Ionization & Water Fuel

[chasson321]

h2opower gas processor concept is very different from what being discussed here. his output is 4 state ionized oxygen without any NOx, which is not the goal in this thread.

Any work being done in this thread should never considered a derivation from h2opower work. As far as I know tutanka do not use Laser which h2opower considered very very important. While anyone following h2opower by using LED is doing great mistakes because h2opower never discuss the future of his LED based implementation anymore.

Perhapse you should re-read this thread as this is his set up: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post82209 can you see the LEDs? What the wavelenghts are Tutanka never shared that information with us, though I sure wish he would, for I can't see any harm in doing so.

Tim

[tutanka]

Perhapse you should re-read this thread as this is his set up: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post82209 can you see the LEDs? What the wavelenghts are Tutanka never shared that information with us, though I sure wish he would, for I can't see any harm in doing so.

Tim

In old reactor I have used UVA/UVC LAMP not LED. However new reactor don't use LED but only high voltage/high fequency.

[sucahyo]

Perhapse you should re-read this thread as this is his set up: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post82209 can you see the LEDs? What the wavelenghts are Tutanka never shared that information with us, though I sure wish he would, for I can't see any harm in doing so.

That is obsolete information. h2opower post new information elsewhere and from what I read in this couple of month he never again mention the future of his LED based gas processor. He focused on Laser now. Question about the future of his LED based gas processor test is unanswered.

I have reference that mention LED will shift frequency and may have up to 25% power in the neighboorhood frequency. In other word if LED based gas processor can ionize oxygen it will ionize nitrogen too. But I highly doubt LED would be more effective than my 12 watt corona.

Anyone up to challenge, lit up your oxygen ionizing LED with 12 watt and see if it can produce ozone smell.

At that power level my corona can reduce smoke odour in minutes and smooth car idle considerably. No plan on testing mileage.

[tutanka]

That is obsolete information. h2opower post new information elsewhere and from what I read in this couple of month he never again mention the future of his LED based gas processor. He focused on Laser now. Question about the future of his LED based gas processor test is unanswered.

I have reference that mention LED will shift frequency and may have up to 25% power in the neighboorhood frequency. In other word if LED based gas processor can ionize oxygen it will ionize nitrogen too. But I highly doubt LED would be more effective than my 12 watt corona.

Anyone up to challenge, lit up your oxygen ionizing LED with 12 watt and see if it can produce ozone smell.

At that power level my corona can reduce smoke odour in minutes and smooth car idle considerably. No plan on testing mileage.

LED or LAMP don't have enough energy power for obtain an highly conversion efficiency on molecules.. ONLY using HV/HF, in particular conditions, you can strip fasctly electrons from molecules creating hollow atoms.

[vrand]

blue/purple= on reactor - no gas processed
yellow/brown= on reactor - gas processed

power consumed=200W

Thank you for the info

How much water is used? Do you use high pressure water with a mist sprayer?

Drip Watering - Mist Sprayer - Flow Adjustable

Thanks

[tutanka]

Thank you for the info

How much water is used? Do you use high pressure water with a mist sprayer?

Drip Watering - Mist Sprayer - Flow Adjustable

Thanks

The answer is incorrect.. right can be.. what is PH used for water? You don't need more water.. and however an good stechiometric value can be heated exaust gas, CO2,H2O,N2,O2, from catalizer.. you can start from here your tests, if you produce fuel gas your gas processor work.

[vrand]

The answer is incorrect.. right can be.. what is PH used for water? You don't need more water.. and however an good stechiometric value can be heated exaust gas, CO2,H2O,N2,O2, from catalizer.. you can start from here your tests, if you produce fuel gas your gas processor work.

Ahh ok, interesting.

Do you start out by adding a little of your bi-distilled water PH 6.5, then just use the exhaust gas to recycle that water and all the other exhaust gases back into the reactor? So you do not need to continuously add the PH 6.5 water?

Thanks

[tutanka]

Ahh ok, interesting.

Do you start out by adding a little of your bi-distilled water PH 6.5, then just use the exhaust gas to recycle that water and all the other exhaust gases back into the reactor? So you do not need to continuously add the PH 6.5 water?

Thanks

Mike. is very simple.. If you want create ammonia you need water PH <7, if you want create (I don't suggest you) hydrazine you need water PH >7 in all case as sub-product you obtain every N2O.
If you use gasoline exaust gas you don't need to add any water, water vapour is produced by combustion reaction. Regards

[vrand]

Mike. is very simple.. If you want create ammonia you need water PH <7, if you want create (I don't suggest you) hydrazine you need water PH >7 in all case as sub-product you obtain every N2O.
If you use gasoline exaust gas you don't need to add any water, water vapour is produced by combustion reaction. Regards

Thanks Alex.

My interest is in your design to fuel an engine on 100% air & water. Do you still do this with your new design?

Or do you start out with gasoline, then run on 100% air & water? What type of PH water are you using now?

Thanks, Mike

[tutanka]

Thanks Alex.

My interest is in your design to fuel an engine on 100% air & water. Do you still do this with your new design?

Or do you start out with gasoline, then run on 100% air & water? What type of PH water are you using now?

Thanks, Mike

Mike.. Isn't only your interest.. however unfortunately I can't send you design of reactor including materials used inside. About water.. isn't an secret .. I use carlo erba bi-distilled water with PH 6.5.

[vrand]

Mike.. Isn't only your interest.. however unfortunately I can't send you design of reactor including materials used inside. About water.. isn't an secret .. I use carlo erba bi-distilled water with PH 6.5.

Thank you Alex, keep up the good work!

Please keep us posted of your progress.

Thanks, Mike

[vrand]

That is obsolete information. h2opower post new information elsewhere and from what I read in this couple of month he never again mention the future of his LED based gas processor. He focused on Laser now. Question about the future of his LED based gas processor test is unanswered.

I have reference that mention LED will shift frequency and may have up to 25% power in the neighboorhood frequency. In other word if LED based gas processor can ionize oxygen it will ionize nitrogen too. But I highly doubt LED would be more effective than my 12 watt corona.

Anyone up to challenge, lit up your oxygen ionizing LED with 12 watt and see if it can produce ozone smell.

At that power level my corona can reduce smoke odour in minutes and smooth car idle considerably. No plan on testing mileage.

Interesting sucahyo

I have not seen your 12 watt corona video. Is it based on the stingo circuit?

Thanks, Mike

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the info tutanka .

LED or LAMP don't have enough energy power for obtain an highly conversion efficiency on molecules..

Some people believe it does, so let see if they can proof it. so far, none.

As for Laser, even if Laser can ionize air, I rather use the money to buy a used car with some money left enough to buy gasoline for many years, than to buy Laser water fuel upgrade kit.

I have not seen your 12 watt corona video. Is it based on the stingo circuit?

Yes, I do not have a video but I have a thread for it. Now I use copper pipe as negative, wound by insulated wire, for more durability. This produce strong ozone smell even at 3 watt. I think 12 watt should be enough for a running engine.

[tutanka]

Thanks for the info tutanka .

Some people believe it does, so let see if they can proof it. so far, none.

As for Laser, even if Laser can ionize air, I rather use the money to buy a used car with some money left enough to buy gasoline for many years, than to buy Laser water fuel upgrade kit.

Suchayo,
Meyer use photon (laser) in association with HV/HF because you need all of these for obtain complete ionization but why use laser (with right wavelenghts) if you can use ONLY HV/HF source and obtain the right photons wavelengths and more power irradiation?
From last images sended from me you can see that ONLY using high voltage .. http://www.energeticforum.com/104112-post1144.html

[sucahyo]

Suchayo,
Meyer use photon (laser) in association with HV/HF because you need all of these for obtain complete ionization but why use laser (with right wavelenghts) if you can use ONLY HV/HF source and obtain the right photons wavelengths and more power irradiation?
From last images sended from me you can see that ONLY using high voltage .. http://www.energeticforum.com/104112-post1144.html

Yes, congratulation .