Ionization & Water Fuel

[sucahyo]

Hello,
Today I have received new images reactions from Italian Lens about experiment with UV and high pressure and I post these for your references.. Regards

Thanks .

Hi Sucahyo,

I'm the guy who was responding to all the questions on the link at cyberspaceorbit.com. I had a different name at that time but have been in this alternate fuel research business for about six years now and the Oz Nitro cell is where I had my start.

You mentioned in your post that it was not as I explained, so I would like to know what you have to say about the system. I would love to hear from you about this. I spent a lot of time and money on this venture and none of my team members and/or I were ever able to get it to work properly.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Wow, that is great .

Notice that I post it as question to Aaron. I just learn it too. I think you are the best person to answer it . Can you explain some background history of the device?

I interested with the device since it use low voltage and magnetism.

If I have to suggest then (may apply to water + ambient air ionization process too):

Fact:
- Oxygen is heavier than Nitrogen
- Oxygen is heavier than Hidrogen
- Many university plasma use copper for input, maybe inspired by Viktor Schauberger that first process must be copper
- Copper has less fluid friction than other metal

Assumption:
- many example are using DC, although university use HV except for the arc method.
- magnet help cracking method, I suspect electromagnet has more power than permanent magnet. However, the magnetism may be reduced a lot by the metal tube shielding.
- Aromaz give hint that I assume that iron give better electromagnetism than copper. So instead of copper wire with resistor, it might be better to use iron wire.
- stainless steel material is to withstand salt corrotion creating acid/base while processing.
- input and output placement can be critical.
- When air is rotated inside a tube, the heavier element will thrown to the side. In case of ambient air, oxygen will be the one that get pushed to the side while nitrogen get pushed to the middle.
- In case of water steam and process is strong enough to crack the molecule then oxygen ion get pushed to the side, hydrogen ion get pushed to the middle. I think this is the reason for why the middle has to be negative.
- A strong spin inside the tube may aid the separation process. I don't know which rotation direction is better, maybe right hand rule, but the incoming air should be made rotating when coming in. Maybe a directed fin/tube to prevent the air coming in create a spin inside a spin.
- water molecule separation from just spinning may polarize the tube and middle electrode from ionize hydrogen and oxygen.
- for NH bonding, maybe joining two tube, one ambient air other water steam, has to kept the air at the side (oxygen) to keep at the side when joining. So hydrogen in the middle of water steam tube have chance to react more with nitrogen in the middle of the ambient air tube.
- For N extracting O from the H2O, joining tube is done with water tube in the middle and ambient air tube in the side. So nitrogen in the middle of ambient air tube will have chance to react more with oxygen in the side of water steam tube. From the diagram of D18, it seems to be in this configuration. Maybe the water steam input must be placed at the middle of the the tube and at further inside the tube to allow the nitrogen and oxygen to separate first, maybe at exact center. No mention of electrolized/spinning water steam though.
- water steam is a steam from boiling water by means electrolysis (also get ionic H and O) or radiator. Or maybe from tractor carburetor mentioned in D18.

unclear point:
- why we can not see the tube coil in that link picture?
- should the water level reach 1/4 diameter of the tube?
- do the tube have to be parallel with the car? Or it has to be parallel with the engine?

[lechancel]

aussie...... other car's photo

another
Australian Nitrogen Hydroxide Reactor - Blog - H2earthlabs

[ashtweth]

Hi Alex, i know Wayne personally who gave the originally D18 cell info out, i am going to put him in contact with Rosco, they have an air motor i have see it here at my house .

Maybe we need to get you to Aust as head of R and D and you can meet Wayne

The advantage of us being non profit and open source is that the engineers out there have a soft spot for us and deem us trust worthy and always call on us for advice, its nice to have friends who are not trying to profit off you, we have a good rapport with Wayne.

Regards
Ash

[tutanka]

Hi Alex, i know Wayne personally who gave the originally D18 cell info out, i am going to put him in contact with Rosco, they have an air motor i have see it here at my house .

Maybe we need to get you to Aust as head of R and D and you can meet Wayne

The advantage of us being non profit and open source is that the engineers out there have a soft spot for us and deem us trust worthy and always call on us for advice, its nice to have friends who are not trying to profit off you, we have a good rapport with Wayne.

Regards
Ash

HI Ash,
How are you??
Yesterday I have talk with Rosco about that .. As engineer I need to see first.. similarry San Tommaso however Wayne have explained you the working principle of nitro cell (how really work) and you are sure that work surely? If possible, also for users of thread, obtain several photos about that and and little test report on red car.

Regards
Alessandro

[tutanka]

Peoples seem don't have words.. anything write how think about that Ok.. I write for peoples because I want that this thread go away.. As you can see that is genuine and small manual/automatic lawton circuit (70x100mm) and bi-coil for cell... all made in italy, all professionally builded, all functional

[dankie]

doesnt look very exciting ....

[sucahyo]

Peoples seem don't have words.. anything write how think about that Ok.. I write for peoples because I want that this thread go away.. As you can see that is genuine and small manual/automatic lawton circuit (70x100mm) and bi-coil for cell... all made in italy, all professionally builded, all functional

Do you use this on your implementation?

[pengrove]

Peoples seem don't have words.. anything write how think about that Ok.. I write for peoples because I want that this thread go away.. As you can see that is genuine and small manual/automatic lawton circuit (70x100mm) and bi-coil for cell... all made in italy, all professionally builded, all functional

tutanka, I have built the genuine lawton circuit and it did not have that many chips. What are all of the extra chips for? Does this design also incorporate PLL designs?

[tutanka]

tutanka, I have built the genuine lawton circuit and it did not have that many chips. What are all of the extra chips for? Does this design also incorporate PLL designs?

Maybe you don't have correct circuit design.. Yes.. That is PLL circuit and can work in manual/auto mode. Regards

[eternalightwithin]

Hi. A question about lawton PCBs

Is there a supplier for those PCB boards?

Sincerely,

David P.

[tutanka]

Is there a supplier for those PCB boards?

Sincerely,

David P.

NO.. these boards are an private project.. you can't buy on internet..

[adam_mizer]

Tutanka,
Like the board professional done but the coil looks very basic and not a professional core, might not matter if it works. Looks like uni-strut to me?
Also could you state any of the detail like did the gate switch work properly on the 4047 or was that removed?
Also the gate out pin 11 was that okay or did you change to other output?
And any other helpfull details?

Thank you!

[tutanka]

Tutanka,
Like the board professional done but the coil looks very basic and not a professional core, might not matter if it works. Looks like uni-strut to me?
Also could you state any of the detail like did the gate switch work properly on the 4047 or was that removed?
Also the gate out pin 11 was that okay or did you change to other output?
And any other helpfull details?

Thank you!

And from an photo you decide that CERAMIC BI-COIL don't work?? About the circut .. you can see with your eyes

[dave_cahoon]

My Ionizer

My Plasmatron:

Time to test it.

Mybe connect it between the PCV Valve and Intake Manifold..

Dave

[tutanka]

My Plasmatron:

Time to test it.

Mybe connect it between the PCV Valve and Intake Manifold..

Dave

Sorry but how do you want use inside? What is the reaction that you want reach? Regards