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**TRON** · 06-27-2009, 12:50 AM

History Lesson Part 2

Now in the next few years it seemed that his system developed quite fast, for in the next patent(US4826581) he applied for, quite a different system was presented:

* He now presented the VIC.
* He presented his Electron Extraction Circuit to ionize gases
* Additional usage of Laser Energy (although he himself only used normal LEDs) in the resonant cavities
* He presented his Hydrogen Gas Gun.

It looks like the improvement that he got from the resistor at the neg electrode really inspired him. ...
He introduced coils in the connections to the electrodes.

...he introduced a coil to the pos electrode to be able to double the pulse that is coming from the secondary of the step up transformer which is fed by a square wave 50% duty-cycle input. Like that he could get the same waveform as with the bridge rectified alternator setup.
The coil to the neg electrode is responsible for the current limiting, and so it is more or less an improvement of the resistor. And as the resistor before he made this coil adjustable.

he then discovered that the performance of the VIC was (improved) by wiring all coils (primary, secondary, and the 2 "choke" coils) on the same core.
What he did to "sense the resonance" was to add an additional pickup-coil on the core, and creating a closed loop PLL with it to drive the primary.

He also now introduced kind of a new explanation of the resonance phenomena, by comparing the system with a (R)LC-Circuit, where he mentions that on resonance the voltage will rise and the amp slow will diminish. But it seems he didn't care about the fact, that the diode he used would actually prevent any RLC oscillation as he proclaimed it.

Strange is the fact, that in different pics of the coil wiring he displays the coils wired differently. Which up until know makes people wonder how he really wired it. Did he wire some pics intentionally wrong? Was he just not very accurate, and thought, that he only wanted to show the principle and didn't care if the detailed wiring of the coils in the pic was actually correct? Or did he use different wirings for different effects that he wanted to generate with the VIC (e.g. one wiring for water splitting, another one for Gas Ionization)? One indication, that the 2nd cause could be a possible one is, that in some points in his patent drawings and also a lot in the later memos, he drew other voltage waveform pictures Stan described in the text (E.g. US5149407 Fig 9: The input to the primary shows the pulse signal doubled already instead of the 50% duty cycle rect-wave.

it looks like now he had an extremely efficient system to split water.
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he now tried to destabilize the gases. He did this by Ionizing the gases also with the VIC, by taking away electrons (with the help of an extraction grid which was enabled when the VIC was in an off pulse and vice versa. Additionally an electron "consumer" was introduced in this grid circuit to "consume" the electrons). He even had the idea that by introducing some light energy one could destabilize the gases even more (as one does know from current physics that the electrons absorb light energy and by that they get into a higher valence band, this means, they are now easier to extract).

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as he found out, that the explosion energy is greater by using destabilized gases he developed this system even further by destabilizing the gases during the combustion process, so that they are prevented to get into a stable state and always give off their thermal "recombination" energy, without really being able to get into a stable recombination (Hydrogen Gas Gun). And he discovered that by using this Hydrogen Gas Gun one can get an extremely big amount of energy out of a very little amount of gas.
This is really an amazing discovery. In my eyes even more important than the water splitting. Well not for retrofit systems, but for new systems.

The later Patents: US5149407 (the same as EP0381722 except two older Figs in the EP) is just a continuation of US4936961, which itself is just a continuation of 4826581. So if you read US5149407, you also read the other patents. Patent US5293857 is just again a patent on how to use this system on a car, without itself describing the VIC, but only referring to the other patents.
An interesting point about his last patent (WO9207861): in it he describes the controlling circuit of his WFC system. Actually it's very basic analog electronics, nothing special.

As all these VIC patents are basically the same, I will not mention them specially (US4936961, EP0381722, US5149407, US5293857, WO9207861), but rather summarize the interesting/important aspects:

In these patents he indicates what type of diode he's using for the blocking diode in the VIC (1N1198 or NVR1550 (a text recognition error, a MUR1560 was meant)). Both diodes do have about the same technical data (rated 600V and about 20A continuous 10x peak, relatively fast switching). Two things about the ratings of these diodes astonish: They are rated for quite a lot of amps, and are made to withstand only 600V. The latter is interesting, for in the same bunch of patents he writes about the voltage levels possibly reached and there he speaks of "...to about 1000 Volts and more..."(US5149407) or of "...applied voltage potential difference of 2000 to 5000 volts to the cell,..."(WO9207861).

Another interesting phenomena he describes e.g. in WO9207861: If the WFC is made bigger, the resonance frequency rises. This actually is not logical, if you compare (like he did) the VIC with a RLC-Circuit.

in a RLC-Circuit the increase of the capacity would result in a lowering of the resonance frequency. Maybe by bigger he also meant a bigger spacing between the electrodes. So that the overall capacity would decrease.

His theory of the functioning also changed compared to before. He now has the idea, that the increased pulsed Voltage across the plates will just tear the molecules apart, if you get the pulsing at the resonance frequency of the molecule. But this cannot be the whole truth, (because you would have to) isolate the electrodes. ...

But it seems that the electrodes do need contact with the water, and therefore big efforts have to be made to limit the current. Actually the explanations in his patents shed some light about what is happening/needed, additionally to the voltage across the plates. Another strange thing about his explanations is, that in one part he says that the system is resonating due to the (R)LC Circuit, and that's why the resonance frequency is dependent on the contaminants in the water, or the amount of water in the cell, or the cell geometry.

But at the same time he talks about the resonant frequency of the molecules. This somewhat doesn't go together, for this frequency would obviously be fixed.
Addition: In the meantime, due to some experience in making electrets I realized, that... insulation on one or both electrodes would drastically diminish the E-Field to split the water. Because the insulation would together with the water be a standard series resistor network, but with the much higher resistance. This would mean, almost all the voltage would drop across the insulation and not across the water. So if you insulate your electrodes you would need extremely high voltages to split water,.... So having no insulation on the electrodes does really make sense.

He also mentions the WFC dimensions he used: 2 T304 SS tubes (outer one 3/4", inner one 1/2", 0.0625" Gap). Once he says as length 3inch and in another patent 4inch. So he used quite small WFC's. Which he also said should be more preferred than big WFC's. He also mentions the resonant frequencies for these WFC's: 5KHz for the 3inch and 10KHz for the 4inch. Here you can also see,...the bigger the WFC, the higher the frequency, although they have the same electrode distance. But not knowing the VIC's design used for this, the indicated resonance frequencies are useless for comparison.
He also mentions the circuit parameters used for these WFC's: In the first patents he mentions primary 200 turns AWG24 / 600 turns secondary AWG36 on a 1.5" dia 0.25" thick toroid, with a choke coil size of 100 turns AWG24 1" dia. And in the WO patent he mentions a Step Up Ratio of 1:30, instead of 1:3 of the patents before.

Although in all these patents he already mentions, that the insulation of the WFC is important, in his last one (WO9207861 Fig 10) he uses a very heavy insulation on the outside of the Cavity (Around the neg electrode). Later in Briefs and also in rare pictures of his cavities, he used a very thick delrin insulation to prevent the -electrode from getting in contact with the ambient.

...when we look at his "Technical Brief", where he published different Memos from the 90's up until 1996:

..he discovered that it is more efficient to wire the 2 choke coils bifilar. By then he also neglected to make the neg electrode coil adjustable... in this configuration it was not needed anymore. What is really interesting in these memos, is his detailed description of his VIC circuit:

He used 430F SS Steel wires for the "choke"-coils, which were enameled with a high dielectric coating. In Memo 426 he mentions, that for the "choke"-coils he used AWG36 (coil resistance 11.6KOhm each) for secondary AWG 35 and primary AWG22. In Memo 425 he also gives a detailed description: First he wired on a Steel core the bifilar "choke"-coils (AWG36). But not in a conventional manner he wrapped them in sections of "pancake" coils. On top of that he wired the primary(AWG22) BIDIRECTIONAL (he just meant a usual transformer winding). And on top of that he wired the secondary(AWG35) again in sections of "pancake" coils.

It seems like Stan found many useful applications for the VIC:

* With his "Water Fuel Injection System" (Memo 423DA), he developed a kind of spark plug replacement, which did split the water right at the moment in the place where it was used, which made the system the safest system one could imagine.
* He also used the VIC to clean the air with his "Exhaust Air Reclaimer" (Memo 428). Instead of splitting the water, the system does split the air molecules, so that for example a N02 Molecule was split back to Nitrogen and Oxygen.

* With his "Optical Thermal Lens", which he called "EASER" (Memo 429), with which he created huge heat energies with a principle based on the Laser.

* With his "Steam Resonator" (Memo 430) he could heat up water in very short times

And unfortunately in 1998 he died. God bless him.

**h20power** · 06-27-2009, 02:24 AM

I give an example what Bidirectional wrap looks like here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post49552

The electron extraction circuit(EEC) works differently in the water fuel capacitor(WFC) than it does in the gas processor(GP). In the GP it is easy to see that the freshly stripped electrons are completing the circuit with the positive mesh grid of the EEC placed in the air flow of the GP.

In the WFC the EEC shares it's connection with the positive side of the WFC VIC transformer. When the VIC is switched on it pulls the water molecule and elongates it, in the very next instant the EEC is switched on and the weakend water molecules negetive electron gets consumed by completing the circuit of the EEC and that electron is consumed. This causes an imballance in the natural equilibrium of the water and it self corrects to restablish equilibrium. This self correction yeilds hho gases as a result of the imballance caused by the EEC to the system. You can also think of it like this when the VIC is switched on the hho would normally form in the center of the two surfaces, but in the next instant the EEC consumes the electron intended for the hho production in normal Faraday type electrolysis. Energy is being taken from the system in the WFC thus it stays cool. This is why the WFC must be an isolated circuit with no grounds of any kind, for if you ground it when the EEC switches on all you will get it Faraday type electrolysis for the EEC is positive and the ground would be the negetive and you will be putting energy into the system and not taking it from the system.

Hope that clears things up

h2opower.

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