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Originally posted by Vickers
Notice that this is without water dissociation.
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Sorry, I can not recall how you do it. How?
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Plasma water dissociation don't have sense, can be good only as experiment but your engine don't run. With that experiment see only the power of plasma like fourth state of the matter.Originally posted by sucahyo View PostComment
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for sure the wfc uses negative ions and the waterinjector must use positive ions who are not healthy for a human body.Originally posted by tutanka View Post
Is that what you wanted to share, Tutanka?
regards
StevieComment
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On the TV show, water is stay in the glass of mineral water. After few minutes it can be lit, after being poured it still lit. Besides smelling them the host tasteOriginally posted by tutanka View Post
the water after puting out the fire and still felt them as the same. I believe what I saw, and I think we can replicate it in scientific way although it can be very hard to achieve it. The show is "dua dunia" second episodes.
I see, thanks. I also post viktor schauberger way somewhere here.Originally posted by VickersComment
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Here is my post about converting water to petrol:Originally posted by Vickers
http://www.energeticforum.com/49492-post6.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/82552-post99.html
And here is about using kelvin water droplet electricity to petrol.
http://www.energeticforum.com/49373-post202.html
I don't think I can afford the video. Its the production of TV-7 of TransCorp.Comment
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Nitrogen production
The Experimental Study Of Gases
The chief difficulty in connection with the preparation of pure nitrogen lies in the removal of the nitric oxide which is produced in small quantity by most of the reactions in which nitrogen is the chief product. Nitric oxide is an extremely stable compound, and can only be eliminated by passing the gas through a tube containing metallic iron or copper, heated to a redness. The use of iron is to be avoided, since a trace of moisture entering the tube gives rise to the production of hydrogen.
Lord Rayleigh's results show that nitrogen, practically free from nitric oxide, can be prepared by heating a solution of ammonium chloride and potassium nitrite on a water -bath, passing the gas through a tube containing red-hot copper, and subsequently through caustic potash, sulphuric acid, and pentoxide of phosphorus
If the presence of argon does not materially affect the result, and it is merely required to prepare a quantity of nitrogen in order to carry out some process which it is necessary to conduct in an atmosphere of inert gas, the following method may te applied. Atmospheric air is drawn slowly through a solution of strong ammonia, contained in a wash-bottle, through a tube containing metallic copper heated to a red heat, and finally through a vessel containing strong sulphuric acid to remove moisture and excess of ammonia. The volume of the nitrogen obtained by this process is nearly equivalent to the quantity of air used.
It may be as well to state here, by way of warning, that metals generally are not nearly so inactive with regard to nitrogen as they were formerly supposed to be. Most metals appear to combine slowly with nitrogen, forming nitrides.
Atmospheric nitrogen for use in pressure gauges, etc. (pp.164, 230) may be obtained by passing air through a tube containing copper, and subsequently through caustic potash, etc.Lord Eayleigh (Ch Soc. Jour, 1897, 181) has described a process for the preparation of argon on a large scale by sparking atmospheric air with oxygen.
The absorption of the oxygen and nitrogen was conducted in three stages In the first, the oxygen was removed by means of metallic copper ; in the second, the nitrogen was passed twice over metallic magnesium.
Atmospheric nitrogen was obtained by drawing air, freed from carbon dioxide by passage through caustic soda solution, over heated metallic copper. A large iron tube F, 3 feet 6 inches long and 3 5 inches in diameter, containing 25 Ibs. of scrap copper, was connected with the gasholder A; the tube was
heated in a long fire-brick trough during these experiments, but a gas-furnace, which is shown in the figure, has now been substituted for the more primitive arrangement. The time required to fill the gasholder was -usually about live hours, and it was found, on analysis of the gas, that one
single operation sufficed for the complete removal of all oxygen. The oxidised copper was reduced between each operation by means of coal-gasComment
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Old ionizer
In case h20power read this, if you provide energy strong enough to break a liter of O2 molecule, strong enough to ionize a liter of Oxygen to 4th level, then it surely strong enough to break half liter of N2 molecule and ionize less than a liter of Nitrogen to 4th level. If you don't introduce water or HHO before the end of gas processor or maintaining EEC, you will have NOx.
Ozone, O3. Although it is impossible to obtain ozone free from oxygen, it is convenient to include in this chapter a description of the methods employed in manipulating it. A mixture of ozone and oxygen may be obtained by subjecting pure oxygen to the influence of the silent discharge. Nitrogen must be absent, since the conditions which favour the production of ozone lead also to the formation of oxides of nitrogen. The gas must not be brought into contact either with rubber or with mercury, both of which are attacked by ozone. The gas does not, however, act upon paraffin, and stopcocks may be lubricated with metaphosphoric acid.
The quantity of ozone, that is to say the percentage of ozone in the mixture, varies with the nature of the discharge, with the temperature, and with
the quantity of moisture present in the gas. The following are the more important points to be kept in mind in designing the apparatus
(i) The ozoniser must be kept cool.
(ii) The ozoniser must be made of thin glass of uniform thickness.
(iii) The two surfaces between which the discharge is passed, should be as close together as possible (Shenstone and Priest, Okem. Soc. Jour., 1893, 63, 952).
For the production of ozone in large quantity the Andreoli ozonizer appears to be the most efficient. It consists of a number of flat rings of pewter toothed on the inside, and connected longitudinally by strips of metal to form a cage.
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With regard to the nature of the discharge, Shenstone and Priest state that he difference of potential should not be too grea, and that interruptions should not exceed one thousands per minutes. It appears, however, that the intensity of the discharge should bear some relation to the rate of flow of the gas, and that for a rapid current a high potentual maybe used with advantage. In the later case a large coil should be employed (see also p241).
The experiment is a dangerous one, though Troost states that liquid ozone is- non-explosive in the absence of organic matter.Last edited by sucahyo; 04-12-2010, 04:44 AM.Comment
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Basic Parts
Hi Aaron
How about some discussion on basic building of the parts.
I'd love to start experimenting on actually building one but want some basic input to get started.
If you don't feel this is relevant yet, Please feel free to strip my comment. OK
Or if you could point me to threads on these subjects, I'd appreciate.
For one the Air Ionization Tube and the LED Array.
One unit but. Length of interaction needed
Size and speed of air flow (Time in light to charge? ) (# of screens to adequately strip electrons) Do we want a straight Pipe about the size of our carb thought or do we want an increased size to slow the stream and lower Pressure? On the other hand are we trying to add energy or compact it, so to speak? So maybe a decreased diameter such as a venture section would fit.
Are we using available air temp, or would we want to gather say from the radiator. Further still a heat exchanger off the exhaust.
If ambient air is used a clear plexi tube would allow the LED to be external of the flow and shine in with an aluminum reflector wrapped around perhaps.
The copper screens could be soldered to a stainless rod down the center right?
Cut to the size of the tube. What mesh size? How many and the spacing?
What Voltage is needed to adequately cause the stripping action. How might one of these power supplies be built? I'm "no hobla" on Ion stuff.
Really enjoying the thread. Its been done. Lets do it again. And tell everyone about it this time. (Like your doing)
FrznWtr
Woops read 1 pg and thought that was it - 16 of them I see
My answers may be in there. I'll see.Last edited by FrozenWaterLab; 04-12-2010, 07:42 AM. Reason: Woops read 1 pg and thought that was it - 16 of them I seeComment
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How about trying to do what Honda Motor propose? Mixing NOx with H2. You can get NOx with spark but it will combust the H2, I guess try with non sparking HV at 10 to 40KV to ambient air input.Originally posted by FrozenWaterLab View Post
Temple of VTEC Rumors and News - Honda Develops Next-Generation Clean Diesel Engine
Honda thinks that CO, H2O, NOx and little H2 with the existence of Pt can produce NH3 at exhaust temperature.
- During lean burn operation, the NOx adsorbent in the lower layer adsorbs NOx from the exhaust gas.
- As needed, the engine management system adjusts the engine air-fuel ratio to rich-burn, wherein the NOx in the NOx adsorption layer reacts with hydrogen (H2) obtained from the exhaust gas to produce ammonia (NH3).The adsorbent material in the upper layer temporarily adsorbs the NH3.
-When the engine returns to lean-burn operation, NH3 adsorbed in the upper layer reacts with NOx in the exhaust gas and reduces it to harmless nitrogen (N2).Comment
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Originally posted by chasson321 View PostHi FrzWtr,
Well they do not have a chemical pathway as to how/where the NH3 will be made on demand and if you are looking at building something might I suggest this site for this guy is building it and can answer the questions that you have: Electric Fields and Moving Media, Stanley Meyer Explained - Heretical Builders
Tim
H2OPOWER HAVE CHANGED FORUM BUT THE MUSIC IS EVERY THE SAME..
DEAR CHASSON321... OK.. YOU ARE AN FANS OF HOPOWER AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT PLEASE DON'T WRITE ON MY THREAD!!
YOU ARE CONVINCED THAT PROCESS OF H2OPOWER IS RIGHT.. OK.. NO PROBLEM FOR ME.. FOR ME IS ONLY IMPORTANT FINAL RESULT. HOWEVER PLEASE REPLY ME... WHEN I CAN WATCH THE WORK OF H2OPOWER?
YOU CAN SEE MY WORK TO THE END OF THAT MONTH AND I ASSURE YOU THAT AFTER YOU CHANGE OPINION..
I CAN ANNOUNCE ONLY THAT AT THIS TIME.. GASOLINE AND DIESEL ENGINES RUN 100% WITH WATER ..Comment
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Hi tutanka I'm really exited about your process, dangerous like nitric acid + glycerine? How meyer died, do you know the real version? You are running the cars with liquid tnt?
Thats what comes to mind...
Spero che sia facile o semplice come dici tu!
Ci sono molti paesi nel mondo che hanno ora bisogno di questa tecnologia, poi dobbiamo metterci d'accordo credo che possiamo aiutarci! ho qui cose molto nuove...
Saluti
Best Regards
FabioComment
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Hi Tutanka,
I think we solved your puzzle.
You talked about O3 as the molecule that killed Stan.
O3 is instable and at the right temp it explodes.
You use Hydrogen as trigger.
We need lots of Ozon and a bit hydrogen to run our cars.
Thank you, Tutanka.
StevieComment
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Fabio,Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
Im only an inventor but not crazy
no nitric acid, glycerine or liquid tnt.. all is based in simple but genial chemical formula..
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Stevie.. ozone isn't created.. Not from my chemical formula. RegardsOriginally posted by stevie1001 View PostComment
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