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  • Originally posted by h20power View Post
    They might even go as far as to drop nukes by accident or mess up whole crops so that everyone starves to death and kill live stocks for the same purposes. The future they want means the death of you am me. For they want to kill up to 5 billion people or more, and right now they are setting up everything so they can do so. If America falls ecconomically we will take down most of the world bringing on mass starvation from the likes no one has ever seen since the 1400's a new dark age and this free energy technology threatens that game they want us all to play. The reason I tell you all of this is simple, I don't think you see the full picture of what is going on around you. And trust me this is just the tip of the iceberge. The best we can do is give the technology away for everyone we give it to we might just aswell have saved their lives.

    Now you see just a small part of what we are up against,

    h2opower.
    Yes you got, what i want to stop, i thought a lot about this things in the last years and thats why i started the project i took the blue pill too and started to see the things and people inside. And got worried when i looked at he past and thought about the future because soon we are not going to have for example water to drink soon and this is happening because of someone that wants it to be this way so can in the future they can sell uranium to move your car.
    In a near future they will try to sell us electric cars and than proton noise cars with photo-ionic motors and the cars will fly. And nothing is going to change until someone became giant as them and break this system thats the way i think. what do you think?

    The water is not the combustible is the energy carrier do you agree?

    thanks

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    • Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
      Yes you got, what i want to stop, i thought a lot about this things in the last years and thats why i started the project i took the blue pill too and started to see the things and people inside. And got worried when i looked at he past and thought about the future because soon we are not going to have for example water to drink soon and this is happening because of someone that wants it to be this way so can in the future they can sell uranium to move your car.
      In a near future they will try to sell us electric cars and than proton noise cars with photo-ionic motors and the cars will fly. And nothing is going to change until someone became giant as them and break this system thats the way i think. what do you think?

      The water is not the combustible is the energy carrier do you agree?

      thanks

      The only way someone will become as big as them is with the aid of the Internet, for that allows the people a voice outside of their control of the information highway. It is the only way for I have looked at all ways of this technology coming out any other way than what I am doing can and will be halted.

      The way this technology works has made water into a source of fuel, not an energy carrier. What this technology did on a basic level of understanding is change the environment in which the reaction takes place, in a controlled manor to one where water is combustible. It is the atmosphere that has been changed, and in doing so makes water flammable.

      As you can see we do not agree on the most important parts of this technology, those differences are;
      · 1. How it is to reach humanity.
      · 2. How the technology works as far as what it is actually doing.

      I did my homework and have been watching them(NWO) for quite some time. The best way to understand them and how they control the minds of the masses is through the proven works of one Edward Bernays, watch these videos:
      The Century Of The Self - Part 1 of 4 - By Adam Curtis
      The Century of the self 2 of 4
      The Century of the Self 3 of 4
      The Century of the self 4 of 4

      If you understand these videos your mind will be free, for this is taking the RED PILL. Free your mind.


      h2opower.

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      • HI H2OPOWER,

        You wrote:

        It is the atmosphere that has been changed, and in doing so makes water flammable.
        I need a little explaination about your words.. Air stripped of electrons and water charged negatively passed trought injector. Inside of this is present HV field. I need to understand this step better.. As you wrote when air ionized positively is mixed with water mist charged negatively it happens a reaction and water mist can be burned.. My question because then it is necessary HV field? Sorry but my mind don't understand it.. Thanks

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        • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
          HI H2OPOWER,

          You wrote:



          I need a little explaination about your words.. Air stripped of electrons and water charged negatively passed trought injector. Inside of this is present HV field. I need to understand this step better.. As you wrote when air ionized positively is mixed with water mist charged negatively it happens a reaction and water mist can be burned.. My question because then it is necessary HV field? Sorry but my mind don't understand it.. Thanks
          It all helps the reaction take place easyer. For if you have some free hydrogen then the reaction once sparked off or heat ignited will start burning and in doing so kick off the hydrogen fracturing process. Remember it's all percentages, higher percentages of ionized gases and free hydrogen means that the ionized gases that do react with the free hydrogen doesn't expend 1836 kJ/mol in breaking the water molecule down resulting in more power or energy density to be used for propeling the car. Remember the math I posted is a worste case possiblity in that 100% of the ionized gases have to break down the water molecule, the injectors break down some of the water molecules resulting in a higher energy density for the system. And that is what we want a higher energy density, and without the hydrogen I don't think you could heat ignite the mixture, but that has to be tested out for I don't have a diesel engine I am working with.

          Hope that helps,

          h2opower.
          Last edited by h20power; 04-22-2009, 06:11 PM.

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          • Sugestions

            h2o any suggestions?
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            • HI Again,
              In this way you make me to understand that water is charged from HV field inside injector and when air ionized it is mixed the hydrogen is released.Is correct? Thanks for your support

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              • Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
                h2o any suggestions?

                Follow Stanley Meyer on the isolated part of the VIC circuit and do not deviate from what he has in his patents until test show otherwise.

                This is a circuit I am looking at though it needs some work but it looks promising.

                and also taking some of these two and puting them all together:





                And for tutanka,
                The water fuel injector break the bonds of the water molecule all by themselves releasing hydrgen and oxygen by letting the voltage do the work. For once the water passes the high voltage zone it picks up an image charge opposite to the voltage zone and evaperation of the water molecule allow voltage to preform work in breaking down the water molecule, but as I said it is in percentages for not every water molecule is going to break up into hydrogen and oxygen.

                The ionzied air gases have the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule but they need help in the form of spark or heat ignition.

                These two are working seperately and together at the same time to yeild more energy density than either of them could make on their own.

                Hope that aids you understanding of it all,

                h2opower.

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                • H2O, should we be using a tapered cavity or straight for the injector? I was reading over the patent an the mention of the tapered cavity. Also the vic he describes with the stainless wire. So basically you constructed your vic exactly as in that patent except you used copper wire? Is Stan describing a different process with the tapered design or is it just a variation? The process seems similar but slightly different. As you know Stan can be a little hard to understand. Can you shed some light on this for me?

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                  • Originally posted by pmazz850 View Post
                    H2O, should we be using a tapered cavity or straight for the injector? I was reading over the patent an the mention of the tapered cavity. Also the vic he describes with the stainless wire. So basically you constructed your vic exactly as in that patent except you used copper wire? Is Stan describing a different process with the tapered design or is it just a variation? The process seems similar but slightly different. As you know Stan can be a little hard to understand. Can you shed some light on this for me?

                    The tappered injectors by design let the voltage preform work as the area of the voltage zones are decreasing as the water passes through it. Now there are no drawings of the said tapper injectors so you will have to make the thing all from your own mind with the understanding of how it all works. If you have a space gap between 0.06-0.01 inches you need to use the SS wire. Then you have to get the capacitance of the injector you just built so you can match up a VIC transformer to it at what ever frequency you plan to use on it. It has to be done in that order, for I feel for the people that just build VIC transformers and then what it is going to be hooked up to next. For that is acting without thinking and hopeing for a lot of luck that it resonates at a frequency they can use. Things like that are supposed to be planned for before hand.

                    Now I am not doing things like Stanley Meyer did at all on this part, but I am obeying the rules of how to make micro-capacitors out of water is all I will say. And note there are two types of VIC transformers Stanley Meyer used. One is called the "VIC Voltage Circuit" and the other is called the "VIC Voltage Enhansement Circuit." The ladder is used for space gaps between 0.06-0.01 inches on either WFI's or WFC's, and the former is the all copper VIC transformer. I construct my VIC transformers to match what it is I will be hooking them up too for a planned frequency I will be using. I can make the VIC transformers any way that I like for I understand how they are to be built and I let everyone that has read this thread know how they are to be built. I try to stay away from using SS wire for it is not cost effective so all of my designs are made/planned to use the all copper VIC transformers. This way I keep everything cost effective for I am not rich by a long shot.

                    Hope that answers your questions,

                    h2opower.

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                    • And for tutanka,
                      The water fuel injector break the bonds of the water molecule all by themselves releasing hydrgen and oxygen by letting the voltage do the work. For once the water passes the high voltage zone it picks up an image charge opposite to the voltage zone and evaperation of the water molecule allow voltage to preform work in breaking down the water molecule, but as I said it is in percentages for not every water molecule is going to break up into hydrogen and oxygen.

                      The ionzied air gases have the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule but they need help in the form of spark or heat ignition.

                      These two are working seperately and together at the same time to yeild more energy density than either of them could make on their own.

                      Hope that aids you understanding of it all,
                      From Meyer scheme air ionized,water mist atomized and not combustible gas are mixed first to pass injector.. in this way air charged positively react with water charged negatively immediately first that water pass trought HV field of VIC.. if air charged react with water charged the result is hydrogen and oxygen .. however I think that not all water molecoles are break but in fact pass trought HV field also Hydrogen and not only water.. In this way I think that injector design must be revised.. However is apprecited your reply about that. Regards

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                      • HI H2OPOWER,
                        On scheme water,air and not combustible gas are mixed first. Reaction is started from all components but I think HV field have two functions.. Break all water molecoles and burn the mixture at the same time. But I'm sure that you can replace HV field generate from Vic with plasma ignition.Regards
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                        • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                          HI Again,
                          In this way you make me to understand that water is charged from HV field inside injector and when air ionized it is mixed the hydrogen is released.Is correct? Thanks for your support
                          Yes Tutanka, in the Water Fuel Injectors Meyer used an ingenious EEC....Ionized gasses.
                          Whenever air is passed through high voltage zones you get large amounts of Ozone. Ozone has a net positive charge and will oxidize (strip electrons) from almost everything. So when the TEMPORARY polarization of water occurs in the water capacitor section and the ionized air is present, the ionic gasses actually steal electrons from the covalent bond releasing gas...but take note that this is not the neutral product of electrolysis (ionic charges moving to opposite electrodes and neutralizing)....this process will leave the gasses missing electrons and will have net electrical charges and corresponding magnetic characteristics

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                          • Originally posted by Radiant_Science View Post
                            Yes Tutanka, in the Water Fuel Injectors Meyer used an ingenious EEC....Ionized gasses.
                            Whenever air is passed through high voltage zones you get large amounts of Ozone. Ozone has a net positive charge and will oxidize (strip electrons) from almost everything. So when the TEMPORARY polarization of water occurs in the water capacitor section and the ionized air is present, the ionic gasses actually steal electrons from the covalent bond releasing gas...but take note that this is not the neutral product of electrolysis (ionic charges moving to opposite electrodes and neutralizing)....this process will leave the gasses missing electrons and will have net electrical charges and corresponding magnetic characteristics
                            Mostly agree, But when air is passed through a high V zone you get mostly free radicals and not ozone. The Ozone is what you get when the newly made free radicals are allowed to to bond together.

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                            • Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
                              Mostly agree, But when air is passed through a high V zone you get mostly free radicals and not ozone. The Ozone is what you get when the newly made free radicals are allowed to to bond together.
                              I couldn't have put it better myself thanks for the answers those people needed.


                              h2opower.

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                              • Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
                                Mostly agree, But when air is passed through a high V zone you get mostly free radicals and not ozone. The Ozone is what you get when the newly made free radicals are allowed to to bond together.
                                I do not agree with this....because,
                                "A free radical is any atom or molecule that has a single unpaired electron in an outer shell. "

                                And, O3 or ozone is the pairing of 3 whole oxygen atoms. O2 + O....they all have 6 outer electrons. But, due to the tendency of an atom to fill it's outer shell, one of the oxygen atoms will accept an electron from two other oxygen atoms,....much like H20 bonding.


                                This can be done with AC or DC....and, to make Ozone, there needs to be an arc...either Hot (metal on metal) or cold plasma (single terminal bulbs capacitively discharging)

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