Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

The VIC Transformer

One thing I am not sure people ever noticed about the VIC coil is that Stanley Meyer made two different types that did different jobs.

Taken from the SMTB:
Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-22) (Memo WFC 422 DA) as to Figure (1-1)
(Memo WFC 420) and Voltage Intensifier Circuit (620) of Figure (7-1) are specifically designed to
restrict amp flow during Programmable Pulsing Operations (49a xxx 49n) but in different
operational modes: VIC voltage circuit (60) utilizes copper wire-wrap to form Resonant Charging
Chokes (56/62) of Figure (3-22) in conjunction with Switching Diode (55) to encourage and make
use of "Electron Bounce" phenomena (700) of Figure (7-9) to help promote Step Charging Effect
(628) of Figure (7-7) by preventing electrical discharge of Resonant Cavity (140 - 170) since
Blocking Diode functions as an "Open" switch during Pulse Off-time; whereas, VIC Voltage
Enhancement Circuit (VIC - VB) (620) of Figure (7-1) incorporates the use of stainless steel wirewrap
coils (614/615) to accomplish the formation of unipolar gated pulse-wave (64a xxx T3 xxx
64n) without experiencing "signal distortion" or "signal degradation" (preventing transformer
ringing during signal propagation) as elevated voltage levels ( - xx Vc- xx Vd - xx Vn) while
allowing the reduction of Capacitor-Gap (Cp) (616) of Figure (7-11) width spacing (57 of Figure 3-
25 ~35 of Figure 6-2) (typically .060 - .010) respectively. as illustrated in Tubular Resonant Cavity
(170) as to Taper Resonant Cavity (620) of Figure (7-1).

The RED is VIC transformer number one and the BLUE is transformer number 2. They are used for different purposes. Transformer number one is made up of all copper wire, and transformer number two has 430FR SS wire for the dual layer chokes.

Now for the Gas Processor we want what Stanley Meyer calls, "Electron Bounce phenomena," and that VIC is made of all copper. These VIC transformers make their high voltages during switch off conditions or when the magnetic field is terminated and not the normal way that step up transformers employ. There are 42 coils that are going to make the high voltages by multipling each capcitive reactance to the next, Xc1 times Xc2 continuing the process on ending at Xc42 when the magnetic field is terminated. Why 42? The chokes are dual layered so 14 x 3 = 42. And since all coils are bifilar that number might be higher.

In order for the VIC transformer to work its best all coils must work as one or that is too say hit resonance at the same frequency. This can be done by varying the wire sizes in the bobbin cavities, since the primary will have the strongest magnetic field the inductance of the individual bobbin cavities should be made to match the primaries inductance. Now their is some debate as to match the series inductances of the secondary and resonante chokes to the primaries inductance, so more testing needs to be done to confirm which is more effecient.

Bi-directional wrap is making an X with the primary coils two layers or cross wrapped is another word for it.

Now I know this is going to make one guy I know very happy for he has been harping for the use of 430FR wire for some time now. But in Stanley Meyer's end product there is no WFC so no use of the second transformer. Stanley Meyer really cut the cost when he made the injectors, allowing the unstable oxygen atoms to break the water molecule down, and that satisfies the law of ecconomics. That saves a lot of money for there is no more quenching circuit, electrostatic filter, water fuel capacitor, 430FR SS wire, hybrid lazer distributer, and all the electronics that went along with them. And I think I might have left some out, big savings .

I hope this aids in everyones understanding of the VIC transformers.


h2opower.

[Guest]

H2O, who are you working for? Why do you never answer any professional questions?

Letīs drop this stupid debate asap and build 6-1 shall we? Why do you think the coil pics from the car show Fig. 6-1 H2O????! Because that is what Stan used in his car!!

H2O, your credibility is questionnable to say the least. We see pictures from Stanīs car VIC and still you try to turn peopleīs heads to other things. What is your real objective?

If you continue trying to mislead people I suggest you stop posting.

Do you seriously think two random words about "electron bounce" can take us to the conclusion that the first VIC; 3-22; is the best and to forget the pictures and all logics??!

"We want"(that means H2O and his secret allies wants you to waste alot of time on the old Cu/CU VIC - Fig. 3-22) looks like bad news to all experimenters and builders.

DO YOU NOT READ THE REST OF THE TEXT FROM STAN?

Well, it says the SS wire will enhance the voltage level(without shorting) and allow a smaller cap gap and give better longevity(resists higher temperatures etc) than the first VIC....

How about Fig 6-1, chapter 7.8, 9, 10 and 11 that Stan wrote later than chapter 3? Why is SS wire in every VIC there? Ever heard of Stubblefield and mixing Cu-Fe wires?

In case you forgot again I just explained how the ion engine worked and that Stan mislead people delaying the truth about his engine for 15 years at least. So I am not buying your personal conclusion from two random words in the WFC doc, sorry.


Then the "WFC" or the "Water Mist Cell" is irrelevant STILL AND AGAIN, Stan made some HHO inside water mist in the end - period, you can do it as well from a water bath but that is irrelevant for the experimenter!

Drop your eternal misleading repetitions.

Now you start talking about savings(so we can drop the crucial parts), that means you have finally accepted my theory of the ion engine?

For the builder, in case you donīt have the SS430F wire use a normal SS wire, there is no problem just more windings.

I am really getting tired of cleaning up after you H2O, hopefully all people by now realize what you are doing in here.

It is time for a new VIC 6-1 thread soon.

[chasson321]

Pct/us91/03476

Thanks h2opower!!!

For all who doubt its time you did your homework.

Patent PCT/US91/03476 would be a good place for everyone to start.

Notice how it begins in paragraph 2, 3 and 4. He cites his older patents,
4936961, 4826581 and co-pending patent serial no. 07/460859. Though these patents might hold some understanding to processes they are nonetheless old news.

Now read paragraph 5:

The invention of this present application represents a generational

improvement in the methods and apparatus useful in the utilization of

the water as a fuel source. In brief, the present invention is a

microminiatureized water fuel cell and permits the direct injection of

water, and its simultaneous transformation into a hydrogen containing fuel, in

a combustion zone, such as a cylinder in an internal combustion engine, a jet

engine, or furnace.


Page 7 of this patent also tells you what is put into the injector. Starting on line 10 In the zone(s), there is produced an "excited"... line 11 mixture of vaporized water mist, ionized gases and other line 12 non- combustible gases all of which have been instantaneously line 13 released from under high pressure.

Thanks again h2opower for showing us the next generation of water fuel.

[rdmwc]

well, thanx to h20power, i will have a working gas processor withing 2 months. i have ordered my parts, now im waiting for delivery. i will post my results and possibly pictures when its finished. i will not be using the VIC. I will be experimenting with an alternate source to see if the VIC is absolutely necessary.
many thanx goes to h20power for bringing this technology to our attention but not just handing it over. I have to say it is much better to be given the general concept or theory of the technology. this way it allows us to use our own brain! wow, just think, we actually get to use that thing on our shoulders!

[h20power]

Two types of VIC transformers

Hi Everyone,
The question came up did I read Stanley Meyer patents? The answer is yes, and I posted it without alteration of any of the words. The all copper VIC in which Stanley Meyer calls it, "VIC voltage circuit," is used for the Gas Processor for it is there that the, "Electron Bounce" phenomena is used.

The VIC used for the water fuel capacitor is called, "VIC Voltage
Enhancement Circuit" and it goes on to say it is used for the .060 - .010 inch gap of the water fuel capacitor.

This was taken from the SMTB, and no words where altered or changed in any fashion. But noticing that there are two types of VIC transformers I did and I shared that information with everyone.

The one thing I did in this thread is to show where the energy was truly coming from to power a 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min. For we all know that is impossible with just hho and hho alone. What wasn't taken into account was the job of the Gas Processor and just what was it doing. When I started this thread no one had even conciderd making the Gas Processor before in all the years after Stanley Meyers death it has never been talked about and/or built. I put science back in the game and did away with talks of magic, but was told that the math and science is meaningless by the same individuals that never even conciderd talking about the Gas Processor in all the years they have been worked on Stanley Meyer's technology.

I never ask for anything I just gave the technology away for all to have, for like Stanley Meyer I belive in the Bible too, and it says a great gift shall be given unto mankind. Ask yourself, do you pay for a gift that has been given to you? No. That is where Stanley Meyer and myself interpet the Bible differently. He was going to charge $1500 for the technology and I am charging nothing for it is meant to be a gift just as the Bible says it is to be. In all the time since the death of Stanley Meyer has anyone ever talked about there being two types of VIC transformers before or put sense too the use of the Gas Processor? No. I am not asking anyone for anything not a single dime.

But I am glade that many out there see the value in what I have done, and to them I say, enjoy breaking the chains of energy enslavement for we have lived this way for far too long.

Thanks everyone


h2opower.

[h20power]

Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Injectors

If you take a close look at this patent you will notice some odd things: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fule Injection System

One thing that I notice right off is the polarity of the injector itself. The outside is positive, and yet it bolts to the head of an engine which is grounded. So there is a mistake here, for that would just short out.

But if you look at other technologies the water injectors are more like the Kelvin water dropper set up than anything else. The injectors give the water molecule a negative charge by passing it through a positive voltage zone thus polarizing it just as Stanley Meyer says they do. But the voltage applied is much greater than that of a Kelvin water dropper YouTube - Lec 9 | MIT 6.013 Electromagnetics and Applications, Fall 20 and more like the voltages found in a Taylor cone or Electrospray New Objective : What is Electrospray?
By applying very high voltages to the water injectors the resulting water mist turns into a plume of ever decreasing size water droplets. Furthermore, electrically charged water droplets that resist coalescing into larger droplets, thereby permitting the water droplets to be mixed more thoroughly with the air.

Now these highly energized water droplets break down as they evaporate in the air and the voltage divides every time the water droplets splits into smaller water droplets. Table 1 shows just what is needed to explode water making it a fuel source. 1. Water mist. 2. Ionized Gas. 3. Non-Combustible Gas. The high voltage zone is polarizing the water and making it very unstable as a result of too much voltage. The charge is negative so when mixed with the ionized unstable oxygen atoms that has a positive charge the two are attracted to each other. The non-combustible gases are there to retard the reaction thus slowing the burn rate of hydrogen and also lowering the reactions temperature.

We all know that water is not combustible in our atmosphere, so what the Gas Processor and water injectors do is create an atmosphere in a controlled environment to one that water is combustible in.


Helping to break the oil addiction in the best way I know how,


h2opower.

[chub]

If you take a close look at this patent you will notice some odd things: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fule Injection System

One thing that I notice right off is the polarity of the injector itself. The outside is positive, and yet it bolts to the head of an engine which is grounded. So there is a mistake here, for that would just short out.

Thanks for pointing that out h2Opower.

From the patent of the fuel injector:

Figures 2A, 2B and 2C illustrate a type of injector useful, inter alia as a fuel source for a conventional internal combustion engine. In the cross-section of Figure 2A, reference numerals corresponding to identifying numerals used in Figure 1 show a supply line for water 1 leading to first distribution disc 1A and supply line for ionized gas 2, leading to second distribution disc 2A. In the cross-section, the supply line for non-combustible gas 3 leading to distribution disc 3A is not illustrated, however, its location as a third line should be self-evident. The three discs comprise distribution disc assembly 4. The supply lines are formed in an electrically insulating body 10 surrounded by electrically conductive sheath/housing 11 having a threaded end segment 12.

Does the internal combustion engine still require an inlet valve with carburettor if all of the 3 gasses are injected via the fuel injector? Out of what kind of material do you expect the engine block/pistons to be made of? With oxygen at a higher energy state, it will surely oxidise the iron much faster.

What kind of cheap alternative engines would be suited for testing?

Thanks H2Opower

[Guest]

Thanks Chasson, finally someone who assists me!

Exactly what I said about 10 times, he does some HHO inside the water mist ie 0.1% of total mix. That is the negative charge to mate O4+ with.

About the VIC, everyone should realize they need professional winding help for that.

Good luck!

Thanks h2opower!!!

For all who doubt its time you did your homework.

Patent PCT/US91/03476 would be a good place for everyone to start.

Notice how it begins in paragraph 2, 3 and 4. He cites his older patents,
4936961, 4826581 and co-pending patent serial no. 07/460859. Though these patents might hold some understanding to processes they are nonetheless old news.

Now read paragraph 5:

The invention of this present application represents a generational

improvement in the methods and apparatus useful in the utilization of

the water as a fuel source. In brief, the present invention is a

microminiatureized water fuel cell and permits the direct injection of

water, and its simultaneous transformation into a hydrogen containing fuel, in

a combustion zone, such as a cylinder in an internal combustion engine, a jet

engine, or furnace.


Page 7 of this patent also tells you what is put into the injector. Starting on line 10 In the zone(s), there is produced an "excited"... line 11 mixture of vaporized water mist, ionized gases and other line 12 non- combustible gases all of which have been instantaneously line 13 released from under high pressure.

Thanks again h2opower for showing us the next generation of water fuel.

[h20power]

A question for all takers

First to answer chub's question

Does the internal combustion engine still require an inlet valve with carburettor if all of the 3 gasses are injected via the fuel injector? Out of what kind of material do you expect the engine block/pistons to be made of? With oxygen at a higher energy state, it will surely oxidise the iron much faster.

What kind of cheap alternative engines would be suited for testing?

First question the answer is yes, for the engine has too breath, you can not have an engine run by having it suck air through a straw.
Second question what materials do I think things should be made up? The intake system aluminium or plastic, the pistons aluminium, and the block cast iron. Yes the iron surely might oxidize, but it should be coated with oil from the oil ring on the piston and that will give it great protection from the oxygen. All Aluminium parts will build up an oxide that will protect it, and plastic will not react with it. The role of the water fuel injectors was to bypass any vehicals fuel system so they could be retrofited to use water as a fuel source. The best engines are rotary and all aluminium or having ceramic in them. I will PM you with more information about fuel systems.

Now this question goes out to everyone reading this, be it Dankie, Gauss, OUstupid, and anyone else found on planet earth. I will explain the importance of the answer to the question on a later date. But I want everyone to use their brains to try to answer this question.

"How does voltage preform work?"

Stanley Meyer says people have to ask the right questions, and is a right question for understanding this question leads to understanding of how it all works.

I will be waiting to see if anyone can answer this question, and on a later date I will answer it if no one else can and explain it's importance.

On another note I was very tired when I wrote about the injector so I will add more infomation in there when I get a chance. So, sorry if I left anything out.


h2opower.

[h20power]

Good information as too knowing your foe

This video shows a very big player that all of us working on water for fuel technologies and all free energy devolopement for that matter is our collective enemy: Merchants of misery

Know your foe.

How to ask a question? Here is a video of a fellow Marine on how to go about asking questions: What does it mean to be a citizen? Plus much more information that is key to our survival as Americans.

I am still waiting on an answer on the above question.


h2opower.

[Guest]

H2O, any more brilliant questions that I answerred several times before?

Oops, forgot, you never care to read other peopleīs posts unless they hail you as the king of Meyer!! Well, now I baptize you the KING OF MEYER!! You really helped me understanding this whole thing and that is no minor feat. Thanks again!

The electrons are inside the water mist in the form of HHO, IT IS A GAS WHICH IS NOT LIQUID....

First advice:

Read Meyer, believe his practical skills concerning the parts, do NOT believe his theoretical skills, he never wanted you to get(and boy he had SUCCESS on this one) how his engine worked...

Second advice:

Voltage performs work just like I explained, via neutrinolysis as Meyl says. HV, HF induces neutrinos to convert into electrons and positrons, hence his book "Neutrino Power".....

[h20power]

H2O, any more brilliant questions that I answerred several times before?

Oops, forgot, you never care to read other peopleīs posts unless they hail you as the king of Meyer!! Well, now I baptize you the KING OF MEYER!! You really helped me understanding this whole thing and that is no minor feat. Thanks again!

The electrons are inside the water mist in the form of HHO, IT IS A GAS WHICH IS NOT LIQUID....

First advice:

Read Meyer, believe his practical skills concerning the parts, do NOT believe his theoretical skills, he never wanted you to get(and boy he had SUCCESS on this one) how his engine worked...

Second advice:

Voltage performs work just like I explained, via neutrinolysis as Meyl says. HV, HF induces neutrinos to convert into electrons and positrons, hence his book "Neutrino Power".....

First wrong answer keep trying everyone, never be afraid to fail for it's the only way we truly learn. What I am looking for is an answer that science tells us how voltage preforms work, it is not something that can be found in Stanley Meyer's patents and/or books. But Meyer does tell that it is a physical process, that is a "hint" to the correct answer.

You and some others fall into this category as it relates towards me, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. But I bare no hostility towards all of you, hope you all feel the same way.


h2opower.

[Guest]

Sorry "Master Professor" Tad Johnson(oops, I meant H2O)!

[rdmwc]

voltage creates electric fields which are electric forces, which push and pull charged objects.

[itzon]

[QUOTE=h20power;47288]If you take a close look at this patent you will notice some odd things: Stanley Meyer: Water Electrolysis -- Canadian Patent # 2067735 -- Water Fule Injection System

One thing that I notice right off is the polarity of the injector itself. The outside is positive, and yet it bolts to the head of an engine which is grounded. So there is a mistake here, for that would just short out.[QUOTE]

Negative high voltage is just as easy to make as positive HV. If he was using neg HV that would make the block the positive in this circuit.

[QUOTE=h20power;47288]But if you look at other technologies the water injectors are more like the Kelvin water dropper set up than anything else. The injectors give the water molecule a negative charge by passing it through a positive voltage zone thus polarizing it just as Stanley Meyer says they do.[QUOTE]

This part doesn't make sense to me. I understand your comparison to the Kelvin water dropper, but the water never contacts the "whatchamacallit" that the water goes through when it gets charged.

This is why I think he may have used neg HV at the injector.

Although I agree with most of your theory, I disagree that the electrostatic filter is not necessary. The highest level of contaminates in the water stated in the SMTB is 40 PPM. That ain't my tap water for sure. I think its going to take some fairly pure water to keep from arcing in the narrow gap of the injector.

The cat's nearly out of the bag.

Itzon