Stanley Meyer Explained

[CPU3rother]

Air is about 23-24% oxygen by mass dependent on moisture content.

[sebosfato]

@ sebosfato

After reading the the links above, tell me again about the resonance Stan talked about.
Oh and by the way I invented the light bulb. I just didn't tell anyone until just now.
hahaha

I didn't understood the relation of the links to what i said anyway find out my first post on this thread and check what i said there...
i invite you to just read my thread and you will understand what i'm talking about. oh and you are going to understand probably how the gas processor works too and how stanley meyer hided his technology from people that don't read the right books.

Even MIT demonstration of resonant circuit Limit your imagine. so think well about this. Is the education involved in supression of this technology too???
I guess so

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...eyer-true.html

[tutanka]

@ tutanka
Can you explain to me how you will maintain the high engine temps you will need when the water will be caring all the heat out the exhaust. If you do run that hot how will you stop engine failure?
Why would you focus on N2O for use as an oxidant when you could just focus on the O which is a much better oxidant until you get to much higher temps.
Just so I'm clear about what your proposing. Your saying we should input energy to split H2O then we let some of that energy go to waste when it reforms into N2O. At this point we use the heat from combustion to release the Oxygen in the N2O so that it can then react with H2. " Nitrogen was discovered by Daniel Rutherford in Scotland in 1772. Rutherford removed oxygen and carbon dioxide from air and showed that the residual gas could not support combustion or living organisms. He called his discovery noxious air. " Again, why not just focus on the Oxygen in the first place since it is the oxidizer in N2O anyway? Additionally even if it was an Nitrogen was an Oxidizer it is more stable than Oxygen because of its electron configuration and therefore surprisingly harder to ionize as it is explained in this link.

Please see over diagram

[Oneminde]

CPU3rother

@ Oneminde

I didn't respond to one of your previous posts because you had made up your mind and didn't appear to be interested anymore. I'm touching on it now because you have brought it up again.
Your UVC light source is not coherent light. You will get results with it, but at what input cost? There are a number of reasons to go with a LASER ( Light Amplification by Stimulated Emition). I just gave you one. This is another since you talked about multiphoton ionization but miss coherence.
Resonance enhanced multiphoton ionization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and this entire page.
Quantum properties of light

And the GP becomes the laser tube and the air is the medium.

As i have come to understand, REMPI and the creation of Rydberg Molecules (Feild Ionization by HV) is the methode for the GP. "My" UVC source have an ionization range of 100-280nm and peaks at 254nm - that is in one sence multiphotonization. Together whit HV and HIGH energy state photons, ionization according to known science will take place.
As long as you use more then ONE specific wavelenght photon you use multiphotonization.

IF you hade a singel photon whit the right wave lenght (like 91,2nm for the 1'st ionization) that whould work - but unless you have that, then Multi + HV is needed...

IF i am wrong in this - do reply and correct me!

There are alot of attack's today...

[CPU3rother]

As i have come to understand, REMPI and the creation of Rydberg Molecules (Feild Ionization by HV) is the methode for the GP. "My" UVC source have an ionization range of 100-280nm and peaks at 254nm - that is in one sence multiphotonization. Together whit HV and HIGH energy state photons, ionization according to known science will take place.
As long as you use more then ONE specific wavelenght photon you use multiphotonization.

IF you hade a singel photon whit the right wave lenght (like 91,2nm for the 1'st ionization) that whould work - but unless you have that, then Multi + HV is needed...

IF i am wrong in this - do reply and correct me!

There are alot of attack's today...

You can have MPI with the same wavelenght. I'm not going to try and point it out anymore. Quantum processes
Read about stimulated emission and then Florecence like you intend to use.

[h20power]

I took a look at the reactions between Nitrogen and Oxygen and found they don't combine like that, N2O is derived from mostly amonia, and I posted some of what I found. You have to also keep in mind the oxygen that being used to make N2O is coming from the 21% of the oxygen in the air we breath. But as I stated earlyer the two elements don't combine that way. So conservation of mass tells me this can not take place for the mass of the oxygen going into the system in his theory is part of the mass in the whole system 21% of oxygen. So his theory breaks down for the two atoms are not going to combine in the Gas Processor, and if they did there would be no net gain in oxygen for the oxygen used came from the 21% of oxygen in the air to start off with. The Gas Processor does not create oxygen, you get to use only what is found in the air. The Gas Processor in combination with the Electron Extraction Circuit and Coherent light, stripps the electrons from the atoms making them smaller and uping their energy content in a process known as "Non-sequential ionization." His theory has magic in it and therfore belongs in Hollywood for the said atoms Nitrogen and Oxygen don't combine in that fassion to produce N2O and there would be no net gain in the amount of oxygen in the system for it is all coming from the same 21% supply. Do I make myself clear on this?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


h2opower.

@tutanka, I already did and this will be the last time I speak of it and to you.

[h20power]

I took a look at the reactions between Nitrogen and Oxygen and found they don't combine like that, N2O is derived from mostly amonia, and I posted some of what I found. You have to also keep in mind the oxygen that being used to make N2O is coming from the 21% of the oxygen in the air we breath. But as I stated earlyer the two elements don't combine that way. So conservation of mass tells me this can not take place for the mass of the oxygen going into the system in his theory is part of the mass in the whole system 21% of oxygen. So his theory breaks down for the two atoms are not going to combine in the Gas Processor, and if they did there would be no net gain in oxygen for the oxygen used came from the 21% of oxygen in the air to start off with. The Gas Processor does not create oxygen, you get to use only what is found in the air. The Gas Processor in combination with the Electron Extraction Circuit and Coherent light, stripps the electrons from the atoms making them smaller and uping their energy content in a process known as "Non-sequential ionization." His theory has magic in it and therfore belongs in Hollywood for the said atoms Nitrogen and Oxygen don't combine in that fassion to produce N2O and there would be no net gain in the amount of oxygen in the system for it is all coming from the same 21% supply. Do I make myself clear on this?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


h2opower.

@tutanka, I already did and this will be the last time I speak of it and to you.

Oh and yes it is 23.1% by mass since I was talking about the conservation of mass, thanks for the correction CPU3rother.

[tutanka]

@tutanka, I already did and this will be the last time I speak of it and to you.

Oh and yes it is 23.1% by mass since I was talking about the conservation of mass, thanks for the correction.

If you don't want lsten me no problem.. I have only advise you.. If HV is used into GP this as result produce NO and NO2 and no more of O3.. When you ionize Oxygen you spilt oxygen.. Yes.. because oabient air is present O2 molecular oxygen not atomic. You can dream and live mentally on Mars but in fcat you live on Earth. Who wants to understand understands!

[h20power]

CPU3rother,

That was some very good reading you posted and I would kiss you if I could for you are keeping your cool far better than me with all these attacks.

Taken from SMTB page 3-23
In retrospect to operational parameters, led's
(118) light spectrum (extending from the visible into the Ultraviolet light region) can be selected
for a given or predetermined electromagnetically gas priming application (280) since gas nucleus
(108) is more responsive to coherent rather than diffused light source.

Notice in the patent is says to use coherent light and if you read all of 3 you will learn why the electron extraction circuit is needed for the whole process to work. And I add if you wanted to you can set up an amp meter and a volt meter to read how much energy you pull from the air and/or water bath as in the case of the WFC. The electron extraction circuit is very important, for if you build any of Meyer's devices without it they will not work as intented or at all. This is the part where I say following the rules comes into play.

Thanks for the good reading I enjoyed it very much.


h2opower.

[CPU3rother]

If you don't want lsten me no problem.. I have only advise you.. If HV is used into GP this as result produce NO and NO2 and no more of O3.. When you ionize Oxygen you spilt oxygen.. Yes.. because oabient air is present O2 molecular oxygen not atomic. You can dream and live mentally on Mars but in fcat you live on Earth. Who wants to understand understands!

We all live on earth... Spliting O2 and forming O3 are not the same. In my profetion I work with O# all the time. Just becuse you split O2 dosnt mean you make O3. you are missing one of the 3 most fundamental points of the GP and WFC

CPU3rother,

That was some very good reading you posted and I would kiss you if I could for you are keeping your cool far better than me with all these attacks.


Notice in the patent is says to use coherent light and if you read all of 3 you will learn why the electron extraction circuit is needed for the whole process to work. And I add if you wanted to you can set up an amp meter and a volt meter to read how much energy you pull from the air and/or water bath as in the case of the WFC. The electron extraction circuit is very important, for if you build any of Meyer's devices without it they will not work as intented or at all. This is the part where I say following the rules comes into play.

Thanks for the good reading I enjoyed it very much.


h2opower.

Thanks for the kind words. Just telling it how I see it. I do agree with Oneminde that the non coherent light will work to ionize the oxygen I just disagee about how effective it will be.

PS.
Keeping your cool is a gift and not somthing you should take on alone

[tutanka]

We all live on earth... Spliting O2 and forming O3 are not the same. In my profetion I work with O# all the time. Just becuse you split O2 dosnt mean you make O3. you are missing one of the 3 most fundamental points of the GP and WFC

Thanks for the kind words. Just telling it how I see it. I do agree with Oneminde that the non coherent light will work to ionize the oxygen I just disagee about how effective it will be.

PS.
Keeping your cool is a gift and not somthing you should take on alone

You reply but don't have idea about reactions.. If you ionize O2 you destabilize O2 and obtain O+O but O react immediately with O2 forming O3, in this way the reaction is O + O2 → O3. As written O3 is very instable oxygen molecule and is this to react with water mist inside injector throught HV.

The right reaction when O3 is formed is: O2 + O + M → O3 + M

Where "M" once again denotes the third body that carries off the excess energy of the reaction. In this way, the chemical energy released when O and O2 combine is converted into kinetic energy of molecular motion.
With GP you create artificially the same condition of Sun as you can see in this image..

[h20power]

A little feed back please

I would like some feed back on the summary I wrote. Things I am looking for are like this; Is it helpfull towards one understanding the works of Stanley Meyer? Is there something in it that lacks clarity and needs to be possibly reworded? Does it give an overall view of Stanley Meyer's water fuel injection system and water for fuel technology in genaral? Are each of the componets gone over with enough detail as to tell it's functionality as part of the whole system? Is it clear enough to gain an understanding of how Stanley Meyer made use of water as a source of fuel?

The reason I ask these questions is no one ever talks about it directly. With the recient attacks on the main theory I have base all of my work around it seems clear there is a lot of missunderstandings with the way I show Stanley Meyer's technology to work in the summary.

People seem to be building things incompletely, like gas processors with no EEC, or WFC's with no EEC. Even it seems people might be planning on building the injectors with no EEC in them. Some have come on and said that their EEC is working fine, that is to say it is lighting up the bulb and that is great news, but somehow seems to be overlooked by the masses. So some people do get that without the EEC none of this will work but I am wondering if I didn't make that clear in my summary?

The purpose of the summary is to give everyone that reads it a very good understanding as to just how Stanley Meyer made use of water as a source of fuel. If you ask me, it seems like I have failed in that mission and that the marjority that read it leave with little to no understanding of how Meyers did it. I am asking for your help so people that do read this thread can get started on their way towards a life free of the energy enslavers. I know one thing I do require is for people to think on their own, is that asking too much of people? I set up an engineering/back yards builders challange to get people started on building their own units of freedom, but it seems most just want something they can copy and if it breaks and/or they mess something up and it doesn't work look me up and ask me how to fix it or just build another one when it fails.

Belive me someone has already ask why the unit they built is not working, like I am supposed to read their minds on how they built their units. They tell me nothing of the circuitry they built, and from what they ask I assume they thought the EEC was totally unnessacary and cut it out of their designs altogether. Some want to use other than coherent light as Stanley Meyer said is better to use in the patents, will they too be asking me why it isn't working after they build it? For the one thing I know I said is that light used has to be pulsed. Some people want to make use of ozone, will they ask why all of their seals failed after the ozone has eatin through them and/or try to sue me when the engine gets oxidized to the point of failure? Will they ask why the aluminium head melted when they try reactions Stanley Meyer did not and that I spoke nothing about and/or warned against? I could go on and on with questions like these for there seems to be no end to it.

I am not asking for your money, just your honesty or is that also to much to ask?


h2opower.

[boguslaw]

Example is worth more then 1000 words. A tiny WFC with EEC will be IDEAL
Powered by small 9V battery or even self-powered

[tutanka]

I would like some feed back on the summary I wrote. Things I am looking for are like this; Is it helpfull towards one understanding the works of Stanley Meyer? Is there something in it that lacks clarity and needs to be possibly reworded? Does it give an overall view of Stanley Meyer's water fuel injection system and water for fuel technology in genaral? Are each of the componets gone over with enough detail as to tell it's functionality as part of the whole system? Is it clear enough to gain an understanding of how Stanley Meyer made use of water as a source of fuel?

The reason I ask these questions is no one ever talks about it directly. With the recient attacks on the main theory I have base all of my work around it seems clear there is a lot of missunderstandings with the way I show Stanley Meyer's technology to work in the summary.

People seem to be building things incompletely, like gas processors with no EEC, or WFC's with no EEC. Even it seems people might be planning on building the injectors with no EEC in them. Some have come on and said that their EEC is working fine, that is to say it is lighting up the bulb and that is great news, but somehow seems to be overlooked by the masses. So some people do get that without the EEC none of this will work but I am wondering if I didn't make that clear in my summary?

The purpose of the summary is to give everyone that reads it a very good understanding as to just how Stanley Meyer made use of water as a source of fuel. If you ask me, it seems like I have failed in that mission and that the marjority that read it leave with little to no understanding of how Meyers did it. I am asking for your help so people that do read this thread can get started on their way towards a life free of the energy enslavers. I know one thing I do require is for people to think on their own, is that asking too much of people? I set up an engineering/back yards builders challange to get people started on building their own units of freedom, but it seems most just want something they can copy and if it breaks and/or they mess something up and it doesn't work look me up and ask me how to fix it or just build another one when it fails.

Belive me someone has already ask why the unit they built is not working, like I am supposed to read their minds on how they built their units. They tell me nothing of the circuitry they built, and from what they ask I assume they thought the EEC was totally unnessacary and cut it out of their designs altogether. Some want to use other than coherent light as Stanley Meyer said is better to use in the patents, will they too be asking me why it isn't working after they build it? For the one thing I know I said is that light used has to be pulsed. Some people want to make use of ozone, will they ask why all of their seals failed after the ozone has eatin through them and/or try to sue me when the engine gets oxidized to the point of failure? Will they ask why the aluminium head melted when they try reactions Stanley Meyer did not and that I spoke nothing about and/or warned against? I could go on and on with questions like these for there seems to be no end to it.

I am not asking for your money, just your honesty or is that also to much to ask?


h2opower.

Anything want attack Meyer OR YOU.. I want only understand better the right reactions inside GP. This must be appreciated from you. However I think Ozone is important in Meyer process.. with photon/hv ionization and EEC you obtain oxygen destabilized yes.. but also NO and NO2. My reflection is this because the GP not have catalized for absorb nitrogen. Thanks for read me

[h20power]

Example is worth more then 1000 words. A tiny WFC with EEC will be IDEAL
Powered by small 9V battery or even self-powered

Hi Boguslaw,

Since we go way back I truly value what you say and I hear you. But I am asking about the summary, is it clear? or should I just stop posting until a video is made and then say read the summary? Once I get my car running I will not be around for questioning as I have many things to do once I get it up and running. Will people be able to replecate Stanley Meyers work without me? For I will be free of the energy enslavers, and I intend on living my life to the fullest after I get it running, and that leaves no time for any more teachings if all goes according to plan. This technology has consumed my life for the several years, and when I get it working I intend on moving on with my life free of it too. So the real question I guess I have is will people be able to get Stanley Meyers water for fuel technology up and runing by reading the summary and only seeing a video of it running for motivation to get off their asses and take charge of their own lives? Will it motivate you?

Getting ready to live my life again,

h2opower.