwithin]

That looks like two pieces there.

1. A reducing "T" with the 3rd port at 1/4 ? The other two could be 1" , 3/4" or 1/2"

2. The end part looks like a 1/2" (3/4"?) NPT forged brass adapter.

[tagor]

Hi all, my friend in Cambodia who is manufacturing small scale a kind of SPAD/Gilliers-Pantone device, is asking me where to find the "constant water level"

you can ask to Andre on this french forum
Besoin de conseil pour montage gillier-pantone essence : Expérimentations de moteurs Pantone - Page 3

do you need to translate your question ? ( I dont know if he speak english , but he is from canada )

[Jules Tresor]

@tagor,
thanks, I'll go and ask on this forum !
The guy that created the econologie.com website is the engineer that used the GEET study to make his thesis in 2001
Synthèse C. Martz Version Anglaise

Now he is selling goods on his website.

I was born in France so I have no problem with their language

[ashtweth]

Hi David /ALL

Now for 450 HP you need a special type of SPAD for that, (with 4 reactors) ill get details to you David ASAP. Thanks for the report, page is down will be up tomorrow

[Jules Tresor]

Thanks Ash, waiting for your files

You know that guy is already building 4 reactors SPAD.
He is very smart but it's hard to find specific parts in Cambodia, everything has to be imported at high price, petrol also, that's why everybody want a SPAD when they hear about

His first realization 6 months ago, to test if it was genuine:



He got 40% saving on this genset, and now he is a believer

and he has many people interested, industrials, he is thinking about leaving his engineering job, a very good situation there, to build SPADs full time

[ashtweth]

okay my good friend, we need to tune the governor, ill scan some pages and get to you . Ps, GEET page is back up...thank you for the heads up David you are humanities good friend.

Ash

[Jules Tresor]

4 reactors

All I had about 4 reactors Spad was those screen shots I made from HYPNOW video, I sent them to him a while back. Good if you have more data

[Jules Tresor]

SPAD on 400HP engine

I received the latest pictures from Cambodia.
He installed 4 reactors, in 2 Spads. The engine is above 400 HP



The water temperature is very low, around 45 C.
I think he got the heat for the water by close proximity of a small heat exchange module, and the water tanks are far from the exhaust ...
I will tell him that he should try to put the reactors and the water tanks closer to the engine exhaust exits.

Anyway that's a great work so far, congratulation

[Jules Tresor]

Suggestion

I suggested him to bring the reactors and tanks closer to the engine.
Of course it is a much harder job to do, but it should improve the performances

[ashtweth]

David your a very underrated open source un sung hero, many donations you have done have enabled people and Panacea to progress, your up there man, the world will know soon enough .. Trust me on that.
Now ill get a 4 reactor unit here and test it for you, YES, your right put SPAD closest to the heat exchange, that's all there is to master.

1) you need good engine vacuum for gas propagation and reaction
2) you need heat exchange for strongest reaction

nothing more to know about SPAD BRO.

Ash

[Jules Tresor]

Hi Ash
This engine runs at 46% only. So the vacuum is low.
I suggested him to put only 2 reactors, not 4
or to reduce reactor size ...

I told him to look for engines that run at 70% or more, to be sure to get large fuel saving and not be desappointed.

He got 30-40% savings on excavator. I suggested him to continue with this kind of small and easy engines, until he will be very skilled in the art, and then he will be able to handle bigger installations.

But you know how it is, you start small, you success and then you want ot go BIIIIG immediately

I hope I will go and see him by the end of the year. He his a great man, he is working for an NGO building machines to clean the lands from personal mines from the Red Khmer era ...
They have a lot of work but they are very courageous and kind people

[ashtweth]

Oil Spill Solution, Geet

NBC shows OIL SPILL SOLUTION, GEET
YouTube - NBC shows OIL SPILL SOLUTION, GEET


The theory with the GEET is that the Salt acts as electrolyte in the water and the REACTION reforms the salt water into a synthetic gas, so if you get a good reaction and the salt water vapors get consumed with the SELF GENERATING PLASMA (hence why there is less Carbon coming out than in) then theoretically you could use salt water.

But chances are some will get in there(poor reaction). I dont recommend using salt water, as if you dont build your reactor right and you just vaporize the salt(most dont build the GEET properly and just have a vaporizer), the fumes will ruin your engine.

What i would recommend some one use if they had to use crude and salt water is the GEET furnace, as you have a vacuum pump and hot furnace that is likely to react the best and not let any fumes in where they can ruin pistons and engines etc.

You could then store or use the synthetic GEET gas even in your car, or for
heating etc and have no risk of your engine (salt going in). Here is the GEET Furnace we are still building ATM

Imageshack - dsc00023dq.jpg
(run by vacuum pump)

Dont forget they already made water and fuel into a synthetic GEET plasma gas. You could do that with the gulf spill stuff EASY.

YouTube - Plasma burner

It's a Shame about the NBC presentation, not only poor craftsmanship is ruining it, but also the CONFIGURATION and delivery. I guess they work on limited budget, but if they present the GEET that way they have to show it [and tell it] as it is. Proof of principle only and WE WORK ON NO BUDGET.

YouTube - TheGeetGuys We can clean up the Gulf. BP said NO!
(another better presentation but bad configuration)

You cannot run at factory using the GEET bubbler,(never meant to be) AS THE AIR FUEL RATIO CHANGES (DUE TO THE FUEL LEVEL IN THE BUBBLER GOING DOWN AND LETTING MORE AIR IN) AND SO YOU NEED TO STAND THERE AND ACT AS A HUMAN CARBY, AND CHANGE KNOBS ALL DAY.

Yes i know its only a proof of principle, but it needs to be shown that way, thats not a working COMPLETE GEET, same as the video, if he loads that he would not be able to walk away running at factory LOADED.

But Ash, they work on no budget and it is a proof of principle only.
WELL WE HAVE TO AT LEAST MENTION THIS .


Ash

[shawn]

Multi-fuel engines from the early 1900's which had no electrical components needed.
They could burn most any kind of fuel mix.
Some of the engines pictured have video clips of them running.
Interesting.
Category: Stationary Hot Bulb Engines

[Vickers]

Multi-fuel engines from the early 1900's which had no electrical components needed.
They could burn most any kind of fuel mix.
Some of the engines pictured have video clips of them running.
Interesting.
Category: Stationary Hot Bulb Engines

Good post Shaun.
I have seen a collection of these kind of engines at a vintage automobile event. All of them running. Must admit they were more suited as a stationary engine as most were connected to old pumps and generators. They run at low rpm but have heaps of torque. One was powering a portable sawmill over 100 years old.
These engines run clean. The old guy who owned them had one running on old filtered waste engine oil. But most were on vege oil.
No smoke at all. Just a slight smell of that eye watering methanol that u get at a race track or from a model airplane engine.
Might be easy to mod a newer engine, not sure. I look into it soon. Unless you got a heads up on this. Save me the trouble.