Stanley Meyer Explained

[Dave45]

Iv been following H2O's postings for a long time now and I believe if anyone can figure it out he can, Meyer's was a genius and I believe time will prove that out he will be ranked with the best of the best and H2O will be in that crowd as well Im root en for ya keep up the great work.
Dave

[tutanka]

All the rules for making transformers still apply, to get the highest magnetic field you make the bobbin spaces in such a way that the coils cross section is as close to a square shape as possible. Since all coils are bifilar you get the highest magnetic field strength by default for all coils have one wires width distance apart from one another.

To make these transformers you make one bobbin for each of the coils, test the inductance and note the coil count. For once you have the number count for one bobbin space you have them for the whole transformer. The secondary and choke coils need to be done that way. The primary needs to be Bi-directionally wrapped which is just another name for something cross wrapped and it too should have the same inductance of the secondaries and chokes individual bobbin spaces.

A question I get a lot is, "How do you get the same inductances in all the coils when they are of different configurations?" Answer: by verying the wire sizes, for the primary is only two layers, and the inside chokes bobbins will be multilayered as too for the others. In order to get them to have the same inductance the wire sizes have to be different and/or the wire wrap counts. I think there is a mass relationship going on here, but I haven't looked into it as of yet. For it seems by putting close to the same mass of wire in all places you get the same inductances, but that is just what I have observed nothing prooven as of yet.

And there is not that much of a difference in the WFC and the injectors for both are just capacitors in a way, they have different dielectric mediums being used between the plates and the capacitors physical sizes are very different. All of Stanley Meyer's work is on capacitors, for the Gas Processor is also a capacitor. The trick to it is it doesn't take a whole lot of energy to charge a capacitor and to keep it charged when the dielectric medium is moving through them. Mother nature uses capacitance to make lightining strikes so it's nothing really new just something we have taken for granted. When you take a look at how life works you might be surprized that capacitances also plays a key role in that too. When mother nature deals with things for the most part it is on a very small scale unlike us humans like to do. In dealing with things on a very small scale life is made possible, energies are transfered, and the least amount of energy is expended.

We kinda noticed this with the use of fosile fuels but not many made the connection. If you atomize the fuel and then burn it you get more faster and complete energy yeilds than if you try and burn it when it is in a puttle or stream. Atomizing the fuel increases the chances to get at the individual atoms for the energy exchange. That is why when an injector isn't working properly you get bad performance and fuel ecconomy for most of the energy is being pushed right out the tail pipe. When we atomize the water through a voltage zone the water pics up an image charge and can now react well with the ionized gases for both of them are at very high mixture rates and that gives them the chance to react together most effeicently. Only when the mixture of charged water mist and ionized air gases are put together is it explosive. It even says that right in the patent when Stanley Meyer is talking about safty issues for in that sense it can be made to be more safe than fosile fuels.

Hope that helped with understanding things better,

h2opower.

H2OPOWER,
You don't need just water charged and ionized gas.. the meyer injector mix togheter inside for obtain an explosive mixture but for start an active test you need only to apply the concept on copper tube.. Yes.. you need just an copper tube in order to discover that thermal explosive energy really exist.. I suggest to watch this youtube video in order to illuminate your minds YouTube - Sun's Energy.. Regards from the Leonardo da Vinci Italian Team

[Jbignes5]

What?

Tutanka,

What are you babling about? You first say all you need is a copper tube then link to a video showing how the sun works. Where is the video showing what to do with the tube you are talking about? Listen if you are gonna come into a well explained forum post that has been doing a replication of Stans works and try to highjack it atleast have a video or explaination of what you are talking about. Not some link to a video showing the process in the sun that you could not replicate on earth unless you know how to control gravity in a small space?

[tutanka]

Tutanka,

What are you babling about? You first say all you need is a copper tube then link to a video showing how the sun works. Where is the video showing what to do with the tube you are talking about? Listen if you are gonna come into a well explained forum post that has been doing a replication of Stans works and try to highjack it atleast have a video or explaination of what you are talking about. Not some link to a video showing the process in the sun that you could not replicate on earth unless you know how to control gravity in a small space?

More peoples works on replace design of meyer without any idea how meyer concept work precisely and is clear why at this time anything have functional system that run. Precisely Meyer was focalized on thermal explosive energy and not to produce hydrogen, because as you know, don't have enough power if referred to gasoline. My goal is reproduce simple the thermal explosive energy with an simple copper tube without any COMPLICATED electronic as GP or EEC but only with an standard ignition coil .. in the next days, after I have prepared all material, send here a video link..

[Jbignes5]

Proof.

Where is your proof that Meyers was not working with hydrogen. It is exactly what he was working with and the Gas Processor is the key to amplify the output without changing the hydrogen. In the Meyers system it strips the oxegen to the nth degree to make the water split then explode with a greater yeild then gasoline. The reason hydrogen was used is for the simple fact that it is more abundant then fossile fules it is extreemly safe when in natural form and that once split it can recompose to recycle using the suns ability to give us energy thru natures natural process.
Yes the thermal explosion was the aim and yes this process can be used for other fuels but it lacks the safety and recyclable capabilities that water can provide naturally.
I would suggest if you are doing something different then go make another thread about it and stop trying to derail H20powers successful attempt to recreate what stan was doing back then. Obviously you don't have the grip on why stan chose water as a fuel and how he actually increased the output with his design so that everyday cars could be upgraded without a total overhaul.

[h20power]

H2OPOWER,
You don't need just water charged and ionized gas.. the meyer injector mix togheter inside for obtain an explosive mixture but for start an active test you need only to apply the concept on copper tube.. Yes.. you need just an copper tube in order to discover that thermal explosive energy really exist.. I suggest to watch this youtube video in order to illuminate your minds YouTube - Sun's Energy.. Regards from the Leonardo da Vinci Italian Team

tutanka

A question for you and your whole Leonardo da Vinci Italian Team. Explain to me what the explosive part of the "Mixture" is and how is it made? When does the "Mixture" become explosive? What is used to control the resulting reaction of the "Mixture" to co-equal the burn rate of fosile fuels?

Since your team uses the name Leonardo da Vinci they should have no problem in aswering such simple questions or should the teams name be changed to, "His Excellency Benito Mussolini Italian Team?" So no more trying to tell me which side of the bed the sun comes up on, okay? I already know the answer to that question.

If you and your team are running a blind test to see if you all can get thermo explosive energy then do so. But don't come here and tell me that I am wrong, like you so seem to enjoy doing, when I am trying to help others understand the works of Stanley Meyer, with no lies and no BS. I shared what I know of the works of Stanley Meyer for all of the world to have. I could have kept it all to myself and not told a soul, but that would be an act of a greedy, narrow minded, both thumbs stuck up their butt type of person and clearly I am not that type of person.

I desire the world to be free of the 2% of the worlds population that hords all worlds wealth, and would keep the world in some form of slavery forever. I want the world to change into a place where humanity starts to respect the planet and the property of others and to know that we live in one world that all the resources belong too. It is our home not and not something on loan to us by them. They want to charge people for air, water, sun light, and geo theromo energy if you don't belive me then look at what happened in Australia. As some of the population went out and got wind turbins, those greedy 2%ers came in and put metters on them and told them that the air they where using wasn't free, and the sunlight they where harnessing belong to the governement. Trust me they are already trying to tell us here in the US that the rain that falls on our property belongs to them. To me that is an act of civil war for if they persue that line of thought that is exactly what they will get from me and I know I don't speak alone on these matters.

As for you and your team, answer the questions, and run your blind controled test to find out that what I have been telling you all is the truth all along. If not then just get out of my way and stay off of my back. I do what I do for the betterment of the whole of humanity, not just for the rich or controling 2% of the worlds population. Energy independence is the right of everyone that lives on this planet, and that change to a cleaner fuel source to protect the planet is needed now and not some 50 years down the line.


h2opower.

[Oneminde]

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STOP IRRITATING H2OPOWER - STOP IRRITATING H2OPOWER - AND STOP SPAMING THIS TREAD AND DONT POST MORE BS... it's annoying.
I will inform the moderator group if it this doesent stop.

You people (Tutanka) are destroying the progress of this tread. It is a counterproductive behavior.

Change your methode or change the tread your posting in.

[natone_m]

controlling mixture

What are some of the memebers of this forum ideas on controlling the mixture going into the cylinder. As H2O has pointed out there are many ways to skin a cat. Meyers himself through the years of his research came up with many ways to do this.

If one were to replicate the meyers injectors and spray patterns defined in the patents i believe they would need to regulate the pressure for all three components so that the mixture flows could be varied based on engine demands. Does that sound correct? or am i wrong. In my mind i think if all of the components are at a constant (oxygen energy level is consistantly at 4 electrons) the mixtures' cumbustion could be regulated by pressure control. I know this contradicts Meyers explaination of controlling the voltages and pulse widths to regulate outputs although that would work. Am i wrong about this?

I have seen mention about the mixing chamber on the buggy. How did this mixing chamber work? Could the mixing chamber be used to feed a standard fuel injector?

On a different note I'm putting the finishing touches on my GP CAD design. I'm trying to do it inexpensively with of the shelf stuff or very little fabrication cost. I love getting on this forum and reading and witnessing GP plans and projects in process. I have made up my mind that I want to be a part of it even though cant do the $$ fabricating. I guarantee my plan will be cheap, dirty, but hopefully effective.

[tutanka]

tutanka

A question for you and your whole Leonardo da Vinci Italian Team. Explain to me what the explosive part of the "Mixture" is and how is it made? When does the "Mixture" become explosive? What is used to control the resulting reaction of the "Mixture" to co-equal the burn rate of fosile fuels?

Since your team uses the name Leonardo da Vinci they should have no problem in aswering such simple questions or should the teams name be changed to, "His Excellency Benito Mussolini Italian Team?" So no more trying to tell me which side of the bed the sun comes up on, okay? I already know the answer to that question.

If you and your team are running a blind test to see if you all can get thermo explosive energy then do so. But don't come here and tell me that I am wrong, like you so seem to enjoy doing, when I am trying to help others understand the works of Stanley Meyer, with no lies and no BS. I shared what I know of the works of Stanley Meyer for all of the world to have. I could have kept it all to myself and not told a soul, but that would be an act of a greedy, narrow minded, both thumbs stuck up their butt type of person and clearly I am not that type of person.

I desire the world to be free of the 2% of the worlds population that hords all worlds wealth, and would keep the world in some form of slavery forever. I want the world to change into a place where humanity starts to respect the planet and the property of others and to know that we live in one world that all the resources belong too. It is our home not and not something on loan to us by them. They want to charge people for air, water, sun light, and geo theromo energy if you don't belive me then look at what happened in Australia. As some of the population went out and got wind turbins, those greedy 2%ers came in and put metters on them and told them that the air they where using wasn't free, and the sunlight they where harnessing belong to the governement. Trust me they are already trying to tell us here in the US that the rain that falls on our property belongs to them. To me that is an act of civil war for if they persue that line of thought that is exactly what they will get from me and I know I don't speak alone on these matters.

As for you and your team, answer the questions, and run your blind controled test to find out that what I have been telling you all is the truth all along. If not then just get out of my way and stay off of my back. I do what I do for the betterment of the whole of humanity, not just for the rich or controling 2% of the worlds population. Energy independence is the right of everyone that lives on this planet, and that change to a cleaner fuel source to protect the planet is needed now and not some 50 years down the line.


h2opower.

H2OPOWER

I want, as more peoples, to see facts not only words.. are weeks that your GP is to finished.. at this time if all work as you have explained I had my car ready.. I have only written that I have found how obtain simple the thermal explosive energy without anything else.. you don't are the only man to have good mind in this world..

[h20power]

H2OPOWER

I want, as more peoples, to see facts not only words.. are weeks that your GP is to finished.. at this time if all work as you have explained I had my car ready.. I have only written that I have found how obtain simple the thermal explosive energy without anything else.. you don't are the only man to have good mind in this world..

Just answer the questions, okay? If you don't answer the questions concider yourself band, for I will never again answer any of your postings, for the answers can be found in this thread and there are patent references to the answers. You come at me telling me my math is incorrect and now this. I am tired of your BS so if you can read then just answer the questions.

[h20power]

Sorry naton but I am feed up with the Italians at the moment and will not be answering anymore questions until I feel up too it. Right now I am tired of all the BS I am being constantly being bombarded with, and I think this is only happening on this thread, I wonder why that is?


h2opower.

[tutanka]

Sorry naton but I am feed up with the Italians at the moment and will not be answering anymore questions until I feel up too it. Right now I am tired of all the BS I am being constantly being bombarded with, and I think this is only happening on this thread, I wonder why that is?


h2opower.

H2OPOWER..
Sorry...I don't want bombarded anything.. I have only write about other way for reach meyer concept.. You have your method and we the ours.. are differents but obtains the same result. I don't understand why you are thus angry.. Regards

[tutanka]

STOP IRRITATING H2OPOWER - STOP IRRITATING H2OPOWER - AND STOP SPAMING THIS TREAD AND DONT POST MORE BS... it's annoying.
I will inform the moderator group if it this doesent stop.

You people (Tutanka) are destroying the progress of this tread. It is a counterproductive behavior.

Change your methode or change the tread your posting in.

DEAR ONEMINDE..
H2OPOWER isn't a god and you don't are the Gabriel angel.
In this forum all peoples can ask with liberty and this is my opinion that more words are written. NOW WE WANT TO SEE FACTS!!! Because without these this thread is the same of millions present on web.. I'm oriented to free energy but remember that is important also liberty of mind. Here isn't respected .. I can't write my opinion and H2OPOWER is angry for that and call us Benito Mussolini Italian Team?? I think instead that APPROPRIATE name for him is Adolf Hitler. WE WANT TO INFORM ONLY PEOPLES THAT WE HAVE FOUND A SIMPLE METHOD FOR OBTAIN THE THERMAL EXPLOSIVE ENERGY AND IS ALL TRUE!!! For it in the next days I send testimonial video about that. With this I don't want to offend nobody but only be to aid. Regards

[tutanka]

HI to all..
Only for your information.. We have developed and build the new rotary engine for HHO usage with thermal explosive energy working.. This is the youtube web link .. now is public for your vision but from two days return private..
YouTube - MOTORE PER HHO

[Oneminde]

Tutanka

DEAR ONEMINDE..
H2OPOWER isn't a god and you don't are the Gabriel angel.
In this forum all peoples can ask with liberty and this is my opinion that more words are written. NOW WE WANT TO SEE FACTS!!! Because without these this thread is the same of millions present on web.. I'm oriented to free energy but remember that is important also liberty of mind. Here isn't respected .. I can't write my opinion and H2OPOWER is angry for that. WE HAVE FOUND A METHOD FOR OBTAIN SIMPLY THE THERMAL EXPLOSIVE ENERGY AND IS ALL TRUE!!! For it in the next days I send testimonial video about that. With this I don't want to offend nobody but only be to aid. Regards

First of: I found this tread becous i was LOOKING for the explenation for the HGG and the GP - i know that the GP was a huge part of the system, why? becous i found indications that pointed me in a direction that a watermolecule could be split by photon treatment (= H + OH) and i posted that a while back. That lead me to think that a WFC type constryction could be made by using light only (important). Then after that, i found that ionization could weaken the nuclera bonds - thus liberating electrones and so on and so forth.... and this WAS covered in this tread. SO, based upon my "pre-knowledge" i know that onec i´v read this tread in a fast pace (looking for key words) i know that this was the place to hang out if i wanted to understand S.Meyer and maby move past him in my constructions.

But i needed to start somewhere and i did - but not here, you see? H2OPower ONLY strengthen what i already know and TRON contrubuted to that. So in my minde - it doesent matter wheter or not you have found a new method or not - i know what i am looking for and i am getting there in MY PACE, not someone others pace...

You see, before i started whit this (2007) i know nothing about electrones, photons, electrochemestry etc, this was all new to me - do you realy expect that one can understand this whitin a two year frame? .. me neither!
So I have to learn from scratch AND yes i two have seen alot of BS on the web about Meyer, electrolyzers, voltrolyzers (or what ever you want to call it) but h2opower converted my mind, he pointed me in the direction i needed, BUT he did not tell me "this is what you must do" (correction) - He point out all the time that it is up to everyone to build and construct there own devices, and what works for theme doesent necessary work for everyone or IRL... do you agree?

So, my target whit this is; 1. to understand Meyer. 2. To build something that 99% can afford ($1500 - $2500,-) 3. Build something based upon PROVEN PHYSHICS and methodes... and in this case Meyer showed med the way and h2opower told the "secret".

Show some proof? WHAT.... you have PROVEN PHYSHICS AND LAWS, wich by the way proves that Meyer did not break ant known rule in doing what he did.
Even i understand that and i do not have a education in any of the subjects presented by Meyer and H2opower.. but i have the brain to calculate it and i can learn.
H2opower is not the only person how showes me that what he is saying is TRUE - Full Stop.

IF you Tutanka have a new method, then start a new tread like Gause did, even TRON starts new tread when he whants to discuss something that is actually outside this tread....

Ohu.. i´m getting tired of this that we need to describe and prove a method that has been proven over and over and over and over again - sigh!!!
Just read the tread, make up your minde, stay or go - it's simple.. is'nt it??
I'v made my choice, that is the reason why i'm still here.

And in time i will get the proof I need and if it works i will post it here - h2opowwer does it whit he's GP... he's getting there and that is sufficient for now. Remember, NO ONE did this before, so in part, this is a new technology - for 99.98% of this planets population it is....

End of story!