Stanley Meyer Explained

[Radiant_Science]

@H2OPower

This causes the equilibrium of the water to be unbalanced and the water corrects this unbalance by releasing hho. Then on the next pulse it does this all over again. If you don't have the electron extraction circuit hooked up the water molecule will relax back to the state it started off in before the pulse train hit it.

This is essentially right, but, IMHO a lil' more elaborate description is such, The High Voltage stress is translated across the voltage gap and across the water molecule...this molecular stress orients the water molecules in a bipolar manner. Now at this point we have a "Water capacitor, with the water as PART of the dielectric.

We now re-route the charge, carrying orbital electrons away. Now without the extra orbital mass to create an interlocking orbit, the molecule separates to the appropriate atoms. We now have ionized atomic gasses, we can do this in many stages, or one high powered, high surface area (vaporized water) stage.

[h20power]

@H2OPower
This is essentially right, but, IMHO a lil' more elaborate description is such, The High Voltage stress is translated across the voltage gap and across the water molecule...this molecular stress orients the water molecules in a bipolar manner. Now at this point we have a "Water capacitor, with the water as PART of the dielectric.

We now re-route the charge, carrying orbital electrons away. Now without the extra orbital mass to create an interlocking orbit, the molecule separates to the appropriate atoms. We now have ionized atomic gasses, we can do this in many stages, or one high powered, high surface area (vaporized water) stage.

I don't understand what do you mean "with water as part of the dielectric?" Water is the dielectric for it is a dielectric liquid.

from: Capacitance | World of Physics Summary
Dielectrics are the insulating materials used between the conducting plates of capacitors. Dielectrics increase capacitance or provide better insulation between the plates. Dielectrics materials exhibit very little ability to conduct electric charge. Mylar, paper, mica, and ceramics are commonly-used dielectrics. When extremely-high capacitance is required, a thin film of aluminum oxide on etched aluminum plates is used as a dielectric.

Dielectrics have a property called polarizability. A dielectric placed within an electric field appears to have electric charge on its surfaces even though the insulator remains electrically neutral. Each of the dielectric's molecules is stretched when the electric field causes its negative charges to be pulled toward the positive-charged capacitor plate and the molecule's positive charges are pulled toward the negative plate. This polarization strain causes each dielectric molecule to act as a voltage source. These voltages add in series aiding as do the voltage from several cells making up the battery in a flashlight. A phantom charge appears on each surface of the dielectric canceling much of the electric field produced by the real charges. The greater the polarization developed by a dielectric the larger the quantity of real charge the capacitor must store to develop a given voltage. The capacitance appears to increase as a result of dielectric polarization.

The capacitance multiplier for any dielectric is called its dielectric constant. The dielectric constant of a perfect vacuum is defined as exactly 1. Common dielectrics have dielectrics constants in the range of 2-4. Using a higher quality dielectric increases the capacitance by a factor equal to the dielectric constant.

Dielectric strength is the measure of a dielectric's ability to resist electric stress without losing its insulating capabilities. A high dielectric constant does not always correspond to high dielectric strength. Distilled water has a fairly high dielectric constant but it has poor dielectric strength. Water, therefore, is not a useful dielectric for capacitors because it breaks down too easily. Some ceramics have dielectric constants as high as 10,000. These materials would be extremely valuable if they had better dielectric strength.

The last part is what Stanley Meyer used the VIC transformers for as water has a low dielectric strength. The need for close to zero current systems was a must. The other factor are the relaxation time of water for that property of water is being used with the water fuel injectors.

Anyway I am not picking on you just didn't understand what you ment, okay?


h2opower.

[Radiant_Science]

Accumulative effect of water AND solid dielectric

@H2OPower
I mean no offense, but, it's explained in what u posted...especially these 4 points

1. Dielectrics have a property called polarizability. A dielectric placed within an electric field appears to have electric charge on its surfaces even though the insulator remains electrically neutral...

2...Each of the dielectric's molecules is stretched when the electric field causes its negative charges to be pulled toward the positive-charged capacitor plate and the molecule's positive charges are pulled toward the negative plate...

3...This polarization strain causes each dielectric molecule to act as a voltage source...

4...Distilled water has a fairly high dielectric constant but it has poor dielectric strength. Water, therefore, is not a useful dielectric for capacitors because it breaks down too easily

So points 1,2, and 3 show us how capacitor action behaves...The word dielectric is a reference to the molecules ability to polarize under two opposing electrical pressures +/- (hence di-electric)....and it's "strength is it's ability to stay together (in covalent bonding) under voltage potential.

Point 4 shows us that water's ability to resist High Voltage is actually low...So, I put forth the idea that at least one electrode (or tube) be insulated...so that the insulation in series with the water makes up the complete dielectric strength. The water will still act as PART of the dielectric and like-wise polarize to allow charge manipulation

[Guest]

My experience tells me that without insulation on any pipe the capacity is virtually zero(1-2 pF) in distilled water. With one side insulated with special coating you can go to nF-uF region and get the cap value stable up to 50 kHz.

Measure L and C at different freqs is a must on coil and cap(water) sides.

[pmazz850]

Bifilar wire supplier?

H2O, who did u use for a wire supplier for the bifilar wire?

[sebosfato]

Tesla's great dream to bring energy too the people, can now be forfilled. Perhapes not as he intended it too be but none the less the dream of the comon man having control of his/her own energy needs will still be a dream come true. Now only time will tell if anyone heard the message.

Best Regards,

h2opower.

Tesla transmitted wireless free energy exactly this way h2o the people should have a antenna witch received the signal and that signal causing an oscillation on an lc circuit, generating high voltage witch ionize the air and this way people could have a good source of low voltage high amperage.

The Resonator is used as water pump or steam generation with no moving parts.

[h20power]

Tesla transmitted wireless free energy exactly this way h2o the people should have a antenna witch received the signal and that signal causing an oscillation on an lc circuit, generating high voltage witch ionize the air and this way people could have a good source of low voltage high amperage.

The Resonator is used as water pump or steam generation with no moving parts.

Now everyone will have catch all the rain they can or go to the local creek and draw some water, plus installing one heck of a water trap for the exhaust can only help for it will be creating potable water for use or recycling.
But the end result will be the same as Tesla's dream, the people will have control of their energy needs and not some fat cat banker with his hands deep into your pockets.

Just think of it, no more heating and cooling bills, no more buying gasoline, propane, LPG, diesel, weilding gas, putting up wind farms or solar farms or even wave genarators, no more hydroelectric power, no more trying to hide radioactive waste in someone elses back yard, and only using coal for BBQ's. The next thing we all have to do is practice the rest of Viktor Schauberger's work for fixing up the mess we have made of the planet the right way. I am sure I left some of the energy sellers out but I think everyone gets the point.


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

ohh and the pressure do many things in the process. Read about pressure and temperature.


You still need the cell or any way to make that electrons make work splitting the water and is not that easy as you are saying.

Water have a max voltage to work otherwise you have sparks inside the water and that could be dangerous, the pulses stan said was to limit the voltage by limiting the current. This is the meaning of resonance step charging effect and pulse trains. Any way the cell and the gas processor was sync to have the current extracted from the gas processor into the water capacitor witch is in resonance to have the max amp flow as to have a high voltage as voltage is the product of current and resistance, the load or amp consuming device stan said on his lecture in New Zealand could perfectly be the water capacitor. You also don't want corona discharge inside your gas processor as it won't allow the gas processor to do what it need to do (maintain high voltage between plates) and would also destroy your electrodes. You could also put it in series but you would have high impedance so you just need to know what you are doing and find another way for doing so.

We could put our forces together guys this is my cause on face-book about this:
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We already got patent on this 2006 and just need the funds for constructing new prototypes as the old prototypes have being stolen by government... And to make more research on the best and economic solutions on catalysts for the electrodes used in the process. And recycling the heat losses of ICE turning it into useful power, by using direct injection. As to reduce further the need for liters of water/h being consumed, this way reducing also the size of the "conversion kit" witch is kind to big for now. You can split liters of water into hydrogen and oxygen with less than 100 watts power consume. Pay attention liters of water not liters of gas.
Thanks

Just like that h2o

[h20power]

ohh and the pressure do many things in the process. Read about pressure and temperature.


You still need the cell or any way to make that electrons make work splitting the water and is not that easy as you are saying.

Water have a max voltage to work otherwise you have sparks inside the water and that could be dangerous, the pulses stan said was to limit the voltage by limiting the current. This is the meaning of resonance step charging effect and pulse trains. Any way the cell and the gas processor was sync to have the current extracted from the gas processor into the water capacitor witch is in resonance to have the max amp flow as to have a high voltage as voltage is the product of current and resistance, the load or amp consuming device stan said on his lecture in New Zealand could perfectly be the water capacitor. You also don't want corona discharge inside your gas processor as it won't allow the gas processor to do what it need to do (maintain high voltage between plates) and would also destroy your electrodes. You could also put it in series but you would have high impedance so you just need to know what you are doing and find another way for doing so.

We could put our forces together guys this is my cause on face-book about this:
Causes on Facebook | Power to the People

We already got patent on this 2006 and just need the funds for constructing new prototypes as the old prototypes have being stolen by government... And to make more research on the best and economic solutions on catalysts for the electrodes used in the process. And recycling the heat losses of ICE turning it into useful power, by using direct injection. As to reduce further the need for liters of water/h being consumed, this way reducing also the size of the "conversion kit" witch is kind to big for now. You can split liters of water into hydrogen and oxygen with less than 100 watts power consume. Pay attention liters of water not liters of gas.
Thanks

Just like that h2o

I am not sure what you are talking about here for if you read my whole thread I go over just about everything and didn't really leave anything out. The only thing I didn't do is tell anyone how to build it. Learn what a corona discarge is, for that is not sparking going on inside of the Gas Processor, I even went as far as to show everyone a video of a gas processor in action from MIT. The main thing I did here was to give understanding when there was none, show where the energy was coming from too run an ICE with an hho production rate of only 7L/min. I also showed Stanley Meyer had two different ways to break the bonds of the water molecule. I showed that there are two different types of VIC transformers and both have different uses. I explained the water injection system with some understanding of the term Stanley Meyer used, "Micro-capacitor." And yet people still talk to me as if I made some mistakes somewhere and they are hear to enlighten me of the error of my ways. For all this time they already new how it all worked but just didn't want to share it with anyone until now or that is the feeling I get from the some of the questions they ask.

I know how Stanley Meyer did what he did to make use of water as a fuel source and in this thread I shared what I know with everyone not asking anything from anyone. I just gave the technology away for that is how GOD intended it to be. Sure I didn't share my designs, but I did something much more and that was to give understanding so a person could go forth and design their own and fix it if something should fail at some point in time. If everyone was just making a copy they would have no idea how to fix it if something broke. Simply put I don't understand the resistance I am getting with all of this. The math checks out just fine the science is good, and yet people still want to fight me on ideas like a corona discharge telling me it is something it is not! A corona discharge is not destructive to the metals Stanley Meyer used for there is no sparking taking place inside of the Gas Processor. The current in Staney Meyer's system lags behind by some 90 degrees and as a result never makes it to the componet it is hooked up to.

And what is this "WE" got a patent on this already in 2006 BS? They allowed some group to make a patent from Stanley Meyer's patents? The way Stanley Meyer wrote the patent's any type of system that uses voltage to break down the water molecule falls under his patents. Then your worried about the amont of water being used when Stanley Meyer said himself that they esstimated that they would use roughly 22 gallons of water to take a trip from LA, Cali to New York, New York. Now I have made that trip in a car and let me tell you it took a whole lot more that 22 gallons of gasoline to make the trip. And this time you pay attention and read the whole thread for people can use what every way they want to get themselves to be energy independent be it with water injection systems or gaseous injection systems. The main thing is to become energy independent by any means nesasary.


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

I am not sure what you are talking about here for if you read my whole thread I go over just about everything and didn't really leave anything out. The only thing I didn't do is tell anyone how to build it. Learn what a corona discarge is, for that is not sparking going on inside of the Gas Processor, I even went as far as to show everyone a video of a gas processor in action from MIT. The main thing I did here was to give understanding when there was none, show where the energy was coming from too run an ICE with an hho production rate of only 7L/min. I also showed Stanley Meyer had two different ways to break the bonds of the water molecule. I showed that there are two different types of VIC transformers and both have different uses. I explained the water injection system with some understanding of the term Stanley Meyer used, "Micro-capacitor." And yet people still talk to me as if I made some mistakes somewhere and they are hear to enlighten me of the error of my ways. For all this time they already new how it all worked but just didn't want to share it with anyone until now or that is the feeling I get from the some of the questions they ask.

I know how Stanley Meyer did what he did to make use of water as a fuel source and in this thread I shared what I know with everyone not asking anything from anyone. I just gave the technology away for that is how GOD intended it to be. Sure I didn't share my designs, but I did something much more and that was to give understanding so a person could go forth and design their own and fix it if something should fail at some point in time. If everyone was just making a copy they would have no idea how to fix it if something broke. Simply put I don't understand the resistance I am getting with all of this. The math checks out just fine the science is good, and yet people still want to fight me on ideas like a corona discharge telling me it is something it is not! A corona discharge is not destructive to the metals Stanley Meyer used for there is no sparking taking place inside of the Gas Processor. The current in Staney Meyer's system lags behind by some 90 degrees and as a result never makes it to the componet it is hooked up to.

And what is this "WE" got a patent on this already in 2006 BS? They allowed some group to make a patent from Stanley Meyer's patents? The way Stanley Meyer wrote the patent's any type of system that uses voltage to break down the water molecule falls under his patents. Then your worried about the amont of water being used when Stanley Meyer said himself that they esstimated that they would use roughly 22 gallons of water to take a trip from LA, Cali to New York, New York. Now I have made that trip in a car and let me tell you it took a whole lot more that 22 gallons of gasoline to make the trip. And this time you pay attention and read the whole thread for people can use what every way they want to get themselves to be energy independent be it with water injection systems or gaseous injection systems. The main thing is to become energy independent by any means nesasary.


h2opower.

Hi H2o i read all and i just said your right but still missing little things. More clearly saying you were right saying the energy comes from the gas processor all i'm saying is that you need to use the energy released in form of electrical energy to split the water too if not the equation you made is not going to hold your theory, lets say for example if you used 1 kw to ionize some amount of oxygen to its 4th potential it is going to split the exact amount of water would the same power applied in electrolyses would do. Do you remember when stan said I'm the big oxygen atom and i'm missing 4 electrons when come close to the water molecule i'm going to take of its electrons splitting it into oxygen and hydrogen in stable state. Like electrolysis. Other wise if you have already some hydrogen and oxygen in the mixture you are going to have the oxygen missing 4 electrons trying to rob the unique electron hydrogen have (assuming you have keep apart the oxygen from hydrogen after splitting them) opening its atom to liberate nuclear energy and neutrinos could be converted to electrons but in that point meyer wasn't sure what was all about thats why he said doing this water molecule could not reform and this way it wont. That is not what we want or at least i don't want to do that way.
If you have an aluminum oxide barrier on the negative side of your ionizer for example you are going to allow the potential to go very high between the plates and limit the corona discharge. The electrons you want come from the oxygen not from the negative plate. The magic is that doing so you have free electricity and if you don't use it is not going to make any difference between doing electrolyses and ionization of gases and injection micro capacitors or whatever, you are going to need more energy to do that than you can take from it. Calculating all the avogadro numbers, coulombs amperes ... if you have 1 mol of oxygen ionized to the 4th potential you liberated +-100 Amps. This can be used to split more 2 moles of water and mixing this oxygen with the gas you can modulate explosion time to normal gas burning rates. Inside the gas processor you want to have high pressure as pressure make things get warm and dense. And the injector is need to put all this in the right moment inside the piston.

About the patent 2006 we have is not meyers technology is a different technology that came out in the 60's but at that time government was bastard and still today. We use magnetism and catalysts. Witch let us to split liters of water with few watts/h. 500khz 600kv high recirculating current and thick coils i can't even show you the patent because is not in english... if any of you want to economically help my project i could translate it thought.
All we want is to free people we can't and wont share the technology because competition would lead us and others to fail and the technology would not come out. If we can wild produce it then costs will be reduced allowing people to buy it for few thousand dollars. And the money earned will be used for change the world as we know today helping the release of the technology and with many projects we plan to do. Join our cause.

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If you want to understand more about what i'm saying try to read my posts.

ah the mit videos are great for understanding on rlc circuits, electrostatics... find the video about van de graff witch the teacher charges the can to 30kv by puting the high voltage inside the can and about the water battery. watch at least the last 10 minutes YouTube - Lec 8 | MIT 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002

[tutanka]

HI Sebosfato,
You are italian as me. As I have reply to you into private msg is difficult obtain $USD200.000 without no test that your device work.As in all forum are spents some words but at today I'm not seen nothing to work. I suggest you, that you need money for build prototype, to convince the people with a small video test.. Regards

[h20power]

Not willing to share

You stated you and your team are unwilling to share for you don't want the competition. I read the site information and I don't agree with it. With this technology there is no reason to have power plants anymore.

From the site you posted:
English
Today we need energy for doing anything, and the energy sources we have are not infinite, and cause too much pollution. We have found a way to create 100% clean and free usable energy, which can run cars, airplanes, and power plants. We have already tried many times to find funds, but as this technology is not of the interest of most energy companies, no government will invest in this research. All we need now is your help; we need at least $200,000 for constructing some prototypes and continue the research. Please join our cause, donate and invite more people to this cause. For a clean and better world.

This technology is meant to free humanity from the energy enslavement created by the energy sellers. If this technology goes to a power plant nothing will change, the enslavers will just change from dirty burning to clean burning, but the population will still be enslaved. The way I set this thread up is for people to build the units for themselves by way of understanding. I know what you are trying to do, and that is get funds to build your prototypes and then sell them to the people at a cost.

In the most basic sense you are trying to socialize the cost of development and privatize the profits once the development yields a working model.

What I am trying to tell you is it is too late for that for I have posted how Stanley Meyer was able to use water as a fuel source for everyone to have for free. I for one reconize greed when I see it.

Just like Dr. Dingel said this technology is so big no one wants to share and that was to include Dr. Dingel himself. But as you can see I am not "no one," I am somebody that cares to do the right thing for humanity as a whole, I shared.

Quote from sebosfato:
All we want is to free people we can't and wont share the technology because competition would lead us and others to fail and the technology would not come out. If we can wild produce it then costs will be reduced allowing people to buy it for few thousand dollars. And the money earned will be used for change the world as we know today helping the release of the technology and with many projects we plan to do. Join our cause.

h2opower.

[tutanka]

HI H2OPOWER,
Idea of corona effect and clorofilliana photosynthesis is mine...

[sebosfato]

H2o if every one should construct its own unit nothing is going to happen believe me is not that easy.
1 Because the cost of the technology development
2 Because of people are already busy working to make money for survive
3 If everyone could construct its own unit we could not change anything in this world because there wouldn't be an impact of a technology like this released and ready to transform the all world, this way everything wold remain the same.
4 The materials needed are expensive when bought in small quantity and costs 50x or more.
5 We expect there will going to be more difficulties like when we just get start the price of oil is going to drop to make people think twice in buying the kit.
6 The problem is not sharing the technology or how it works, the problem is to construct a new world based on this technology and do it safe.
7 Meyer really died poisoned and I'm starting to have troubles
8 There are at least 1000 reasons I can say to you why is better like this
9 There are just another 1000 reasons you can say is worst. Anyway is question of opinion and is my life in danger so i had to decide how to keep myself alive.
10 If i could have millions of dollars in hands i would put in action our plans to free people from problems many bigger than energy slavery. Real solving problems like hungry and real slavery and money redistribution.

If you want to discuss this further let's go.

If you want to share with every one share working schematics so people have start point that works +- like when you sent me that schematic was really nice. But we need practical results too, that is what i'm trying to do in the last 3 years and try to get people who can invest is the only way i found possible to get it out of papers. I alone spent more than 10.000 euros with oscilloscope hv probes precision multimeters lrc ... and 3 years of full time house rent, food ... i'm not rich guy. i did all i could. The only people who helped me is my close friends as they understand i'm telling the true.

Try to think about the people who just don't care about that and would not follow any schematic or anything, or the other who also want to know but can't understand... i'm just doing this for saving this world to continue life not for money ... but to save the world and the only way to do it, is to bring this technology to everyone in an economic and very fast way.
thanks

[h20power]

H2o if every one should construct its own unit nothing is going to happen believe me is not that easy.
1 Because the cost of the technology development
2 Because of people are already busy working to make money for survive
3 If everyone could construct its own unit we could not change anything in this world because there wouldn't be an impact of a technology like this released and ready to transform the all world, this way everything wold remain the same.
4 The materials needed are expensive when bought in small quantity and costs 50x or more.
5 We expect there will going to be more difficulties like when we just get start the price of oil is going to drop to make people think twice in buying the kit.
6 The problem is not sharing the technology or how it works, the problem is to construct a new world based on this technology and do it safe.
7 Meyer really died poisoned and I'm starting to have troubles
8 There are at least 1000 reasons I can say to you why is better like this
9 There are just another 1000 reasons you can say is worst. Anyway is question of opinion and is my life in danger so i had to decide how to keep myself alive.
10 If i could have millions of dollars in hands i would put in action our plans to free people from problems many bigger than energy slavery. Real solving problems like hungry and real slavery and money redistribution.

If you want to discuss this further let's go.

If you want to share with every one share working schematics so people have start point that works +- like when you sent me that schematic was really nice. But we need practical results too, that is what i'm trying to do in the last 3 years and try to get people who can invest is the only way i found possible to get it out of papers. I alone spent more than 10.000 euros with oscilloscope hv probes precision multimeters lrc ... and 3 years of full time house rent, food ... i'm not rich guy. i did all i could. The only people who helped me is my close friends as they understand i'm telling the true.

Try to think about the people who just don't care about that and would not follow any schematic or anything, or the other who also want to know but can't understand... i'm just doing this for saving this world to continue life not for money ... but to save the world and the only way to do it, is to bring this technology to everyone in an economic and very fast way.
thanks

Would you be willing to sell it at cost? I am in the true spirit of non-profit. I know everyone can't build and/or even understand this technology. But I had to do this for I couldn't be the only one that knows how it all works. This is for engineers of all kinds, engineering teams, backyard builders, and high level machanic's. All of these are the new energy revolutionist. I for one am not in this to get rich for I will just take the savings and freedom this technology brings and in doing so live a better life. I share for deep down even you know it is the right thing to do, if I had not shared would anyone have ever figured out the true purpose of the Gas Processor? I think not for it has been over 11 years and up to this point everyone was just looking at the VIC transformer and WFC, stuck in a never ending loop of non-understanding. I like to call it the hho bandwagon. Sure at first I too was riding on that wagon, but I got off for I only saw myself casing my tail without any true understanding of the water for fuel technology. I know my chemistry and knew that the hydrogen/oxygen reaction only produced 286 kJ/mol, but if I had stayed on the hho bandwagon I would have never solved what was truly going on.

I don't know how it is in your country but here in America we have a lot of backyard builders, and shadetree mechanics. Each of them is capable of building working units all on their own, for that is how this technology came about out of someones garage. So I can't speak for your countrymen but I can speak for Americans and other countries around the world where the people on average take it apon themselves to learn how something works to better their everyday lives. I have seen many different designs now and all of them look great and will more than likely work for they followed all the rules.

In time there will be many different ways to make this technology come to life and it will all be coming from people from within the countries and not from those trying their very best to keep them inslaved. It is to be a grassroots effort that is global in nature. People helping people from all walks of life and not trying to rob and steal from them all they can until they can give no more. This technology is the key too cheap everything from food to goods for it all starts with who controls the energy, and if everyone controls their own energy they control there very way of life. I would like to start teaching everyone of Viktor Schauberger's work and how to do things the right way for our planets sake. For the one thing mankind missunderstands is this planet will be here for the long haul, even if we drop every nuke ever made the planet will still be here. The only change in the planet will be it's ability to support life, and given enough time it will reballance the equation and life will start again. Humans are just another chip off the old block riding around the sun as many other life forms have done in the past, but the earth remains.

We don't live in harmony with the earth for the most part and when shown that what we are doing is wrong turn the other way and pretend we are hurting no one. We take from the needy to give to the gready, we pullote our naibors lands just because no one can tell us what to do. We use force and mind games to control our populations. I know America is the worste case of all other countries beside Britian in spreading vilolence. For "We The People" seem to be asleep at the wheel and the Bankers have taken over our country. As it stands right now we are a nation that rewards criminals and punishes heros and other good do'ers. The more people you hurt and lives you distroy the better you are treated. For right now hundreads of thousands are loosing there homes due to the acts of criminals and the criminals have been put incharge of fixing it. What to you think the outcome will be? WWIII? Let me assure you that is not off of thier table, for they make the most during times of war, for they have been both sides of the war since the civil war here in America. I know all of this for I guess I took the red pill at some point in my life, and I can never go back to blissful ignorance.

All we can do is put forth our best effort to change the game and hope they don't flip the chess board as it starts to unfold. They might even go as far as to drop nukes by accident or mess up whole crops so that everyone starves to death and kill live stocks for the same purposes. The future they want means the death of you am me. For they want to kill up to 5 billion people or more, and right now they are setting up everything so they can do so. If America falls ecconomically we will take down most of the world bringing on mass starvation from the likes no one has ever seen since the 1400's a new dark age and this free energy technology threatens that game they want us all to play. The reason I tell you all of this is simple, I don't think you see the full picture of what is going on around you. And trust me this is just the tip of the iceberge. The best we can do is give the technology away for everyone we give it to we might just aswell have saved their lives.

Now you see just a small part of what we are up against,

h2opower.