Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

To be honest I wont even give the use of the Gas Processor in tandem with gasoline or any other form of fosile fuel due to the harm they have done world wide as a whole. Alaska's cost line is damaged for at least 400 years or more, places in South America are killing people due to polution brought out by the fosile fuel slavemakers. This whole war on terror is to take control of the countries resorces mainly oil as we all know or should know by now the events of 9/11 where planned well in advance by those in power. Even the first actions of our military was to secure the oil fields.

Think of all those people killed since the lie of 9/11 well over 1 million people dead, and Dr. Steven Jones has the smoking gun eveidence that bombs where planted in the buildings and this doesn't make front page news. YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.. This is a war we are in a war of control, greed, and lust for power. The war we are in is based on a lie, "they" needed a new pearl harbor type of event so they could go in and take control of their resources, plus conver up their tracks of illegal arms dealings. The war in Afan is over drugs, for Osama has been dead for years YouTube - Frost over the World - Benazir Bhutto - 02 Nov 07 This woman was killed very shortly after this by a professional hit for she was in an armored car and she was shot by a snipper.

I am not sure if I have ever talked about this before here, but this war is made possible by the control of information (our Media), the control of energy ( which makes their wheel go round), and the control of the populations under the World Bank and IMF (Our FED Bank). The control over energy is the key to stopping them, energy independence is something that they are willing to kill millions to prevent. The plan to end the USA is well underway. You have to understand since there is no more cold war they have to invent an enemy that could never be found and that could stike at anytime, and they gave us, "The WAR on Terror." But interestingly enough it all started with the Oklahoma City bombing, if you take a very close look at those events you will find that like the events of 9/11 nothing adds up between what we where told and the true evidense of the events. I beams where sheared off, look up the shearing fource of an I beam and you will find that the bomb didn't have the energy to do such a thing. Plus all the debre was thrown in the direction towards the so called blast zone. One or more of the bombs didn't go off and had to be defused, but that footage is very hard to find these days.

This war you have entered for energy independence is a dangerous one YouTube - Energy / Oil Mob, Suppression & Government Control. I concider myself a very well rounded person, in many topic's be it science, politics, and many others.
If you go after funding for this more than likely all you will get is death for your efforts. Now that we have the internet I have done the right thing and given the technology away for free. For that is the only way to beat them, if you try and make a profit these people whom you don't want to see will seek you out. Control of the energy means control of the people and they are not going to give up their control of us of their own free will. You up against the World Bank, International Monetary found, FED Bank, and much much more.

The best thing any of us can do is build these devices get energy independent and just take the savings they give and like "Milk does the body good," pass it on By not knowing who the true enemy is many inventors have been stopped in their tracks. Those in power rely on greed to alert them to any potential threats too their way of life, for everyone has been made to accept the programing of becoming rich, if you find an edge and or just want to get paid for their efforts. Greed is a hard rock to let go of perhaps one of the hardest, besides self love, and lust & personal pleasure.

I can't tell any of you what to do with the technology (because I gave it away for free) but I can alert you to just who the true enemy is. This has to be a grass roots effort of the likes the world has never seen before. For the control that "They" have over us is global and they are not going to give it up willingly.

Milk does the body good everyone, pass it on

h2opower.

[natone_m]

I agree!!

H20 you hit the nail on the head. I personally believe that information horders like orion project that seemingly desires to be a profitable company in the future for their efforts in free energy technology are in for a rude awakening. They are sitting in a position to free source all of their discoveries in SM technology to the world, but they will not! There is NO ONE that will stand in the way of the driving forces of the energy dictators. Free engergy will NEVER see the light of day from any company, corporation, or non for profit group. The ONLY way is to put the information into as many tinkerers' (such as ourselves) hands to learn and teach others. A grass-root energy movement from the ground up is the only way to win. Any motivation of greed at all will guarantee failure.

[natone_m]

The skeptics

The things H2O is talking about I beleive are true as well. There comes a point when even the most irrational thinkers cannot deny the overwhelming facts on matters smacking us in the face on subjects like 9-11, the afgan/iraq/iran war, the georgian skermish, CFR, IMF, engineered colapse of the $$$, ect. All one has to do is read. I guess i'm one of those tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, however there comes a point when one can't even call them theories anymore. I think the majority of the public would refer to me as the skeptic. I see it the other way around. Have any of you mentioned water fuel tech to anyone you know and get the one eyebrow raised, "you're crazy" look? I think our society is full of misguided skeptics that need awakening. It won't come form CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS, or ABC. It will come from people like us and our efforts proving that viable options for our future and childrens' future are being kept away from us.

[Oneminde]

H20 you hit the nail on the head. I personally believe that information horders like orion project that seemingly desires to be a profitable company in the future for their efforts in free energy technology are in for a rude awakening. They are sitting in a position to free source all of their discoveries in SM technology to the world, but they will not! There is NO ONE that will stand in the way of the driving forces of the energy dictators. Free engergy will NEVER see the light of day from any company, corporation, or non for profit group. The ONLY way is to put the information into as many tinkerers' (such as ourselves) hands to learn and teach others. A grass-root energy movement from the ground up is the only way to win. Any motivation of greed at all will guarantee failure.

Okey, i do actually agree whit h2opower on this, i do, for that is one reason that i first started to look into this tech - before i entered this tread. But, oh yes there is a but here. Is there anyone here that honestly believe that we are going to see 100- 200 miljon people that are building a replication of this specific system (the one presented here) whit in 5-10 years?

And is there anyone here that feels if a company somewhere develops this system, massproduce it at a consumer price of 1500 - 2500,-that this is wrong?

First of, i dont belive for one second that we are going to see 100-200 even 300 miljon people, in there garage re producing this, maby 5000-10.000 will engage in doing so in said timelimit.
If we want to see 300 miljon cars converted whitin 10 yers as an exampel, it need´s to be mas produced AND proven that it actually works - never mind that we understand it, there is always a scepticer. And, the price for said system will drop when mass produced, that we know.

I'm just thinking out loud here, this is how i see it and i feel that it is realistic.
Sure i'm going to build it.. no doupt about it - i am in the fase of constructing it as i am writing this, but my point still stands and everything h2opower and you nantone_m said is nobel and all that - and i want to see free energy. BUT remember - the energy is free, the cost of production is not, no matter what, it cost to produce it, so this tech can never be entirerly free in it's true meaning FREE!

"A clobal movment where everyone puts in a bit so everyone can have said system and run there car for free"? .. no, not in our lifetime it whant. But the energy, yes that will be free in SOME countrys and in some not.

That is realistic or so i believe. But no worrys, this is one step, the next one is to prove it at a large scale and so on.. it is always in small steps.

We need to be realistic here - it is nice to dream, sure it is - but not everyone is driven by greed Do you h2opower and nantone_m realy believe that everyone that touch this knowledge will be driven by greed and lust for money and power?
I know that i'm not and that is something that i can stand behinde. What others are feeling and thinking is up to them - but that is not my driving force for this. If money was a concept that actually was my driving force, i would not have posted on this forum, i whould just read and learn and that would be it, and just build it and say nothing to no one until i could make billions on it and so forth... but that is not how i see it. But i know for a fact that people are lasy, dont care and so forth. The % that actually do care (like us) is 1/100.000.. and wow, that is one tuff battle to fight. Phu... i know i know, we - WE - want this to be free and yes we whant everyone to use this tech... but!

Depenting on where you live now will detirmen if you will succeed in pulling this one of safe and to use water free.. i'v been following this discustion - THIS ONE RIGHT HERE - a while now and i know that there is a difference between europe and USA in some and that is one reason for me saying what i do. The world is not one - there is not one world order - and there is not one way this is going to happen. We are going to see different methodes, different timelines etc. But i do belive that we are going to see this pop up somewhere and be honoured, and we are going to see a driving force that are going to try to stop it or what ever somewhere ells... that is still the world we are living in - maybe not my world right here, but i know that this is a reality for some in the "one nation under god" country becouse you are talking about that exact scenario ... either becouse you know that is going to happen or that you belive that this is what YOUR government is going to do to you/whit you... so said, i am sorry for you guys. But the situation is not the same for me.... but of curse, nothing of this is surten - it might not happen and it might, for only tomorow knows what will happen.

Right?... just me thinking loud here - nothing ells.

[h20power]

Things you all should know

How to control the masses is something everyone should learn about, for if you watch all of these videos, and you understand them a most propaganda will nolonger work on you.
The Century Of The Self - Part 1 of 4 - By Adam Curtis
The Century of the self 2 of 4
The Century of the Self 3 of 4
The Century of the self 4 of 4

For once you understand this system you can too also use it. This system of greed they have set up is just about to bit them in the ass. Let me put it to you this way, if your naybor is not paying for electricity, and nolonger paying for gasoline, how long would it be before you copy what they are doing?

Now put that in the hands of someone like DHL and UPS, now they have a fleet that nolonger needs fuel and the pocket 50% of that and lower the prices 50% to crush their compeditor, what will have to take place? Everyone will have no choice but to switch over or go out of buisness. Something as simple as a pizza deliver company doing this will wipe up all of his compeditors and make a profit at the same time.

The system of control they have worked so hard to set up over the last 70 years or so will all come crashing down as everyone world wide will find a way to better their on personal lives. Countries around the world will be able to pay off there IMF loans within a few short years. I can't predict the future, but I can tell you this, those in power right now, do not think the way we do. What to you think is going to happen to all the long range plans in the middle east, and to those that have put/stole the money for these plans? They just killed over 1 million people, they are right now planning to break the worlds monitary system and kill off, say 2.3 billion as they do. It is there, problem, reaction, solution, that they are planning on using no us all. They create the problem, watch our reaction to it, and then offer a soultion using the methods of Edward Bernays. There propaganda is so strong it still even works on me but just not for long pierods of time.

I know how to use these methods so the stage is set to get this technology to be felt as if you are going to die without it. Too perhaps even set up mass histairya in the minds of the masses. I know full well how to do this, and if anyone fully understands the videos just posted will also know how. But I do know if you watch all the videos the comershals will nolonger work on you with full effectiveness as they did before you watch them.

These videos show your system of government and teach you the system of control that has been placed on you:
YouTube - Real America 1 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 2 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 3 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 4 0f 4

Learning these you can see just what this is all about. Pitting one against the other is there way of life for they are both sides of every war since WWI. Now without the cold war they had to create a new enemy, "The Evil Terrorist." The system of control they use is complexe but America can not exist in the final version of their control of the globe, which is why the North American Union was set into motion. You are all wittnessing these actions being carried out. Control of the flow of information is a must which is why they are working towards ending the internet as we know it by 1212 or sooner. But for right now it is the only way to get the word out to the masses, for not many news groups today will cover this once it gets started.

I know this all seems way off topic but really it is not, for again I remind you in order to break this system of control is going to be hard work. I may not see the promiseland but I will die knowing I did my part in all of this. For in the end that is all we can do, is do our part in seeing this live saving technology makes it out to as many as possible and that is the knowlege of how it all works not some company that might get nuked for selling this. The knowlege has to get out, and I belive I have done this already. But I can't do this alone and need the help of my fellow men & women around the globe.

Right now all eyes are on me to see if I can get my car running on water, but the important thing is I have shown the science behind all of this, so if I get stopped someone else who has read this thread can also do it. That is how grass roots activisim works it's way around the world, one person sharing and caring to someone else.

I hope this explains my postion on most of this,

h2opower.

[Oneminde]

Sure, that is one way of putting it on the map of evolution h2opower, and good points and yes, one possible future.

Terror is spreading fear in peoples mind... hmm, kinda remindes me of what the US Government did after 9/11 - ironic is'nt it?

[Dave45]

I have to agree, but some kind of manufacturing process will have to be set up particularly in electronics area, most people cannot build the vic that will work me included. As far as installing a system or troubleshooting one yes but building a hv coil where matching inductance is vital is beyond the scope of the everyday laymen and that is going to slow the spread of this tech and it needs to spread like wildfire.
So like it or not we have to be realistic someone is going to have to package this system and sell it, I'll buy one today .
Open source it but sell it also, people are lazy they dont want to learn the tech just use it.

[h20power]

Agreed

I have to agree, but some kind of manufacturing process will have to be set up particularly in electronics area, most people cannot build the vic that will work me included. As far as installing a system or troubleshooting one yes but building a hv coil where matching inductance is vital is beyond the scope of the everyday laymen and that is going to slow the spread of this tech and it needs to spread like wildfire.
So like it or not we have to be realistic someone is going to have to package this system and sell it, I'll buy one today .
Open source it but sell it also, people are lazy they dont want to learn the tech just use it.

When the system is up and running more than likely a full set of plans for everyone to have that are so detailed all one has to do is take it to different shops to get it built for them will also have to be put out. But it will be for one type of car perhaps two no more. For I have a life I intend on living with this new found source of freedom and will more than likely move on to something else of interest to me. I will leave it to someone else to build the Meyer style injectors, for the patent on the fuel control systems seems to be still pending, two of them. I for one don't know how to get a hold of pending patents. One thing I do know is enough information has been put out on this thread to get anyone started on running a ICE or even a jet with a little more R&D for timing and things of that nature still to solve.

I know the LEDs still have some work needed but in Meyer's design they are really only there to keep the energy levels from falling back down. Advancements in the LED technology has made it where we can now push the energy levels up with the LEDs too. So right off the bat we have surpassed Stanley Meyer without even building it. I took advantage of this and got some LEDs I think will do just that.

Your design your rules remember, so pick any way you want to make the technology work for you and what you do with in it trully up to you. Any plan of action you have in mind to bring the technology out is worth a try. But just to take the saving this technology brings and pass on what you have learned to others is what I want to do. This kind of freedom will do wonders for humanity, and we can start focusing on cleaning up the mess we have made of the planet. Learning better ways to live with the planet's delicate eco systems, and building our homes and full way of life around ideas of the like. I for one would like to be able to swim in the water ways around the water ways again. To be able to eat the fish, and see to the bottom once again. Fish use to swim in a creek near my home and fogs where as big as kittens, everything is now dead and the creek is only home to leaches and other paracites. Even the crayfish are dead now. We have a lot of work to do to make things back right, this is only a small step in the right direction for our children desirve better than this.


h2opower.

[Dave45]

I for one would like to be able to swim in the water ways around the water ways again. To be able to eat the fish, and see to the bottom once again. Fish use to swim in a creek near my home and fogs where as big as kittens, everything is now dead and the creek is only home to leaches and other paracites. Even the crayfish are dead now. We have a lot of work to do to make things back right, this is only a small step in the right direction for our children desirve better than this.

I agree totaly I also live in an area where i grew up that has a creek that is not what it used to be, I dont let my children play in it anymore unless we have a good rain. That really hurts my heart to see the devastation that is taking place in our environment and to know that our children cant enjoy the simple pleasure's we had as children.
The electronics are beyond me but the injector is mechanical more my area I think I'll see what I can do in this area. Thanks my friend for all your doing.
Onward Fellow Crusaders
Dave

[CPU3rother]

Now, c mon, realy - intensity?
luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source = How many photons is emitted. The more luminous intensity there is (or candela) the more photons is emitted. It is basic knowledge..

In the GP we want as many photons as possible per wavelenght, so, the more luminous intensity, gives us more photons which gives us a larger % in hitrate - meaning that one wavelenght will have a higher procentage to increase the energy yeild per electron and it also mean that we have a higher propabilety for said photon to accept another photon whit lesser energy, thus elongating the electron or simply ionize it. That is multiphotoionization.

Are you happy now CPU3rother. Hope this answers your remark for light intesity.

And for the hydrogen in the GP: HHO + Gas Processor = The Hydrogen Fracturing Process or porcessed water + GP.
Now i understand your remark or maby not - but why would'nt we use hydrogen in the GP and why would'nt we ionize it?

Is it becouse there is a change that gama rays will be given of? is it becouse a free electron might recombine whit said nuclei and create a "spark" of energy and BOOM? Why is it so dangerous?

Unless a proper answer is given or i find said answer myself, HHO in the GP!
This is open for debate... shoot!

Yes, really Intensity. Just not necessarily the kind of intensity you are referring to. I chose not to use the words candela or luminous intensity because these words confine and make reference to the visible spectra. In other words the Luminous intensity doesn't necessarily give you more photons just more in the most visible spectra. "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source" Or to finish the quote "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source in a particular direction per unit solid angle, based on the luminosity function, a standardized model of the sensitivity of the human eye" = visible light. Despite this, the "Intensity" I spoke of can be called by many names. Don't get me wrong, I think you are correct in your understanding about this its just the term I am disagreeing with.

Putting hydrogen in the GP is not ruled out of every design, but is also not part of the injector system. Aside from the safety concerns that (can be overcome) I don't see why you couldn't do it so long as you can stop premature ignition. Stan had some solutions to minimize this, but it appears he preferred to do his mixing as close to the desired point of ignition as possible.

[CPU3rother]

Now put that in the hands of someone like DHL and UPS, now they have a fleet that nolonger needs fuel and the pocket 50% of that and lower the prices 50% to crush their compeditor, what will have to take place? Everyone will have no choice but to switch over or go out of buisness. Something as simple as a pizza deliver company doing this will wipe up all of his compeditors and make a profit at the same time.


h2opower.

Nice examples. History has proven this with many new technologies.

[Oneminde]

Yes, really Intensity. Just not necessarily the kind of intensity you are referring to. I chose not to use the words candela or luminous intensity because these words confine and make reference to the visible spectra. In other words the Luminous intensity doesn't necessarily give you more photons just more in the most visible spectra. "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source" Or to finish the quote "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source in a particular direction per unit solid angle, based on the luminosity function, a standardized model of the sensitivity of the human eye" = visible light. Despite this, the "Intensity" I spoke of can be called by many names. Don't get me wrong, I think you are correct in your understanding about this its just the term I am disagreeing with.

Putting hydrogen in the GP is not ruled out of every design, but is also not part of the injector system. Aside from the safety concerns that (can be overcome) I don't see why you couldn't do it so long as you can stop premature ignition. Stan had some solutions to minimize this, but it appears he preferred to do his mixing as close to the desired point of ignition as possible.

When it comes to intensity, i understand what you are saying - if we only look at UV spectrum of the GP, in that case, the luminosity is fairly low (what we can see) but it doesent mean that there are fewer photons.. i do not know what messurment is used to count "uv intensity" but it (i belive) is not in candela or luminosity... I suppose that we need to messure the electro magnetic radiation?
And when it comes to hydrogen in the GP, that was reffering to a WFC + GP - not the injector, for the injector part there is only ionized air.

I did not mean to be condescending in my responce, i just had a bad day.

[CPU3rother]

When it comes to intensity, i understand what you are saying - if we only look at UV spectrum of the GP, in that case, the luminosity is fairly low (what we can see) but it doesent mean that there are fewer photons.. i do not know what messurment is used to count "uv intensity" but it (i belive) is not in candela or luminosity... I suppose that we need to messure the electro magnetic radiation?
And when it comes to hydrogen in the GP, that was reffering to a WFC + GP - not the injector, for the injector part there is only ionized air.

I did not mean to be condescending in my responce, i just had a bad day.

That's correct I was referring to radiant intensity. Not all photons are created equal. They can be emitted with various energy, at least as far as we can measure. A single photon at about 500nm has 3.97x10E-19 Joules (0.000000000000000000397 Joules) or 2.477878026 eV . A single photon at about 35cm has 5.6 x 10-25 joules (5.599999999 joules) or 3.495243563e+19 eV. So you can see that we could have fewer photons and more energy. Oh and in case you are wondering... No, I didn't do the math myself.

Don't worry I didn't take offence. I rather enjoy intelligent debate it makes me either confirm or change what I think.

[Oneminde]

That's correct I was referring to radiant intensity. Not all photons are created equal. They can be emitted with various energy, at least as far as we can measure. A single photon at about 500nm has 3.97x10E-19 Joules (0.000000000000000000397 Joules) or 2.477878026 eV . A single photon at about 35cm has 5.6 x 10-25 joules (5.599999999 joules) or 3.495243563e+19 eV. So you can see that we could have fewer photons and more energy. Oh and in case you are wondering... No, I didn't do the math myself.

Don't worry I didn't take offence. I rather enjoy intelligent debate it makes me either confirm or change what I think.

That's correct. One might also say that there is a differens in the amount of photons (radiation) and the energy content.
Let's pressume that you have a high energy content (eV) but low radiation, what this means is that the procentage that will interact whit the electron is farly low, meaning that you we will see a timeline where there is no effect before something happens, but when it does, it will probably ionize or elevate the electron several levels.
The next scenario is where you have a large radiation but low energy content in the photon - in that case, you will have a much higher propabilety to interact whit the electron but lower chance to elevate it or ionize it.
But overall it whould take the same time to do so...

So to calculate and choose the "right" wavelengths is not that easy any longer... and we also need to have a farly good knowledge on which wavelenghts that will interact whit the electron and so forth.
For the GP - well, one that are wide in it's spectrum (white) - one that are in the red spectrum and one that are in the UV spectrum should provide a good plattform for Multiphotionization, that is the correct term for the Gas Porcessor... dont forgett the Field Ionization (HV) either, you need your Rudberg molecules/atomes.
We could top it of whit some IR led's just in case.

When it comes to a UV source, i did finde a good site for uv led's, take a look, it might help you.

UV-Led's

[CPU3rother]

@Oneminde
It was good for me

This is a good read on Nitrogen and Oxygen interactions
Chemical of the Week -- Ozone