Stanley Meyer Explained

[djzissis]

Thanks,
Yes in Stanley Meyer design he used both photonic and electrical energy to strip electrons from the oxygen atom. My original design did call for four different types of LEDs but one was very expensive so what you are really seeing is three different types of LEDs ones that I am going to give a try. Remember it is the oxygen we are aiming at so choose the wavelengths that effect oxygen. 73 wavelengths can be found here but there are more: Spectra of Gas Discharges.
The problem is we don't know which ones are for what ionization levels so all of us have to guess on this one. The is the main reason I wont share which wavelengths I am using for I guessed too and don't want anyone getting mad if they don't work well and trying to point the finger towards me. All have to remember this is the first time this part of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology has been built in since before the mans death. I like the Gas Processor design digit is making personally, but I will keep to my own thoughts and create it the best way I can and not copy his. This way we get may get two different designs that both work and that is why I encurage everyone to make their own Gas Processors so we get even more different types of designs that also might work.

Nice Link..!!

For sure this needs testing, but how do we know exactly the every wavelength of every highlighted color in this range??...:
(oxygen)
Something I want to add here is that in the Stanley Meyer's papers, he says clearly that he uses in the Laser Accelerator ASS'Y that he uses 932nm LEDs and near kind phototransistors to be triggered by these LEDs.
I don't know if this has something to do with the Gas Processor ASS'Y.
An other idea is to find some LEDs that can change the light wavelength. But how we know when the Gas Processor is working effectively??

Stan Meyer says about non-combustable gases. The air is full of Nitrogen, right??
So did Stanley found a way to control the oxygen coming from the air (and then ionize it), and the amount of Nitrogen he uses from the air (maybe ionized too).??

I like Planck's law and tried to put it to use as best I could, but like I said earlier in the end I had to make a "best guess" as to which wavelengths should work the best. Yes it is delrin but I think natrual nylon would have been better. But I was trying like hell to keep the cost down this thing was not cheap and more than one had to be made or it wouldn't have been made at all. Now on to the next stage and get the electronics built and the unit installed in a car for testing. I am also working on the injectors, but there is nothing to show about them as of yet.

Remember the title is "Stanley Meyer Explained" I did not say anything about showing but only to provide a clear explainatoin as to how it all worked, in doing it this way it forces everyone to think and come up with as many different designs as there are people viewing all of this imagine over 21k different designs that all work. Is there only one type of car in the world of course not so why should there be only one type of design here, after all it is to take the place of fossile fuels right? So we need as many different design as we can get and that is where all of you come in making your own designs so when the time comes to take over it will be done with ease. For we will be competing with each other just like all of the many different car companies are doing right now, plus it goes one further and steps into power genaration and distribution. This is only the beginings of a world wide transformation and I wellcome all designs. For our end goal is enegy independence for all, so we can start the hard work of cleaning up the mess we have made of the planet thus far.

Your effort is very good my friend.!! You didn't mention anything about showing your works, and no one is going to judge you for that.!! We are here to do what we can do, and make the others do something like ours in their way. That's all. But if we finally make something it would be great to show a bit, that helps the others do it better than us.!!


All the Best..!!
Zissis

[h20power]

At the bottom of the link it will give the numbers of the wavelengths you have to click on it, and as an added bouns I gave an extra one at 777.19 nm or I think that is what I posted. Yes the nitrogen will get ionized too as well as anything else that travels through the Gas Processor. Any dust will be pent to the cathode so make sure you have a good air filter or you will be cleaning it out a lot. Digits design looks great too, and looks more towards something NASA would build I have seen others that curved the LEDs inside of the chamber and still others that are using needle tips to ionize the air. The possibilities are endless it seems, can we out do Stanley Meyer? With the advances in LEDs alone we sure can. How you will know it is working is the EEC will power up the load device you placed on it. Plus there are many other ways someone else just put a match inside and turned it on and the match got brighter or you can place it inline with an hho torch, but best make sure it wont spark inside first or you could blow up you Gas Processor inaverdently.

On ionizing the other gases we are not focusing the coherent light energy on the other atoms just the oxygen atoms. So, if what Stanley Meyer said was correct the other atoms will relax back to their normal state but the oxygen will not for we will be picking on them and not giving them a break of anykind. As for the other questions of what Meyer was trying to do I haven't the foggest, but I do know that the rules of science will alwasy apply.

Well, that's it of now,
cheak with yas' latter.

h2opower.

[handyandy]

population inversion

This might be what Stan was attempting:

Population inversion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"If the number of photons being amplified per unit time is greater than the number of photons being absorbed, then the net result is a continuously increasing number of photons being produced; the laser medium is said to have a gain of greater than unity."

That's just an excerpt there's more information in the article. That's just what jumped out at me.

Regards,
Andy

[sebosfato]

Very nice your Gas processor. I think stanley meyer just patented that but is not the intent of a project like this to make cars that consume water, i mean don't reform the water molecule. I'm quite sure is possible to make hydrogen enough with stans methods too.

I'm discussing his pll design here help Feedback winding for resonance with pll 4046 - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

I came up with some values for the pll circuit and now needs only few time to get the thing working.

[h20power]

This might be what Stan was attempting:

Population inversion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"If the number of photons being amplified per unit time is greater than the number of photons being absorbed, then the net result is a continuously increasing number of photons being produced; the laser medium is said to have a gain of greater than unity."

That's just an excerpt there's more information in the article. That's just what jumped out at me.

Regards,
Andy

That is a very interesting artical indeed. Seems to explain a lot of what is thought to be going on here with the Gas Processor. But the addition of the EEC makes all the difference in the world. It also tell of the importantanec to use the frequencies that target the atoms absorbtion wavelenths. Nice find Andy.

h2opower.

[handyandy]

Reopulation inversion

Here is proof by experiment that light can produce matter:

SCIENCE Online -- Ehrenstein 277 (5330):1202

Be careful of the gamma rays you might produce in your hydrogen gas guns.

Regards,
Andy

[TRON]

sparks

HMS-776,
This is one thing I didn't understand. As for igniting the mix, is the normal coil supposed to piggy back the pulsing coil? It would have to stop the pulsing for a second ,wouldn't it?
Couldn't the injector be located on the fuel rail where the old gasoline injectors went, retaining the spark plugs for normal ignition?

if the supply of processed ionized air/exhaust/water in the injector was 60 drops for example... (just a fixed quantity, (only enough to completely fill the space / gap surrounding the taper cavity on each injector)) at a few degrees before TDC on the engine (just before the suction of the piston occurs and during the previous exhaust cycle)) at this dead zone we then use the normal distributor cap with its dwell of 6-10 degrees ( thats why you need the schmitt trigger in the modified distributor) to send a long duration high frequency high voltage pulse from the vic to the cavity in the injector... assuming the water/air mixture is not being refreshed (because the pump is also pulsing according to the trigger in the distributor), the fuel becomes oxygen and hydrogen gas and a spark will result at the sharp tip (remember highvoltage likes sharp corners...) at the end of the injector AS SOON AS THE LIQUID BECOMES A GAS AND NO LONGER CONDUCTS (CAPACITANCE STARTS SHOOTING THRU THE ROOF) RESULTING IN A SPIKE OF CURRENT AT THE BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE THAT IGNITES THE MIXTURE. since the small hole (ring) of space at the end of the injector is much smaller than the combustion chamber its easier to move the piston down than it is for the flame energy to go backwards thru the injector (think surface area ratios). and because the oxygen atoms are in a higher electron state when they mix with the water less energy is used for the gas production in the taper resonant cavity and more is available for the spark. all of this occurs between 3 degrees BTDC and 10 degrees ATDC on the piston stroke.
The race car engines that run on turbocharged hydrogen use 15 degrees ATDC timing for their sparks, for optimum power because hydrogen explodes so quickly. it has a different power curve (sweet spot) than gasoline. This is one reason why all the experimenters out there using hydroxy boosters arent seeing the mileage gains, they explode the hydrogen in some cases BEFORE the piston chas crossed over the TDC mark, actually getting worse mileage... so the whole system must be designed to power a car... it wont work on a regular engine with standard ignition timing settings. im sure when Stan ran his VW engine on the electrolyser, he had to massage the timing settings using regular spark plugs!

[sebosfato]

Stan used like direct injection witch is only now after more 20 years being used on gasoline vehicles, it is more efficient and you probably won't need the non combustible gases, the combustible is injected after the compression during explosion like a fire gun. Is very clear looking at his drawings.

[h20power]

if the supply of processed ionized air/exhaust/water in the injector was 60 drops for example... (just a fixed quantity, (only enough to completely fill the space / gap surrounding the taper cavity on each injector)) at a few degrees before TDC on the engine (just before the suction of the piston occurs and during the previous exhaust cycle)) at this dead zone we then use the normal distributor cap with its dwell of 6-10 degrees ( thats why you need the schmitt trigger in the modified distributor) to send a long duration high frequency high voltage pulse from the vic to the cavity in the injector... assuming the water/air mixture is not being refreshed (because the pump is also pulsing according to the trigger in the distributor), the fuel becomes oxygen and hydrogen gas and a spark will result at the sharp tip (remember highvoltage likes sharp corners...) at the end of the injector AS SOON AS THE LIQUID BECOMES A GAS AND NO LONGER CONDUCTS (CAPACITANCE STARTS SHOOTING THRU THE ROOF) RESULTING IN A SPIKE OF CURRENT AT THE BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE THAT IGNITES THE MIXTURE. since the small hole (ring) of space at the end of the injector is much smaller than the combustion chamber its easier to move the piston down than it is for the flame energy to go backwards thru the injector (think surface area ratios). and because the oxygen atoms are in a higher electron state when they mix with the water less energy is used for the gas production in the taper resonant cavity and more is available for the spark. all of this occurs between 3 degrees BTDC and 10 degrees ATDC on the piston stroke.
The race car engines that run on turbocharged hydrogen use 15 degrees ATDC timing for their sparks, for optimum power because hydrogen explodes so quickly. it has a different power curve (sweet spot) than gasoline. This is one reason why all the experimenters out there using hydroxy boosters arent seeing the mileage gains, they explode the hydrogen in some cases BEFORE the piston chas crossed over the TDC mark, actually getting worse mileage... so the whole system must be designed to power a car... it wont work on a regular engine with standard ignition timing settings. im sure when Stan ran his VW engine on the electrolyser, he had to massage the timing settings using regular spark plugs!

Stanley Meyer used the recirculated exhaust gases to solve that problem in what he calls, "slowing the burn rate of hydrogen." It's all in the patent.


h2opower.

[pmazz850]

vic core supplier?

Can anyone recommend a place to get the ec120 core needed for vic? Or possibly a different option for the core?

[Gre]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

[h20power]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

Since you can't read, why write? Is it a lack of understanding, or just pure lazyness that you posted this crap on my thread? Are you suppose to be the heart beat of everyone that reads this, knowing what they think, how they feel. Are you so pig-headed that you actually think you speak for more than yourself? The math I posted is real, just because you don't understand it you fight it. And on the latter of your statement I am already on it.


h2opower.

[h20power]

Just some more pics of my version of Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor:




The whole thing should be completed very soon so I have my work cut out for me in the next few months as I match a VIC coil to it and make the controling electronics to go along with it for the whole system in preperation for the switch over from gasoline to water as a fuel source. It's only a matter of time now for the math of all of this has been shown and it checks out just fine. Enjoy breaking the chains of the energy enslavement game everyone


h2opower.

[Digits]

Hi H20

Listen nice one on the photies it looks great my aproach is a little diffrent but I suppose thats the idea right.

If some one can answer me it would be great.This is just a general question though.
Stan explains the EEC on one of his videos and says that one volt will extract one amp out of the gas gun how on earth does this work?
some one on the thread said that I dont know how many moles of oxygen = to 100amps ( meaning allot of electrons right) how do we calculate it?
I have built a eec with onley 3KV but onley manage to generate a large static voltage in the reagon of 20KV.
BUt I dont know how to make any use with this voltage or convert it to amps to do some useful work.
I have seen how hey explain feul cells and there are onley 2 electrons used for every 2 hydrogens and 1 oxygen but we are extracting lots more am I right.but how do I get the electrons to do some desent work?
Mabe this is a stupid question to some of you but I really struggle to understand this.
THanks and keep up the good work

Digits

[Gre]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

Geezz... No need to be rude and combative H2Opower... All I'm saying is the there are 100s of people just like yourself with theories on how Stan Meyer's system should work (when in fact they don't). What makes you think yours is so special?

A working replication is worth 1000000 theories.