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  • Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
    5° I think that if the negative side of the battery could be somehow isolated from the car we could just apply high voltage positive to the engine block and it would charge positively. Might be dangerous because of the high area of the car to become a big capacitance... And could discharge in someone grounded who touch it....
    Won't it have relative potential only to the negative side of battery and not to the environment? I think it do not charge the engine positively, but only to charge the negative side negatively. The engine/car body it self still have same potential as the surrounding.

    relate to this:
    Du Faye & Franklin.
    It was in the year 1746 that he first began to pay attention to the experiments in electricity which were being made in England and France. A great deal had been learnt about this science since the time when Otto Guericke made the first electrical machine in 1672, and a Frenchman named Du Faye had shown that two different kinds of electricity could be produced by rubbing different substances. You will remember that a pith-ball, when charged with electricity from a stick of electrified sealing-wax, draws back, and will not approach the sealing-wax again (see p.122). But Du Faye discovered that if you rub the end of a glass rod with silk, and bring it near to this ball, it will draw the ball towards itself, showing that the electricity in
    the glass rod has exactly the opposite effect to that in the sealing-wax. In other words, while Guericke had shown that substances charged with the same kind of electricity repel each other, Du Faye showed that substances charged with different kinds of electricity attract each other. Both these men thought that electricity was a fluid which was created by the rubbing, and which was not in bodies at other times ; when Franklin, however, began to make his experiments, he came to the conclusion that this was not as they had supposed, but that all bodies have more or less electricity in them, which the rubbing only brings out.

    You will now, I think, be able to follow Franklin's experiments. He put a person, whom we will call A, upon a glass stool, and made him rub the glass cylinder of an electrical machine with one hand and place his other hand upon it to receive the electricity. Now, he said, if electricity is created by the rubbing, this person must be filled with it, for he will be constantly taking it from the machine, and it cannot pass away, because of the glass legs under the stool. But he found that A had no more electricity in him after rubbing the cylinder than he had before, neither could any sparks be drawn out of him. He then took two people, A and B, and placing each of them on a glass stool, made A rub the cylinder, and B touch it, so as to receive the electricity. Now notice carefully what happened. B was soon so full of electricity that when Franklin touched him, sparks came out at all points ; but what was still more curious, when Franklin went to A and touched him, sparks came out between them just as they had done between him and B.

    This he explained as follows :'A, B, and myself,' he said, have all our natural quantity of electricity. Now when A rubbed the tube, he gave up some of his electricity to it, and this B took, so that A had lost half his electricity and B had more than his share. I then touched B, and his extra charge of electricity passed into me and ran away into the earth. I now went to A, and I had more electricity in me than he had, because he had lost half his natural quantity, and so part of my electricity passed into him, producing the sparks as before.







    Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
    6° I don't understand what vortex electricity you mean...
    marc concept:
    Séparation ionique fluide mouvement Marc C
    Last edited by sucahyo; 05-07-2010, 07:25 AM.

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    • Thats very nice,

      Thanks
      Regards
      good night

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      • for open your minds..

        Hello everyone,

        For more times I have written that meyer patents are wrong in content.. today I send you other little extract from Meyer section2.pdf..

        "The Quenching Circuit Technology is a combination and
        integration of several Gas-Processes that uses noncombustible
        gases to render hydrogen safer than Natural Gas.
        The, "Non-Burnable" gases are used to adjust hydrogen
        "Bum-Rate" to Fuel-Gas burning levels ... recycled to
        stabilize Gas-Flame temperatures .. .intermixed to sustain and
        maintain an hydrogen Gas-Flame ... and used to prevent
        Spark-Ignition of supply gases."

        Quenching circuit in fact is very important but only in the true reaction for obtain complete process

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        • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
          The next week you can see with your eyes.. Tomorrow I received latest component from Argentina.. Regards


          Hi Alex,
          Is it easier to convert an LPG generator vs gasoline carburetor?

          Do you need to change the ignition timing? To TDC?

          How is your progress? When will make the video of genset operation?
          Best Regards, Mike R.

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          • Langmuir

            Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
            The temperatures a common engine runs Is impossible to create thermo emission by the metal and even if there were, this free electrons would run in the direction of the metal because in the middle of a conductor there always be charge = to 0.

            The metal need to glow red to emit electrons.
            You haven't considered every metal and you haven't considered what
            Langmuir showed.
            Sincerely,
            Aaron Murakami

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            • Originally posted by vrand View Post


              Hi Alex,
              Is it easier to convert an LPG generator vs gasoline carburetor?

              Do you need to change the ignition timing? To TDC?

              How is your progress? When will make the video of genset operation?
              Best Regards, Mike R.
              no changes.. when all is finished video is posted..

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              • Hi Aaron

                I just considered the coefficient of emission of metals related to temperature...

                Can you explain to us what langmuir showed and how's related please?

                (maybe we should also count with the argon in the air, but it will need more complex calculation i'm not able yet to determine.

                i'll keep working on it!!!

                Regards

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                • Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                  Hi Aaron

                  I just considered the coefficient of emission of metals related to temperature...

                  Can you explain to us what langmuir showed and how's related please?

                  (maybe we should also count with the argon in the air, but it will need more complex calculation i'm not able yet to determine.

                  i'll keep working on it!!!

                  Regards
                  Read and think about that... Rayleigh is the right way... repeat again and again.. meyer patents are wrongs, h2opower is wrong .. the oxygen is used inside GP ONLY for retard recomposition of nitrogen molecular.. THAT IS FIRST SECRET REVEALED..
                  Last edited by tutanka; 06-07-2010, 10:45 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                    no changes.. when all is finished video is posted..
                    Hi,
                    Trying to do this all by yourself is commendable but you can always ask for help you need it.

                    It took the Anton Cell group in Germany over 4 months to make their 1000 watt genset run on water, and they had a team of people, and they still are working how to make the engine run smoothly.

                    They took a Gasoline engine genset and took off the throttle body and carburetor and now are trying to make a new gas regulator design.

                    Anton Cell Gasoline Genset running on HHO:


                    Ignition Timing modifications to TDC:


                    Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
                    YouTube - Anton HHO cell drives motor-generator with heavy load around 1000 Watts

                    Of course their design is different from your design, that is the reason I asked if your design can run on a Gasoline genset & if you needed to adjust the ignition timing to TDC.

                    Regards

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                    • Langmuir

                      Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                      Can you explain to us what langmuir showed and how's related please?

                      (maybe we should also count with the argon in the air, but it will need more complex calculation i'm not able yet to determine.
                      You don't need math to conceptualize the basic deal.

                      Did you read the two Lateral Science website articles on Langmuir and
                      the atomic torch? I referenced them countless times in this forum.

                      Those old references are great because they simply spell things out
                      the way they are without a bunch of over-engineered language.
                      Sincerely,
                      Aaron Murakami

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                      • active nitrogen reaction with water mist
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                        • Originally posted by vrand View Post
                          Hi,
                          Trying to do this all by yourself is commendable but you can always ask for help you need it.

                          It took the Anton Cell group in Germany over 4 months to make their 1000 watt genset run on water, and they had a team of people, and they still are working how to make the engine run smoothly.

                          They took a Gasoline engine genset and took off the throttle body and carburetor and now are trying to make a new gas regulator design.

                          Anton Cell Gasoline Genset running on HHO:


                          Ignition Timing modifications to TDC:


                          Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
                          YouTube - Anton HHO cell drives motor-generator with heavy load around 1000 Watts

                          Of course their design is different from your design, that is the reason I asked if your design can run on a Gasoline genset & if you needed to adjust the ignition timing to TDC.

                          Regards
                          They use HHO I use NH3, NO IGNITION CHANGES ARE NEEDED Reply to my answer.. why in first system Meyer used HHO and in the second system use water?
                          Last edited by tutanka; 05-09-2010, 06:16 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by pengrove View Post
                            active nitrogen reaction with water mist
                            Information for all..
                            If you create right water process that work similarry to an chain reaction with an low amount of energy used (in total no more of 100W). About your chemical formula.. isn't correct .. atomic nitrogen don't dissociate water.. you need to dissociate water into H+ OH- ions for obtain right process result
                            Last edited by tutanka; 05-09-2010, 06:02 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                              They use HHO I use NH3, NO IGNITION CHANGES ARE NEEDED Reply to my answer.. why in first system Meyer used HHO and in the second system use water?
                              In essence, then, the Water Fuel Injector system (40) simply processes and converts water into a useful hydrogen fuel on demand at the point of gas ignition ... thereby, co-equally or superseding fossil-fuel safety standards ... especially when ionized ambient air gases (400 xxx 46n) and noncombustible gases (45a xxx 45n) are intermixed with water supply (47) prior to entering Water Fuel Injector Plug (20/30), as illustrated in (40) of Figure (4-2) as to (10) of Figure (4-1).


                              Answer to Meyers second system:
                              - Meyer mixes water + ionized ambient air gases + noncombustible gases (see fluid mixing chamber above diagram)
                              -Then pumps this mixture to the the engine combustion chamber to ignite.
                              - This then releasing thermal explosive energy (gtnt)

                              Triggering Process

                              As water mist (68a xxx 68n) is injected and metered into Resonant Cavity (180) of Figure (5-5) (Water Fuel Injector) under pressure, applied Resonant Pulse Voltage (46) performs several functions sequentially in a instant of time: converts water mist (68) into it's component gases hydrogen (77 a/b). oxygen (76). and ambient air gases (97); momentarily ionizes the liberated gases by way of electron ejection (230) , and thermally ignites ionized combustible gas-mixture under "Electrostatic Pressure" that directly attenuates Energy Apertures (7a xxx 7n) (520) .... releasing thermal explosive energy (gtnt) beyond normal gas burning levels on demand, as illustrated in Figure (5-5). Once a quantum amount of thermal explosive energy (gtnta xxx gtntn) is released then the combustible gases return to stable state by forming de-energized water mist (531). as shown in

                              (530) of Figure (5-6)
                              Is this correct?

                              Regards

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                              • Originally posted by vrand View Post

                                Answer to Meyers second system:
                                - Meyer mixes water + ionized ambient air gases + noncombustible gases
                                -Then pumps this mixture to the the engine combustion chamber to ignite.
                                - This then releasing thermal explosive energy (gtnt)

                                Triggering Process



                                Is this correct?

                                Regards

                                For Meyer patent yes.. for me that mixture can't burn.. remember that all is based on chemical reactions.. for that I repeat for more times that some components are removed from Meyer patents and some words are changed for protect petrol power in the all world.. but they don't have consider that there are some humans with illuminated minds..
                                Last edited by tutanka; 05-09-2010, 06:14 PM.

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