GEET | Paul Pantone

[tagor]

I have stated that the Ecorpa and Nano measurements are the best we could come up with, with out destroying them, there are no dimension of the inside i know of, but the document gives a basis on what to go on, they (nano and ecopra) are still not as efficient as the system in the document i posted. That has all you need to build a water doping unit.

Ash

Hi Ash
on OU.com , tommey reed is claiming pantone is a scam

I think it is necessary to do something with this slandering claim


CORN BOILER

PROVE IT...
Like the rest of the geet idiots, no geet to enter a challenge...
I'm calling you out, enter the geet challenge and show your plasma coming out of you ass.
Pantone would not enter this challenge, because he is a scam!
I even sent him a letter:

Mr. Pantone,


My name is Tommey Reed, I've seen your claims of the Geet system.
I am willing to challenge your claims:

The challenge is very simple, buy a cheap 1200w (walmart) generator

YouTube - OverUnityNow1's Channel

Buy a home depot 500w spot light...

Buy a Harbor Freight watts meter..

Very simple test, this will allow no cheating to take place.

Running the engine at 3600-3700 rpm's will power the spot light with a load of 500W

Use the carb first, and run it with 60g of 87 octane gas for 5 minutes, then check how many grams are left. This will have a constant pull of about 500w with the governor control.

YouTube - OverUnityNow1's Channel

Next, take off the carb and in stall your Geet system. Use 400g of 87 octane, run at 3600-3700 rpm's for 5 minute. After this calculated how many grams are left...

Your claim of pickel joice and window cleaner is no different then this:
YouTube - OverUnityNow1's Channel

What happen to GOD's work?
$2,500.00 for a week class of Geet?

I believe your a scam, Prove me wrong!

[ashtweth]

Hi tagor thanks for posting my friend, some others did send some info to him, unfortunately he does not want to build the reactor properly and wont listen, so we have to just spend time on teaching others the proper way to do it. You should hear from MY camp in Jan some time regarding a new replication, we could also try again to use this to make him build it properly.

Ash

[Cloxxki]

Tommey has accepted fault before. If you buy the same POS generator he has, and attached a properly built GEET reactor, and post results, he will be a great man to have on board.
Where reports say that school kids can get GEET to perform, a great builder apparently cannot.
His challenge, when taken up, might well be the next level in GEET acceptance. Not because the holy Tommey Reed now also sees it, but because an outspoken critic needs to eat his own words.
I am not religious myself, but if I'm to encounter a bunch of angels telling me great truths and offering me the advice for a lifetime, I'm going to believe in angels. Some just need to see. Tommey saught, and didn't find.
No-one is obliged to take up Tommey's challenge, especially not with some of the words he chose to put on Youtube, but now that he and the challenge are there, I truly believe it would be great if a GEET guru would take him up on it.
Look at Tommey's other work, he really is a good one to have on board.

[ashtweth]

Nope , he didn't build the GEET right. I happen to know what he is doing wrong, but its not worth my while telling him, we already sent him the info to check on. If you follow his build expect the same results.

[Cloxxki]

Funny that probably everyone expected him to do it wrong, and he sure was expected to be told wrong.
The doubt is now out there though, it would be good to document the pro-GEETs vision to this in every place where Tommey's doubts were posted, just as a counterbalance.

[ashtweth]

Cloxxi read my post to tagar

"Hi tagor thanks for posting my friend, some others did send some info to him, unfortunately he does not want to build the reactor properly and wont listen, so we have to just spend time on teaching others the proper way to do it. You should hear from MY camp in Jan some time regarding a new replication, we could also try again to use this to make him build it properly."

Please read it twice.

Ash

[tagor]

Funny that probably everyone expected him to do it wrong, and he sure was expected to be told wrong.
The doubt is now out there though, it would be good to document the pro-GEETs vision to this in every place where Tommey's doubts were posted, just as a counterbalance.

hello

here ,my answer :

Paul Pantone est il réellement un escroc ?


Merry Christmas all

daniel

[tagor]

Funny that probably everyone expected him to do it wrong, and he sure was expected to be told wrong.
The doubt is now out there though, it would be good to document the pro-GEETs vision to this in every place where Tommey's doubts were posted, just as a counterbalance.

Thanks for the Naudin link, I as many am a fan for his work.

He however didn't seem to mention how long the mower could operate, with load (cutting grass) on the 75 water/25 gas mixture. I've tried to read up on GEET, and must agree with Tommey that it's hard to find good data. If someone tells me the exhaust is clean, I will just believe that, because I believe in the good of men.
It's hard to tell from (I admittedly just skimmed it) Naudin's GEET page whether the 3 parts water added to the economy of the engine without this water. Even if the water was "used" up nicely, which it doesn't in Tommey's tests, was it really used for making the engine run better?

How much of a difference should the north/south orientation of the reactor matter? Difference between working and not working, or just a percentile of performance? The former wouldn't help on cars, I can see that.

Thanks,
J

this was 10 years ago !!
an old test from J l naudin

jean louis is a good experimentator but ...
i know people who had bad experience with him

for ex :
for his VSG , he claims OU
but
without a doubt , it is not OU
on the vallee forum , he go away , he never answer !!

so

for good doc in english , ask to Ash

[Cloxxki]

Ash was so kind to comment on Tommey's GEET video's earlier, and I think has emailed him to point out any mistakes he suspected in his setup. It seems Ash wants to leave it there, what Tommey is concerned.
Folks like you, Tagor, are infuriated by Tommey's ignoring of well-documented French research. Folks like me, just want to know what to believe. If you're on a tall bridhe and don't know which pool has the wodka, and which the water, it's hard to commit which one to jump into.
The Wodka bath would be awesome in a way, eyes safely closed of course, but drowning would be a given (density = 0.92g/cm3).

So, was it the lack of magnetic pole orientation that made Tommey's device fail? Was the reactor too cold? What temp IS good?
I've seen many GEET vids, and he just seems to have done a nice build. He is however the first I see, making video of actual consumption. He made a real effort to be precise, and did his experiments over, when I mentioned he might want to weigh the fuel rather than take volume measurement.
Tommey speaks soon and loud, but he seems sincere.

GEET has wonderful endorsements, and drama to it.
Tommey is a great builder, and can't get it to work.
A or B. People want to know. Doubt needs to be addressed.
Tommey would be a great builder to have among the GEET endorsements.

[tagor]

So, was it the lack of magnetic pole orientation that made Tommey's device fail? Was the reactor too cold? What temp IS good?.

magnetic pole orientation is a bull****

for the old gillier-pantone the lenght was too big
the new one is very short

you need short connexion like electronic

but I am not a specialist !!

the temp is very well documented in french
Ash , what happen with the english one ?

I give you the good reference in french , ask for translation


in the french forum , it is a french canadian who give instruction
but i dont know if he speak english

[ashtweth]

Guys David Pantone will be at my house in Jan and we will be creating the GEET school,(Non profit from Panacea) dont worry ill get all tests and data posted here, don't worry about nay sayers for now .

Ash

[sucahyo]

Guys David Pantone will be at my house in Jan and we will be creating the GEET school,(Non profit from Panacea) dont worry ill get all tests and data posted here, don't worry about nay sayers for now .

Ash

Wow . Look forward for the results .

[tagor]

Guys David Pantone will be at my house in Jan and we will be creating the GEET school,(Non profit from Panacea) dont worry ill get all tests and data posted here, don't worry about nay sayers for now .

Ash

Hi , Ash

very good
we are waiting for your data

very good experience for 2010

Ash

This is a Senior Member?

This guy can't even join the challenge?
Teachers are those that back up with data, "so we have to just spend time on teaching others the proper way to do it." you call this a TEACHER?
Real teacher show data like in mathematics...This guy is a big joke...

Ash, I want to challenge you, being a teacher in Geet you should have no problem making me eat my words....

The challenge is on?

Tommey Reed..

very very bad boy this tommey


happy new year

[dave_cahoon]

The person is so incorrect on so many facts, where do ya start with someone like it?

I stopped watching when it said "carbon monoxide will poison the gasoline"

I suspect he is paid to be an idiot. And he is doing a great job.

Dave

[Cloxxki]

The person is so incorrect on so many facts, where do ya start with someone like it?

I stopped watching when it said "carbon monoxide will poison the gasoline"

I suspect he is paid to be an idiot. And he is doing a great job.

Dave

I think he's SO used to figuring out things by himself, that he's un-learned or never even learned, to build off other people's research. And he's not easy to change his mind. For long, he was sure he had like 600% efficiency from his back EMF capturing circuit, it took the forum long to proove him otherwise.
I'm sure Tommey means well. His inventions such as the engines, to me seem extremely promising if they can be made to work.
With GEET, I tend to trust the GEET camp, although I do find it extremely difficult to get the kind of data that Tommey was lookin for himself.
Thus, Ash's work with the Pantones themselves, I really look forward to.

If anything, Tommey's video's should inspire the kind of data logging required to get GEET on a global map. Get licencee candidates on board. Bring it to the people, and THEN make significant exhaust toxins and fuel economy improvement, on a global scale. If the claims are even half-true, there is a great responsibility to make it to work, for everyone, even the loudest sceptics.
Tommey has accepted fault with this OU circuit, and I'm sure he'll accept fault once he is presented with data that meets the standards he puts upon himself.

Let's be honest, stubbernness is the mindset that joins most OU researchers. Some see OU everywhere, some are sure it just cannot be done with inventions to date.