Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

I'm trying to decide on a circuit to build. I saw the three circuits posted by h2opower, but I don't know how to combine the three. I'm gonna build the one with the opposing square waves. Was just curious if the triple Pwm from bob's circuit could some how be used. So the circuit has to have its own ground block somewhere in the car that's not grounded to the car? H2o, would you care to show how to combine these circuits like you plan to?
I figured if you took the pwm3g and change the caps so all three frequency's matched at say 42.8kz, then inverted one of the three for the GP, then used the other two for the leds and the eec. Of course I wouldn't be using his torrid, just the pulsing unit.

I still haven't drawn up the circuit myself, its all in my head right now. Been very busy the past few weeks and have to do things one step at a time right now to make sure everything gets done. But you will have to use a VIC transformer and not Bob's torrid one, but a transformer has to be used for it is on the secondary's side that it is an isolated circuit not the primary's. As for the frequencies the VIC transformer doubles the frequency that is fed into it so you will have to half of what frequency you are planning to use.


h2opower.

[pmazz850]

Ok. Thanks for the info. As I have been following, you have been busy. Keep up the good work.

[TRON]

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When I talk about isolated system that is saying that nothing from the outside comes into direct contact with the secondary/chokes/blocking diode from any source. Not even the EEC is in contact with it. It can not be grounded with the car's systems or any other ground if used with a genarator. It is a stand alone system and nothing electrical must come into direct contact with it, this goes for the Gas Processor, water injectors, and the water fuel capacitor. That is how Stanley Meyer hooked everything up as best as I can tell. Now on the water fuel injectors that might not be true, but on the rest it is. ...

h2opower.

for the injectors to get a HV pulse from the VIC, since they are grounded to the engine chassis, there must be a ground from the vic circuit to engine chassis as well, your theory doesnt fit...sorry DC must have a return path ...

[TRON]

Please study science before posting...

pmazz850


As the negatively charged electrons are ionized from the oxygen atoms .....

For the betterment of all readers, please use correct scientific terminology...

Please understand ONLY AN ATOM can be made into an ION. It will be a Positive ION or a Negative ION (based on total net charge) . If electrons are removed from an atom it becomes a positive ION, if electrons are added to an atom it becomes a negative ION, when it balances and returns to its neutral ground state, it is no longer an ION... Electrons are NOT ionized!

[TRON]

about correct photon wavelength

HI, Thanks for submit this interested model.. but what is just wavelength for hydrogen?? First must be sended ionization of destabilization to hydrogen atom and after send photon? Is appreciated an reply..

There are certain photon wavelengths (visible spectrum) that will not eject an electron from its first orbit, only the resonant frequency, high voltage magnetic fields will help elongate the orbits and weaken the attraction between the electron and its proton in the first stage, after that most hydrogen atoms use anything from 640 nm to 240 nm to do this. But you must have the pulsing high voltage (2000 VDC) fields to assist. Sparking is a problem with hydrogen, so H2oPower is correct in using the ionized Ambient air and NOT hydrogen gases in the EEC /Gas Processor. BOOM !. So understand that after stressing the ambient air with high voltage fields, most photon wavelengths will kick the electrons into other higher orbital states or even knock them completely loose, that the closer the wavelength (smaller number) the higher amount of energy the photon has to do the kicking. Problem is that 240 nm is about the smallest wavelength we have at the moment and they are very expensive. I would try with the 28 cent LED's at 490 nm first (ultraviolet, barely visible) before spending the big bucks n a more powerful gas processor. Unless you want to of course!, please POST your results... The hydrogen model / applet is just something that i found that will help understand the easier Hydrogen atoms reaction to pure photon energy as a starting point. Since the neutral ground state of oxygen is with 2 atoms and 4 shared electrons in the second orbit ( i think) i believe that diatomic oxygen is harder to process. so higher voltages, shorter wavelengths and the EEC Screen closer to the output of the gas processor to extract the electrons while they are still free... might need to use a neon bulb or some other bulb to see the extracted electrons perform work... and remember theres a resonant frequency that must be found for oxygen that is different than the frequency for water, or hydrogen.... nobody said this would be easy!

update: Another version of Stan's patent remarked that the GAP DISTANCE between positive and negative plates is what determines the "resonant" frequency... it's almost as if his version of "resonance" was actually Cavitation!


Hydrogen Atom Simulator - Hydrogen Energy Levels - NAAP

start with 10.2 eV then any will work before electron decays (if you wait too long)...

[TRON]

ozone...

Combustion

Ozone can be used for combustion reactions and combusting gases; ozone provides higher temperatures than combusting in dioxygen (O2). The following is a reaction for the combustion of carbon subnitride which can also cause lower temperatures:

3 C4N2 + 4 O3 → 12 CO + 3 N2

Ozone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[TRON]

custom homemade cores!

Can anyone recommend a place to get the ec120 core needed for vic? Or possibly a different option for the core?

Here is a way to make a suitable EI core at home.... K.I.S.S .(stan meyers motto)
find some steel strapping, 3/4 inch. wrap it around a wooden block of your liking in a spiral fashion... borrow your neighbors wire feed welder and tack the coils together on both sides and at cut areas to prevent unwrapping. Get out your trusty bandsaw and slice those suckers in half! VIOLA! a custom EI core!
No need for flat laminations that are hard to find.... and this technique works for any size bobbin!

[sebosfato]

(96.485 kJ/mol = 1 eV/particle)

[pmazz850]

That doesn't look like it would be very efficient.

Here is a way to make a suitable EI core at home.... K.I.S.S .(stan meyers motto)
find some steel strapping, 3/4 inch. wrap it around a wooden block of your liking in a spiral fashion... borrow your neighbors wire feed welder and tack the coils together on both sides and at cut areas to prevent unwrapping. Get out your trusty bandsaw and slice those suckers in half! VIOLA! a custom EI core!
No need for flat laminations that are hard to find.... and this technique works for any size bobbin!

[TRON]

Efficient? hey check this out!

That doesn't look like it would be very efficient.

A Major transformer manufacturer uses this technique, heres their web page!
Magnetic Metals Nickel Lamination, Electromechanical Assemblies and Custom Annealing Service
1. Cost less than conventional double cut core. Producing one cut core and one "I" bar requires less tooling and is less time consuming than two cut cores, therefore the C-I core is less expensive to make than two cut cores.


2. The ease of copper coil winding. Since the "'I" bar is straight and has flat surfaces, the copper coil can be wound directly onto the "I" bar without having to make a bobbin. This will reduce the cost and simplify the production of prototypes significantly.


3. Reduction of the winding resistance. Since the "I" bar is removable, it can be smoothed out around the four edges (optional ) where the copper wires are wound which would reduce the the wire length and ultimately reduce the resistance of the winding.


4. Adjustable air gaps : For Inductors requiring air gaps, the insulation can be placed onto the "I" section to be used as air gaps.


5. Tighter tolerance: The tolerance only applies to one cut core instead of two as in the shell type, and the "I" bar is made of stacked up lamination in which the tolerance can be more accurately controlled to fit the bobbin.


6. Efficient assembly time: Normally the transformer using double cut cores required two clamping bands on each individual core as shown in Figure 2. The C-I core is held together by one clamping band as in Figures 3a & 3b

[h20power]

for the injectors to get a HV pulse from the VIC, since they are grounded to the engine chassis, there must be a ground from the vic circuit to engine chassis as well, your theory doesnt fit...sorry DC must have a return path ...

What theory? I said at the end it might not hold for the injectors. But since this is all capacitance and imagies charges there is no direct return path for the DC, just charging some voltage zones with a constant power supply and having a dielectric pass through the voltage zones.


h2opower.

[pmazz850]

oxygen wavelength info

Something I stumbled across while reading about oxygen. Found this second sentence interesting.
--The onset of vacuum UV, 200 nm, is defined by the fact that ordinary air is opaque below this wavelength. This opacity is due to the strong absorption of light of these wavelengths by oxygen in the air. Pure nitrogen (less than about 10 ppm oxygen) is transparent to wavelengths in the range of about 150-200 nm. This has wide practical significance now that semiconductor manufacturing processes are using wavelengths shorter than 200 nm. Here is the link to the articl
Ultraviolet Light Lamps Wavelengths Radiation Skin Uva Uvb

[rdmwc]

hey guys, i am having a difficult time trying to source a material for the flange or nipple of my g.p. i am looking for any form of high temp plastic or nylon style material. any help would be greatly appreciated! thank you!

[h20power]

Hi rdmwc,
I used delrin for mine, but nylon will also work fine. The other plastic I have to find out the name for you but it is tan in color and on the pricy side. Remember you want one with good electrical resistance qualities as it is acting as an insulator for our purposes. Hope that helped,


h2opower.

[rdmwc]

thank you h20power, i found a supplyer, they suggested the use of uhmw for it is inexpensive and insulating. i will try this.