Stanley Meyer Explained

[handyandy]

Re:Stanley Meyer Explained

Found this patent that may be helpful:

Method for chemical reactions using ... - Google Patents

There's a table of wavelengths (angstroms) for first ionization of different molecules and discussion for what it's worth.

Regards,
Andy

[tutanka]

HI,
At this time concepts are been explained and I don't understand why you continue to write about these insted to start to build system.
However some peoples have in mind to use hydrogen released for run and standard engine that have low efficiency. For first step can be ok but major problem is energy needed for obtain complet reaction.I remember to you that you can use on car only battery 12V as energy. You have asked of circuits, and apparatus needed but do you have calculate energy needed for power these?? I think that energy isn't sufficient for create an self sustaining system for it must be used a new system based on other principle. I think you agree with me that is needed high volume of heat steam, but how is possible create this and maintain high efficiency with low energy input? My reply is .. only if you use hydrosonic pump. This is based only on mechanical work, not on electronic circuits, and you can connect it directly to engine.. Of course for others stages are needed no more circuits but these used low electrical energy. As H2OPOWER write.. there are some ways for reach the same effect. My scenario is one GP processor multiple stages, one WP (water processor) stage and final reactor. I'm sure, from my experiements, that water must be pre-charged first with magnetic field (pass trought) and after charged with negative ionization and air with positive ionization and send this mixture to the REACTOR for obtain complete and immediately reaction.

[Guest]

Well I still am only one person....

And I am not trying to take over your thread, just trying to help analyze what happens. I for one has seen what happens to capacitance of a dielectric coating during operation, it is extremely unstable which renders the resonance unstable. That is why the coating/crystal idea is so important to all Meyer apps(gas processor etc) I believe.

If we use crystals we know they will keep vibrating at the same freq that we apply to them. That is a big and important difference to an uninsulated or dielectrically coated pipe.

I will start a new thread about this later. Thanks and good luck.

[tutanka]

Gauss .. some ways can be apply.. but the result must be te same for all.. Regards

[tutanka]

Question for H2OPOWER...I have understand that water pass trought steam resonator and after is sended to injector that have inside HV field controlled by EEC circuit..I suppose is use distilled water into Meyer system. This water is pre-treatment from steam resonator but into this stage water is heat to 90°C or is also charged electrically?? From here is sended to pressure to injector... Please reply me.. Regards

[sebosfato]

I'm going to ask one more time any of you understood my infinity circuit? And the meaning of the connections between my gas processor and my water electrodes?

I will explain even if all of you are too busy with your own projects and wants to talk only about them.

Anyway this connections make possible to step charge the cell towards infinity thats why i called it this way. One circuit apply Hv on the negative side of the water and positive side is connected using a diode to the negative side of the other circuit, this way as the transformers are very well insulated it can built up to 500kv and even more.

Between the water plates the voltage is going to be lower and the voltage will depends on the current coming from gas processor. The all circuit ground state will goes up with the relation between voltage between water electrodes x frequency as each cycle will change the ground state of the gas processor with this potential.

I started this idea wondering on how the van de graff works. (it don't exactly needs resonance) and just by the fact you put voltage inside, outside voltage goes up on each cycle until breakdown. And this will work inside a tube or can or sphere "You just have to go inside".

[tutanka]

As you know GP is one important stage for this process. H2OPOWER have write they must be at least 4 the electrons stripped from oxygen. But .. for obtain it the ionization energy must be always increased because you need top remove electrons (negative) from positive ions.In this way high voltage isn't every the same for reach complete process.Regards

[h20power]

I'm going to ask one more time any of you understood my infinity circuit? And the meaning of the connections between my gas processor and my water electrodes?

I will explain even if all of you are too busy with your own projects and wants to talk only about them.

Anyway this connections make possible to step charge the cell towards infinity thats why i called it this way. One circuit apply Hv on the negative side of the water and positive side is connected using a diode to the negative side of the other circuit, this way as the transformers are very well insulated it can built up to 500kv and even more.

Between the water plates the voltage is going to be lower and the voltage will depends on the current coming from gas processor. The all circuit ground state will goes up with the relation between voltage between water electrodes x frequency as each cycle will change the ground state of the gas processor with this potential.

I started this idea wondering on how the van de graff works. (it don't exactly needs resonance) and just by the fact you put voltage inside, outside voltage goes up on each cycle until breakdown. And this will work inside a tube or can or sphere "You just have to go inside".

Hi sebosfato,
I really don't understand what you doing but it looks like you are making use of the WFC with gaseuos a injection system and not the water fuel injection(WFI) system is that correct? But as far as the electronics there are too many different ways of doing the same thing for me to say if it will work or not, but the important part is you have a plan and just need to build it and test your theories out. Remember Stanley Meyer varied the voltage amplitude independently of pulsing train to control the full range of rpms of the engine.

Well, now it only looks like all you have left to do is build it to further you studies of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology. Have fun


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

Thank you h20 for the answer. First i'm trying on small cells than we need to make the injector for this to be usable. I think stan used direct injection because is the best way to get usable work from heat and or pressure too.

Today i made a really impressive test witch i used only like 600 watts and consumed 1 liter of water in about 15 min with a plate 10x20 cm. 200v dc 3 amps.
The plates are 3,4 cm far from each other with sponge separation. It generated a lot of steam too but i think is a good thing because now this steam will be easy to breakdown into hydrogen using the injectors and heat recycling to super heat it to make a cycle reduction or and hv and static and moving magnetic fields and ionized gases. bla bla

With normal water i got the same effect you see in meyers test YouTube - Stanley Meyer
The same big bubbles and using only 3 amps

With a smaller configuration tubular outside tube 6 cm and 3cm diameter 2mm gap it consumed only 400 watts and the water just popped out like crazy.

i was wondering what an amazing water pump with only 600w and 4 liters you can move up to 6000 liters of water with no moving parts using this water coming down in a generator won't produce more than this?

I'm going to try under pressure too but i need to built my over pressure sensor system.

Now i'm going to try with distilled water.

[tutanka]

HI Sebosfato,
If you use ONLY distilled water you start very low reaction.. no ions inside to water (PH7) no conductivity.. When water begins to heat the reaction increase, this because heat create ions. This is because I want use hydrosonic pump, I use distilled water and mechanically I create some steam ionized to pressure. However I suggest you to build a plasma reactor for create heat steam instead to use plates. Is more simple, no more power and is very functional but only if water is conductive Regards

[sebosfato]

Hi tutanka today i tried with distilled water was significant lower the amperage was about half amp. I used koh and than amps went to 15 and water boiled violently. I'm going to make a circuit for limiting amps by applying any frequency and control its duty cycle i noticed that if pulse it on and off many times it behave little different. Tomorrow i'm going to measure the water capacitance at different temperatures using deionized and normal water. Tutanka do you know where i can buy real distilled water or bi distilled water i just can't find it anywhere. Does anyone knows how much energy is needed using heat to boil 1 liter of water? in kj or kw?

Hope you are having a great time.

[pmazz850]

vIC question for H2Opower

The VIC bobbin dimensions you posted earlier, are these the dimensions you use on your working VIC? The reason i ask is when you were describing how the Vic works you said there were 42 coils(14x3). But your drawing shows 19 grovves which would give 57 coils. Or does it not really matter as long as the calculations for inductance are met? Just curious cause I'd like to make a set of bobbins and was just wondering if i could use your dimensions.The pictures of stanley's actual bobbins seem a little shorter and a little fatter.
And also when you talk about varing wire size, you mean between each winding right? I mean no breaks in the wire and resoldering? I know it sounds stupid, just want to be clear.
Once again, thanks for all your help.

[h20power]

The picture I posted of the VIC transformer is the first one I every made, I just took a stab in the dark with that one. It didn't work right for none of the bobbin spaces matched inductively and I had three different resonance frequencies as a result. It was nothing more than a great learnng tool, so please don't copy it. The VIC transformers are easy to build just make sure all bobbin spaces match inductively and first before you make a VIC transformer you should make what it is going to be hooked up to so you can get the capacitance. From the capacitance of what it is going to be hooked up too you can plan ahead of a frequency you want to use and set the inductances accordenly to the frequency you chose. To build the VIC transformer first without knowing the capacitance of what it is going to be hooked up to is just shooting the dark for you will have no idea where the resonance will be of the full circuit.


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

The picture I posted of the VIC transformer is the first one I every made, I just took a stab in the dark with that one. It didn't work right for none of the bobbin spaces matched inductively and I had three different resonance frequencies as a result. It was nothing more than a great learnng tool, so please don't copy it. The VIC transformers are easy to build just make sure all bobbin spaces match inductively and first before you make a VIC transformer you should make what it is going to be hooked up to so you can get the capacitance. From the capacitance of what it is going to be hooked up too you can plan ahead of a frequency you want to use and set the inductances accordenly to the frequency you chose. To build the VIC transformer first without knowing the capacitance of what it is going to be hooked up to is just shooting the dark for you will have no idea where the resonance will be of the full circuit.


h2opower.

Hi h20 power can you explain to us how to knowing the capacitance of what it is going to be hooked up?
And how to match bobbin spaces inductively?
And last thing why did you got 3 resonance frequencies? I really didn't understood. I'm sure you know the exact procedure to match the inductance ... please tell us.

Thanks

[pmazz850]

H2power, i'm not talking about the windings. Just the cores themselves. I'm aware that the injector has to be built first. I was just wondering if the dimensions of the cores could be used for a working VIC. I have been paying attention a little!