Stanley Meyer Explained

[Tecstatic]

@h20power

OK thanks, I will try to digest this big topic. The reason I have looked at it now, is because I am collecting requirements for my FE experimental computer, which I am doing design work on for the time being.

When I look a Stans circuits, some of it could be done more convenient these days with modern electronics.

Eric

[Dog-One]

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For time will go on it is the infomation you will get in that time that will make a differance in your life.


h2opower.

Here's what I'd like to offer to this project h2o: When you get this working (and you sound pretty confident you will), I'd like to volunteer to fully document the whole thing so that a grade schooler could replicate it. My plan would be to build it as I go with assembly photographs, explanations of the working principals, the dependant steps, everything. I'll do this and publish it to this site for editing and when it's letter perfect, my hope is that you all go viral with it. I would even like to bring partially assembled modules to the local elementary schools for science day and show the teachers, students and parents what's really possible and exactly how you can do it.

And when that's all done, hopefully I can get h2o to work on the next big project... Mortgage Independence. Then maybe Food Independence. And that my friends would definitely change the world without a doubt.

[h20power]

Hi,
Sounds interesting though I do have a plan in place of what to do next, I will keep it in mind when I'm done with this. To show teachers and other instructors is easy, build just one voltage zone positive tube on the outside and a glass coated rod in the center. Spray a very fine mist of water through it along with some air flowing through it over a flame. The power supply to the voltage zone must be over 20k volts DC and pulsating around 10k Hz or more should do the trick and water will be broken down into hydrogen and oxygen. Yeah it's really that simple to break water down into it's componet elements. That is the way the injectors work in Meyer's patent for the most part.
As for the other forms of independence I will leave that up to others to pursue as I want to get into other work with perminate maganets and motors perhapes or just enjoy my family with my new freedoms. For with my new freedoms road trips are back in business as I won't be paying for fuel any more, plus the country needs some help right now in getting back to a constitutionally run form of government.


h2opower.

Here's what I'd like to offer to this project h2o: When you get this working (and you sound pretty confident you will), I'd like to volunteer to fully document the whole thing so that a grade schooler could replicate it. My plan would be to build it as I go with assembly photographs, explanations of the working principals, the dependant steps, everything. I'll do this and publish it to this site for editing and when it's letter perfect, my hope is that you all go viral with it. I would even like to bring partially assembled modules to the local elementary schools for science day and show the teachers, students and parents what's really possible and exactly how you can do it.

And when that's all done, hopefully I can get h2o to work on the next big project... Mortgage Independence. Then maybe Food Independence. And that my friends would definitely change the world without a doubt.

[HMS-776]

H2O

Great Posts here!!!

I have done much research on the Oxygen atom but have not been able to understand why you chose the wavelengths you did? Can you explain?

[NewGuy]

Im wandering stuff too.... like if what you are try'n to do is make possitive Oxygen ions ..... ( that is the end result isnt it ) seems like there would be simpler ways than using LEDS and all that .... If you have an atom that has less electrons than protons it will have a possitive charge and that simply seems to be what the end result is.... or are you removing protons as well? Seems like the point of the EEC is to give each atom / ion a possitive charge so they repell from each other .... an oxygen atom having less electrons than protons ....it takes on a possitive charge. Would a possitive ion generator be a starting point for those of us that cant readily build the kinda thing you have?Im not understanding what you will be doing with the metal screen..... it seems the O+ will pick up an electron or 2 from it and revert back to normal O2 or...... how does the metal screen function and what effect will nitrogen have on O+, or what effect will your airgass processor have on the nitrogen molecule? Nitrogen moleculess exposed to certain wavelengths in some circumstances will emit I think the paper said soft xrays, some kinda xray..... I appologize in advance if any of those questions have already been answered..... I'll read some more.... H20, are you the same guy that has the Tesla spark going thru a column of water?

[TRON]

@newguy

The metal screen has a positive potential and is an electron sink, not an electron source...it consumes the electrons before they have a chance to form or cause the formation of OZONE ( O3 )...

[h20power]

H2O

Great Posts here!!!

I have done much research on the Oxygen atom but have not been able to understand why you chose the wavelengths you did? Can you explain?

I took my cues from mother nature for the most part sort-of like following the works of viktor. Singlet oxygen was my first find, the next was the abora lights, and the last that I didn't use was from a NASA study on the eigth energy level of oxygen but the level is not needed and deemed too dangerous to deal with. Now searching for the LEDs was a job as hard as the research into the oxygen atom. Main reason is clear, if you don't hit the atom at the correct wavelengths the atom absorbs all efforts will in vien. The wavelengths have to be right on the money or nothing will happen, so for example if ones just buys any red LEDs most are out of range thus will not work on the targeted oxygen atoms.

I also made a historical study of LED to see just what Stanley Meyer had to choose from in his time. That is one reason I don't worry about the LEDs all that much for the ones we now have are far more effient than the old ones in his time. Back in his day you could look directly into a LED light, try that with the ones I brought and will need medical attention to save what vision you might have left in that eye. So again I don't worry about the LEDs for technology on them has advanced much.

And I would like to say your welcome to the thank you's and to thank those who helped me in my time of need.


h2opower.

[h20power]

No I am not the person the used the Tesla coil on the water. My You tube name is h2opower and I did run some test on the effects of vacuum on electrolysis again like done here with math and science. I have not made a video for some time for this work on Meyer technology can get one into trouble just like Ravi found out, and he didn't even get it running to it's fullest potienal. So I decided to take a different tack and open this thread and teach those willing to learn. Here I have been able to go over the math that goes with the patents and a lot more. You Tube is not the right place to teach something this world changing when it is just getting off the ground again since the death of Stanley Meyer here in America.

And Tron is right about the EEC so encurage you to keep reading. The summary I posted can help fast but in the thread I went over a lot in this thread that can also help one to understand the water for fuel technology a bit more.

Right now I am getting help with the electronics I once that is complete I should be ready for engine trials very soon afterwards. Yes, even I need help and I am not ashame to accept help for I don't have all the answers, but understanding just what Stan did yes I understand it and hope anyone reading this also gain an understanding.


h2opower.

Im wandering stuff too.... like if what you are try'n to do is make possitive Oxygen ions ..... ( that is the end result isnt it ) seems like there would be simpler ways than using LEDS and all that .... If you have an atom that has less electrons than protons it will have a possitive charge and that simply seems to be what the end result is.... or are you removing protons as well? Seems like the point of the EEC is to give each atom / ion a possitive charge so they repell from each other .... an oxygen atom having less electrons than protons ....it takes on a possitive charge. Would a possitive ion generator be a starting point for those of us that cant readily build the kinda thing you have?Im not understanding what you will be doing with the metal screen..... it seems the O+ will pick up an electron or 2 from it and revert back to normal O2 or...... how does the metal screen function and what effect will nitrogen have on O+, or what effect will your airgass processor have on the nitrogen molecule? Nitrogen moleculess exposed to certain wavelengths in some circumstances will emit I think the paper said soft xrays, some kinda xray..... I appologize in advance if any of those questions have already been answered..... I'll read some more.... H20, are you the same guy that has the Tesla spark going thru a column of water?

[NewGuy]

The metal screen has a positive potential and is an electron sink, not an electron source...it consumes the electrons before they have a chance to form or cause the formation of OZONE ( O3 )...

Im not quiet following how that little screen can sinc electrons ..... guess I need to read more, but as far as ozone is concerned... ozone can have a possitive charge as well, in fact most of the ozone in our upper atmosphere is possitive charged.

[h20power]

@NewGuy,

The EEC works by magnetic attraction in that the electrons have a negetive charge at the pulsing on the grid system has a positive charge. It is pulsed opposite the pulsing of the gas processor. So the positive of the gas processor and the sceen mess grid can have the same connection. Since the gas processor's pulsed voltage is isolated from the electronics of the system due the VIC transformer since the only connection is an inductive coupling from the primary coil.

Hope that helps your understanding better,


h2opower.

[CPU3rother]

Thank you for sharing your hard work H2. Someday we need to get together for a beer.

-CT

Count me in!

[pmazz850]

Huh?

@NewGuy,

The EEC works by magnetic attraction in that the electrons have a negetive charge at the pulsing on the grid system has a positive charge. It is pulsed opposite the pulsing of the gas processor. So the positive of the gas processor and the sceen mess grid can have the same connection. Since the gas processor's pulsed voltage is isolated from the electronics of the system due the VIC transformer since the only connection is an inductive coupling from the primary coil.

Hope that helps your understanding better,


h2opower.

If the GP is pulsed opposite the EEC, then how can they share a connection? Wouldn't the EEC be able to share a connection with the LED's? Also the EEC is pulsed low voltage, isn't it?

[h20power]

If the GP is pulsed opposite the EEC, then how can they share a connection? Wouldn't the EEC be able to share a connection with the LED's? Also the EEC is pulsed low voltage, isn't it?

It can do so because the gas processor is an isolated circuit. When the gas processor turns off there is no negetive for the non-isolated positive to work with other than the electrons that got knocked off. If the negetive is grounded when the EEC turns on a voltage potential differance will be present if it is an isolated circuit then nothing will happen. This is how the system works and it is also why the EEC in the WFC can share the positive connection with the VIC transformer. For when the EEC turns on there is no connection made to complete the circuit other than the ions present in the WFC. As you can see being an isolated circuit is very important for if it is not an isolated circuit things happen that you do not want to happen. It is easier to see in the WFC than it is the gas processor for if you ground the negetive when the positive of the EEC turns on all you will get is standered Dr. Faraday type of electrolysis. So isolation of the gap processor, water fuel injectors, and water fuel capacitor is a must or it wil not work as intended. Understanding this is a must or you will not get it to work correctly.

I hope this aided everyones understanding of the need for be an isolated circuit, and no sharing a connection with the LEDs,


h2opower.

[h20power]

Just to remind everyone reading this thread sebofato was put on the ignor list and if you want the thread to read smoothly I sugest you to do the same for I just went over the importance of making sure it was an isolated circuit and gave explainations for it. Then he comes and throws in something clearly out of left field.

Once bosi04 adds in some values to figure 4 that will complete the circuit for use with the gas processor and water fuel injector. The injectors don't need LEDs, but if you want them to have some add them the circuit will control them.

Truth be told I wish he would stop posting on my thread as it is very distracting to those reading the whole thread.


h2opower.

[HMS-776]

For those of us who are planning on building the GP with a smaller gap between the tubes I don't believe Light guides will be able to be used because of the plasma temperatures. Stan's patent which shows the GP drawings 5,293,857 shows what looks to be a glass tube seperating the LED's from the voltage zones, electrically & thermally insulating them.

Another thing which I am not sure of but seems may be needed is an electronic butterfly valve as the oxygen levels are different when burning hydrogen. From the looks of some of Stan's pictures and circuits it seems like he had an electronic butterfly valve of some sort, but I may be wrong.