The "real" injector and VIC coil 6-1

[Guest]

Sorry, forget my last post.

[boguslaw]

Can you explain what is the influence of resistance or magnetic iduction of 430F SS wire ? Any equations ?
It's stupid idea to buy expensive wire without knowing the reason.
I need to know if and how Meyer deduced about SS wire factor.
All I would tell you is that you need roughly 11000 turns of 5 cm diameter coil to build a single choke for 20 khz pure AC oscillator frequency. Preferably in single layer.
How any more layers infuence the effect ? I don't now.
How to obtain DC kind of waves and recompute wire length ? I don't know.
How difference of resistance between copper wire and SS wire change the required wire length ? I don't know.
How magnetic inductance of 430F SS wire change resonant action ? I don't know.

Now you know why Meyer used complex circuit to follow resonance. Once he was able to eliminate it (maybe because he found the correct parameters) - he was killed.Probably.

[dankie]

I'm afraid i cant answer those questions . I know theres more coupling factor between closely spaced coils since this is made of mostly iron . If you were ever to make a coil with resistive wire , alloy 430FR would be the best choice by far , it is usually made for solenoid and demagnetizes very quickly . I also know that it acts as core material , more permability for the secondary and primary with ss chokes under it will have more inductance than if it was copper.

Its not really that its expensive , it cost alot less to maker a 11,600 ohms coil with this than copper , you would need about 28,000 feet for that NOT TO MENTION LONGER TO WIND AND TAKES MORE SPACE.

It makes tiny small coils , easy to wind , Stan says it was used on video for the "full engineering VIC coil" and from what i see.

I dont believe it was bifilar but wind sequential in each bobbin , blue/red/blue/red... But i might be bifilar , who cares tho i'm making both ... Winding bifilar in tight bobbin is gonna be easy ...

No clue on the tech brief if bifilar or not , but its gotta be either one... Seems to me like its sequential ...


Holidays are coming and i see this as a very promising project...

[dankie]

Whatever method he used , energy pumping by "opposite net zero fields" AND/OR electrical polarization process , Stan says the GTNT is more powerful the less contaminates there is in the water.

He used an electrostatic filter just like Daniel dingel to mantain a high GTNT , this is not new science and will be easier to achieve than building the VIC , I already understand the principle of this and it requires very simple computers and is more of a physical and less "mental" and skill requiring build. Much much info on this and it may not even be needed but Stan says more GTNT the purer the water...

Processing less water at a time , water of a same impurity level and same temperature makes things much less complicated . At the end there was no need for "resonant scanning by phase lock loop".

The computer control system looks much much much less complex with the injector design than with the big cell design that his buggy used .

Lets just compare both...

[dankie]

electrostatic water filter - Google Search

They are sites that sell electrostatic water filtration systems for hard water . But these are rather expensive .

As for the laser computers , i'm not really worrying , I wont use any i know the voltage alone will bring this to very high GTNT levels , but for you wild people out there who wanna bring this to the nuclear level , note that there an injector design with a laser in it , I would use a laser pointer.. around 500 nm wavelenght for the Oxygen , there was only 1 laser sooo... nothing complex like his gas processor...

[dankie]

So this is Stans electrostatic filter , it seems to me like this is a cross-sectionnal view , probably that its not really a filter , but more an a closed loop impurities trapper , seems pretty straightforward... Uses high voltage ...

Stan never patented this and doesn't talk about this alot . Pobably already was patented many times . You cant reinvent the wheel lol....

Once you can make an all-on-1 vic this thing will be a snap , no hidden science here at all...

[dankie]

Wouldnt you just love to have all this ?

So i guess this would be the most perfect thing to have ... The retrofit system...

I guess one could ghetto rig something and and experiment , but to get it functionnal on a car once you star blowing up water wouldnt be much farther away if you got some "skill on the art" ...

The whole concept is basically genius like in terms of logistics and costs , Stan was just insanely opportunist with this design ...

So i have already shown you guys how ambient air could be used with this deisng with muhc more hassle than an extra tube , But here is Here is how stan controlled the power , you guess it.... using water wuantity or voltage haha... pretty simple ...

[dankie]

Lol cant edit

For some reason , my internet is ****ed , i cant edit on this site , cant comment on youtube , cant go to the 2nd page of my emails ... cant open my emails ...

Anyways , sorry for so much post but i neded to reformat but i'm lazy .

All this info could be better written bu ti think you get to idea besides the typos..




I hope you have all learned something . It takes many hours of study to filter out this info for you guys ...In the end Meyers takes the KISS method to the extreme , having studied logistics alot this ranks in the AAA category for an amateur project.

If you were looking for a holiday project , this is something with some serious credentials , most likely Meyers was gonna release a complete refrofit system for like 1500$ before he got stopped.

[dankie]

Well obviously he eliminated the complex circuit and reduced the cost drastically , He simplified the process from many many parts to only 3 or 4 parts ...

He was about to get his invention out , he had beaten all the odds normally these kind of inventions never get so close to being released .

[boguslaw]

Yes,I agree.His electrostatic filter is the best indication of wht he had used - pure potantian on electrodes, that means longitudinal resonance which traps electrons.

[dankie]

I dont believe the filter has anything to do with resonance , or scalar or whatever .

Theres a b+ post and a negative post , probably high step up voltage pulsed.

The particules just keep turning on their own inertia and gather there in a closed loop cycle. Probably the dirty water is pumped out every once in a while ...

So we have a zone of heavily particulate water and a zone of almost clear water...

[boguslaw]

I don't see any coatings on filter electrodes, is there any ?

[dankie]

I don't see any coatings on filter electrodes, is there any ?

These are the kind of questions i cant answer . Too much resistance is like an open circuit so no i dont think a coating is necessary ...

I know alot but i cant answer everything ...

Most of your questions you will have to answer yourself with experimenting ...

I view this as a matter of ''limited possibilities'' based on logical reasoning...

[boguslaw]

If there is no coatings on electrodes then normal HV no matter how low amperage will be dead short over contaminated water from start.The only way to prevent this is to deionize water.I don't see any such device,did I missed it ?

[dankie]

Probably a good coating between the plates where they are the closest , true.

The particules are gonna follow the the magnetic field and turn constantly , the water will conduct , the point is not to make an open ciruit here. They probably keep turning on their own inertia on pulse-off time...

We are basically using the magnetic field and creating a closed loop trap for the particules.