Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

that would mean your VIC Secondary and Chokes are placed into 14 cavities with an extra cavity (#15) cut on the choke bobbin for the separate pulse pickup???

You are correct in that it has 14 spaces, one space is for the pickup coil the other 13 are for the chokes, with the second choke wraped right on top of the pickup coil. Remember this type of transformer builds it's high voltage by capcitive reactance X1•X2•X3 and so on since all the inductance are roughly the same you can think of it as X^n where 'n' is the number of bobbin cavities total. So for this transformer that would X^41 but for me since I also wraped the secondary bifilar mine is X^55. The transformers are almost the same as a police tazar gun the only difference is the way the chokes are wired for a magnetic amp reduction. I have even found dome bug zapers that use the same type of transformer, but for the most part they are uncomon in eletrical circuits due what is called run away voltage problems.

On the parts list someone else is going to have to do it or everyone has to wait for me to get my PC fixed. Plus I just found out that the box with in/out & out/in is an electronic switch from bussi04 and I don't know which one to buy as of yet. When I know you'll know, okay?

As for me I took only what I needed to modifiy an existing cars system with Meyer technology. We all have to remember that
these circuits where meant for use with the WFC and gaseous type injectors. The circuits for the gas processor and water fuel injectors never came out as far as I know so we have to do the best we know how.

I hope this helped,

h2opower

[gpssonar]

@H20power
The FET i used for the in out switch is a CD4016 a CD4066 should also work.

[h20power]

@H20power
The FET i used for the in out switch is a CD4016 a CD4066 should also work.

Thanks so much, once I get my PC back I will order everything. I just hope the PC is fixable. It's interesting that something like that switch was a mystery to me this goes to show that even if you are good with science circuits are a whole other ballpark. Again thanks for the help

h2opower.

[bussi04]

figure 12 A41 thru A43

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@ All:
Anyone know what A41 thru A42 are? on figure 12?
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any theories out there?

I think A41 thru A43 are 74C93 4 bit binary counter:
MM74C90N pdf, MM74C90N description, MM74C90N datasheets, MM74C90N view ::: ALLDATASHEET :::

greetings,
bussi04

[gpssonar]

@Bussi04
In Fig.5 cell driving circuit are the three diodes on the primary all high voltage diodes?

[bussi04]

@Bussi04
In Fig.5 cell driving circuit are the three diodes on the primary all high voltage diodes?

I donīt know how the VIC as a non-current operating transformer reacts during pulse off time. So we have to test and measure the voltage backdraft in primary off pulse condition. Iīll figure out an optical isolation for the primary coil driver circuit via optocouplers so that there are no worst case collateral damages in subsequent circuits. But first I have to build my VIC then I can test it.
My best guess up to now: 200Volts 5Amps or alike at 13.8V supply voltage.

greetings,
bussi04

[sebosfato]

During pulse of time (I found that the diode on the primary that stan show allow the energy in excess going into the primary to go to the back to the battery and a bank of capacitors, doing so there is no pulse of time both pulses occurs a sine wave I used 20x 4007 diodes in parallel and big capacitance values) If you think about Here is the electron extraction topology. The capacitors are needed because battery have a certain resistance so you would not have much success.

I'm going to design thinking this way the electron extraction circuit. However did you understood that high current caring
Conductors are needed.

The transformer offer a very high impedance to the resonant circuit because diode blocks the current from changing polarity the energy have just one way to go. Stan said the field collapses ad a second pulse is generated i believe energy is stored in the magnetic field and is applied when the next pulse arrives check it mount it the way i say connect it to a resonant tank and see the results...

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[sebosfato]

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[bussi04]

Gas Processor & Photon Driver Circuit

Why use non-free limited demo versions for open source research, when you can use cross platform (Linux, MAC, M$) intuitive, free, full fledged open source program for diagrams and PCB layout. You can even see your PCB in 3D view.

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All kicad files are open format text files, which makes them very suited for version control.
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Eric

@Tecstatic
Thanks for the great tip . I have installed KiCAD for Windows and made my first steps.

@all
I have set up a first beta version of our circut layout. When I have built up the circuit and have tested the connectivity of the devices I will upload the KiCAD files so that you can replicate, change or expand them by yourselves .

Have fun with the appended pics.

greetings,
bussi04

[h20power]

Thanks Bussi04,
If you can make a one sided version that would be great for those of us that can't make a two sided print circuit board. I really need to get my PC back so I can get back in the game for with all the people trully aiding this technology it shows the true spirit of the best of humanity. Once this is done correctly everyone will have a circuit that has real promise to replecate Meyers work. I guess all was needed was for someone to start giving away large parts of Meyer technology as I gave away all the science and the good of others is so clear as the last part I had problems with, circuits, everyone that can is stepping up to the plate to aid humanity get the much needed energy independence. Thanks to everyone that put humanity first ahead of personal gain and greed. Thanks!

h2opower.

[h20power]

Hi Bussi04,
When looking at the circuit I noticed that the LED and EEC share the same FET. That should be changed so that each is working indipendently of each other only sharing the same input signal. I have some FET driver chips that might do the trick or anything that will seperate the two so one doesn't mess up the others function, even an LED driver(s) that can handle 96 LEDs will do. But I can't afford the EEC finding it's own ground other than the electrons of the system that are intended to comeplete the circuit. Thanks for all of your hard work, I thank you, the world thanks you

Energy independence is now ours for the taking,

h2opower.

[bussi04]

Hi Bussi04,
When looking at the circuit I noticed that the LED and EEC share the same FET. That should be changed so that each is working indipendently of each other only sharing the same input signal. I have some FET driver chips that might do the trick or anything that will seperate the two so one doesn't mess up the others function, even an LED driver(s) that can handle 96 LEDs will do. But I can't afford the EEC finding it's own ground other than the electrons of the system that are intended to comeplete the circuit. Thanks for all of your hard work, I thank you, the world thanks you

Energy independence is now ours for the taking,

h2opower.

Hi H20power,

of course you are right, the EEC driver must be galvanically separated from the main electronic circuit, main circuit power supply and from all system ground. so I have cut this part off the main circuit board and put it into the VIC EEC HV section. The optocoupler must be high speed and maybe high voltage ( http://www.vishay.com/docs/81331/sfh6755t.pdf ). the whole EEC driver circuit must be tested until it really works ( weird stuff - darlington circuit Q1 grounded by flying electrons so much fun!)

Maybe there must be a second electronic switch for the upper choke.
Up yet I have connected isolated +12V supply for the darlington to TP2. The "sweeping EEC grid" differs from Meyers design so it may be that isolated +12V has to be connected to somewhere else?!?

Last but not least timing might have to be changed (more differentiated) if an ordinary inverted signal of the cell driver pulse doesnīt fit.

all will be tested soon

please have a look at the attatchment.

greetings,
bussi04

[bussi04]

Hi Bussi04,
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I have some FET driver chips that might do the trick
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h2opower.

I read the article about the white LEDs some time ago. I canīt find the article but as far as i have in mind there are two reasons why such a driver is useful:

1. white leds are compositions of 3 semiconductor beamers and their color change from white to another color when the voltage/current changes (battery operation)
2. change of intensity is realised by PWM (pulse wide modulation)

I think we donīt need those drivers: neither current change due to voltage drift nor dimming modulation will take place. PWM by a led driver would have us loose control on the modulation timing. the only reason I could imagine to use such a driver is some very special kind of leds which dramatically changes resitance while getting warm. to avoid damage in that case a limiting driver device might be necessary (depends on led data sheet).

so I think that 1 power transistor or power darlington will do the job for many paralleel leds. if 2 or 3 different led types are used maybe with different currents only the resistor must be adapted.
for comparing operation it may be useful to use 2 or 3 transistors so that leds can be switched in groups and ionisation can be measured depending on led conditions.

for letīs say 96 leds the resistor array should be on a separate circuit board I think. maybe useful to put the resistors on the led circuit board as meyer did. so they can be grouped and there are no 96 single connection cables necessary.

greetings,
bussi04

[h20power]

The pulsing of the EEC & the LEDs are 180 degrees from the pulsing of the primary coil. That is why I ask HMS-776 to move the position of the EEC & LEDs to the switch for right there is where the pulsing is opposite to each other. Now this is important due to the way Meyer placed the secondary as an isolated circuit for when the pulse ends there is no negetive and electrons are free to move through the system. In the WFC that makes all the difference in the world but it is harder to see in use for the GP & WFIs. But that's what gain from the patents of Stanley Meyer's.

When taking a deeper look at the GP I found out it recreating the conditions of the auroa lights for that is mother natures way to ionize the oxygen atoms, and all the componets are there in the GP. In the auroa lights the inoization is perpendicular to the magnetic field and that means in the GP it is going in the direction of the air flow. Anyway I thought that was an interesting find that everyone might also be interested in knowing.

Oh, the switch is to be removed where it says switch in the circuit posted, I don't think I mentioned that before.

h2opower.

[Tecstatic]

Thanks Bussi04,
If you can make a one sided version that would be great for those of us that can't make a two sided print circuit board. I really need to get my PC back so I can get back in the game for with all the people trully aiding this technology it shows the true spirit of the best of humanity. Once this is done correctly everyone will have a circuit that has real promise to replecate Meyers work. I guess all was needed was for someone to start giving away large parts of Meyer technology as I gave away all the science and the good of others is so clear as the last part I had problems with, circuits, everyone that can is stepping up to the plate to aid humanity get the much needed energy independence. Thanks to everyone that put humanity first ahead of personal gain and greed. Thanks!

h2opower.

Hi everyone

You don't need to be scared of a two sided PCB. If you can make a one sided board, you can also make a two sided. If you are interested, I will show how I do it.

Creating 1 layer PCB layouts is hard work, except from very simple circuits,
Two layer is more easy, and is also better protecting the components, especially with these kinds of circuits.

@bussi04

I'm glad you find the Kicad program useful. if you need some symbols or footprints, maybe I can help from my libraries.

Remember you can zip the entire directory you use for your project, and then it compacts nicely as it is text files. With the zipped directory is unzipped on another computer, you (or we) are ready to continue the work.

If you have extra components defined, then create your own libraries to store them, and include these libraries also.

I have not read the thread so far (been busy on other threads), so I can not comment on the circuit, or suggest how to simplify with a micro controller. But it is really amazing what is possible with a 4$ micro controller.

Doing circuits, I like the "mental" debug of the electronics before I build, debugged with the intended functionality in mind, trying to save extra correction layouts when possible.

Eric