Ionization & Water Fuel

[stevie1001]

air and water.. yes.. but you need the right water

There we go again....
Its not that i dont appriciate all you and your partners are doing Tut, but that guessing game is choking me.....

Hmmm, what kind of water...let me guess.....wet water?
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,602.0.html

Steve

[tutanka]

Well, at last this thread actually seems to be going somewhere - and dare I say it, after the months of hints, clues and speculative theories posed by forum members, some parts of the puzzle actually seem to be falling into place.



So let me get this straight, you use H2O and N2 and process it in order to get NH3 and N2O. Ok, fair enough.

Is the N2 pure processed N2 or is this the N2 in air? In which case you would effectively be processing air and water.

A couple more things immediately come to mind, one being, if you are dissociating water mist, is this in itself a more efficient way of producing hydrogen than standard electrolysis... or haven't you considered or determined this alone? Logically I assume this must be the case, as the amount of ammonia produced is directly related to the amount of hydrogen available, and so would initially seem a rather pointless exercise otherwise.

As I see it the bonus in this process is that along with ammonia, the nitrous oxide is produced which of course is a great oxidiser. Do you know exactly what you will have coming out of the exhaust... what the by-product of the combustion of ammonia and nitrous oxide is?

This is now - finally - all starting to make a little more sense, but jeeez, it's been a rather long-wind, twisting and turning route just to get to this level of clarification.

Now to Tut's rather curious last statement:



Right water? Water being just H2O, what can possibly be mean't by the 'right water'? Are you simply referring to the quality of the water?

All is been written on thread. Regards

[Vickers]

All is been written on thread. Regards

Of course. Except the part about the air processor. WHICH as u know is the key. Why u torment these good people? Is this not called a FREE Energetic forum?
There are a lot of PEOPLE here who understand electric. Electrocuting nitrogen is not a problem. So how do we get pure nitrogen? Bar buying it from a welding supply shop.
How does tutanka or MJN get his nitrogen? And more importantly...Flow rate. Even for a little engine.

[vrand]

Of course. Except the part about the air processor. WHICH as u know is the key. Why u torment these good people? Is this not called a FREE Energetic forum?
There are a lot of PEOPLE here who understand electric. Electrocuting nitrogen is not a problem. So how do we get pure nitrogen? Bar buying it from a welding supply shop.
How does tutanka or MJN get his nitrogen? And more importantly...Flow rate. Even for a little engine.

I do not think they need pure Nitrogen, as they stated so. Why do you think it is important?

Regards

[sucahyo]

How does tutanka or MJN get his nitrogen? And more importantly...Flow rate. Even for a little engine.

It was previously mentioned that input is ambient air and water.

[Aaron]

reread the thread

Of course. Except the part about the air processor. WHICH as u know is the key. Why u torment these good people? Is this not called a FREE Energetic forum?
There are a lot of PEOPLE here who understand electric. Electrocuting nitrogen is not a problem. So how do we get pure nitrogen? Bar buying it from a welding supply shop.
How does tutanka or MJN get his nitrogen? And more importantly...Flow rate. Even for a little engine.

Please REREAD the thread - everything you asked has already been posted.

[pengrove]

Mike and TUT, let me know when you have a reactor for sale please I have a little genset here to test on. ITs a 5000watt generator with a robin 8.5hp engine. THanks!

[aljhoa]

Active Nitrogen & Electromagnetics

Lateral Science - Strutt`s Allotropic Nitrogen

YouTube - Lec 10 | MIT 6.013 Electromagnetics and Applications, Fall 2

Imageshack - ar003.png - Uploaded by sucahyo

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post83680

Al

[tutanka]

I do not think they need pure Nitrogen, as they stated so. Why do you think it is important?

Regards

pure nitrogen!

[tutanka]

It was previously mentioned that input is ambient air and water.

If you use air you obtain more NOx converted by reactor. You need N2 and H2O for obtain NH3/N2O!

[tutanka]

Mike and TUT, let me know when you have a reactor for sale please I have a little genset here to test on. ITs a 5000watt generator with a robin 8.5hp engine. THanks!

No idea now about commercialization..

[pengrove]

No idea now about commercialization..

I just wanted to be a tester is all. My first attempt is much like yours but my center electrode was a florescent bulb and it could not with stand the pressure. I am a bit lost at the moment as to making a vacuum tube.

My Tesla research has most of my attention at the moment. Digging through 100 year old documents while being grilled is time consuming.

If you guys want a more important mission. Lets try to fix the ionosphere ourselfs before we melt. That and I am too tired to climb mountains to talk to God. thanks

[vrand]

pure nitrogen!

Interesting, so looks like Vickers was right

You mentioned in the past that your Gas Processor (GP) used HV field, and a little magnetic field to stop the creation of ozone.

How do you know you are creating pure nitrogen in your GP?

How do you remove the oxygen and CO2 gases in the air, with filters or membranes?

Thanks, Mike

[tutanka]

Interesting, so looks like Vickers was right

You mentioned in the past that your Gas Processor (GP) used HV field, and a little magnetic field to stop the creation of ozone.

How do you know you are creating pure nitrogen in your GP?

How do you remove the oxygen and CO2 gases in the air, with filters or membranes?

Thanks, Mike

Sorry.. now you have all infos.. think with your mind.. Regards

[vrand]

Sorry.. now you have all infos.. think with your mind.. Regards

Maybe in the future you can do a gas analyzer spectrometer on your gas at the different stages in your process.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks, Mike