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  • Nope, little to do with the unique system being discussed here, except for the basic concept of "hydrogen energy from water", which covers a lot of area.

    It was an existing business with commercial-sized fairly conventional electrolyzers (from what their Patent shows anyway). Apparently there was a failure of a safety valve, or perhaps a faulty scheme for pressure relief (which happens all the time with steam boilers for the last 200 years now, btw.. "steam" being used in 2010 more than it ever was in the 19th century; despite the thousands of deaths and severe scaldings it has caused).

    The below thread discusses it....

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ses-death.html

    ....but i guess it can be mentioned everywhere and blasted in the Mainstream Media too lol, as a reminder that such work can be dangerous if proper procedures are not followed.. or perhaps as an implied threat that studying whatever BP and the other oil and coal corps don't want us to study is "bad".

    Oh wait, STOP... if they did mention it in the national mainstream media, they would have millions of people hearing about the concept of Hydroxy for the first time, and they might look into it for themselves on the Internet, and hear about Stanley Meyer, and see the Columbus Ohio TV news video of his vehicle running on water on the road (or google this thread)... And they might even start asking what happened to Meyer and his tech, and where are the University studies on it.... We can't have that; so NM, forget it.

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    Hydroxy:

    1 known direct death (if you don't count the murders of inventors or proponents such as Dr. Eugene Mallove of MIT and Harvard; who all had the audacity to try to make an important difference in the world for all Humanity; but who happened to be in the way of some corporations' continued Trillions in easy monopoly profits).

    Oil:

    Untold Millions of people all over the world, from pollution, cancer, poisoning, wars, and 10's of thousands of accidents per year. And now The Gulf of Mexico has been murdered too... Like the thousands of people in Africa and the Amazon Basin who died after first having their ancestral lands stolen and destroyed by pollution and poisons.... and what else is next? We don't know yet; but we certainly know it won't be "good" for anyone.

    What we can expect from this Hydroxy event, is greater awareness for safety, which is a good thing even if the cause is tragic. Its a fairly small community, and this will get around to everyone.

    BTW: i am not suggesting distracting this fine TECHNICAL thread any more than it was already to answer the above comment, further replies on this subject could be made at the above link or one of the "BP Gulf Disaster" threads, which are not "technical / replication" threads

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    • Originally posted by pengrove View Post
      It sounds like someone was trying to replicate Tuts work and blew up.

      Authorities identify man killed in Simi Valley explosion; death ruled accidental » Ventura County Star
      Unlikely. One of the reason to use water directly is to prevent that kind of problem. In Meyer word:
      "renders hydrogen gas as safe as Natural Gas or any other Fuel-Gas"

      Hydrogen fuel is much more dangerous than prophane. Anyone using hydrogen as fuel should use much better precaution than when employing prophane.

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      • see also electric flame and sound flame amplification:

        http://www.fripro.com/

        patents "RADIO FREQUENCY GENERATED ELECTRON BEAM"

        RADIO FREQUENCY GENERATED ELECTRON BEAM - Google Patent Search

        FLAME AMPLIFICATION

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        • Is the tread officially dead now?
          - Behold the truth -

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          • Tutanka! Where are you?

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            • It looks like this thread is dead! That is so sad considering the gulf disaster.
              I had such high hopes for this tech!.

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              • not dead

                Originally posted by pengrove View Post
                It looks like this thread is dead! That is so sad considering the gulf disaster.
                I had such high hopes for this tech!.
                I don't think it is dead, we are just working a lot to bring new energy to the people. You have to work on these things and not just wait for others to do the work for you

                Mike

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                • Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                  I don't think it is dead, we are just working a lot to bring new energy to the people. You have to work on these things and not just wait for others to do the work for you

                  Mike
                  That sounds good to me Mike. We need you guys more than ever. I know I should be testing more and building. I do have some ideas and you guys have been very helpful in helping us to understand things a little better. It does sound promising.

                  Could you give us any hints as to what transformers to buy or anything like that?

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                  • Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                    Tutanka! Where are you?
                    HI Fabio.. the new energy revolution it is near .. a lot soon your eyes will see

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                    • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                      HI Fabio.. the new energy revolution it is near .. a lot soon your eyes will see
                      Thats great, i was kind of getting worried. Good luck my friend! =)

                      Regards
                      Fabio

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                      • A newbie

                        Hello guys !!

                        I'm french with a very poor level in English language , so don't take care on my mistakes !!

                        I read a lot about the water spark plug, and some videos on youtube are hopefull for converting an fuel engine to run with only water !

                        If I understand:

                        - the gasoline motor is more easy to convert than a diesel engine ( because there is no spark plug in diesel motor)

                        - The 2 strokes engines are more easy than 4 strokes engine to convert. (waste spark)

                        I plan to convert an engine to run with water, but I want to know the more easy to begin.

                        I like really all your work, in order to deliver free energy to all the people.

                        See you, Bye

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                        • Originally posted by jokosunday View Post
                          I plan to convert an engine to run with water, but I want to know the more easy to begin.
                          Start with GEET. I think there are many french information for GEET. You can then add other method to it for experiment.

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                          • Hello Sucahyo,

                            yes, it's a good idea to start with geet. I will then make all the electronics circuits.

                            See you

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                            • Thinking...

                              CH3-NH2 is chemical formula of Methylamine.. is strange molecule composed from carbon,nitrogen and hydrogen atoms.. no more people know that is an potential car fuel..
                              Nitrogen (N2), oxygen (O2), argon (Ar), carbon dioxide (CO2), and water vapor (H2O). These gases account for 99.997% of the volumetric composition of standard air and also account for better than 99.9% of most combustion gases (but Meyer don't use air and exaust gas)? . However the water amount isn't stable on air for that Meyer mix an extra amount. Remember one important thing... Meyer use steam resonator for ionized and heated water molecules first of mix with air (or exaust gas). The function of gas processor in fact is extractions of electrons from mixture molecules CO2+H2O+O2+N2 and for absorb electrons (very important) him use EEC. Maybe as result is obtained CH3NH2+O2.
                              Probably at today exist other better system (reactor) for extract electrons, more advanced but simple at the same time based every on high voltage, in all case your fuel mixture is recomposed out.
                              Last edited by tutanka; 09-24-2010, 07:17 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                                CH3-NH2 is chemical formula of Methylamine.. is strange molecule composed from carbon,nitrogen and hydrogen atoms.. no more people know that is an potential car fuel..
                                Nitrogen (N2), oxygen (O2), argon (Ar), carbon dioxide (CO2), and water vapor (H2O). These gases account for 99.997% of the volumetric composition of standard air and also account for better than 99.9% of most combustion gases (but Meyer don't use air and exaust gas)? . However the water amount isn't stable on air for that Meyer mix an extra amount. Remember one important thing... Meyer use steam resonator for ionized and heated water molecules first of mix with air (or exaust gas). The function of gas processor in fact is extractions of electrons from mixture molecules CO2+H2O+O2+N2 and for absorb electrons (very important) him use EEC. Maybe as result is obtained CH3NH2+O2.
                                Probably at today exist other better system (reactor) for extract electrons, more advanced but simple at the same time based every on high voltage, in all case your fuel mixture is recomposed out.
                                Tut,

                                Where do you get your carbon dioxide in this situation?

                                Steve

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