We are the Peace. Gift for the humanity. Stanley Meyer Water injector Solved!

[sebosfato]

Thank you Slovenia

I hope people keeps the basic line of respect. And help if they can. Thank you for supporting me! Hope you already understood the tech is for real! I just want to take this tech out because i was really very unpleased because of the resistances i had in the attempt to release my one.

I'm sorry about the people who don't believe but i think we should insist with them a little, maybe they will understand soon too. Anyway they must be more polite. your right!

Once i got ignored by h2o power and others because my ideas were different than his opinions, i'm sorry for him. and i hope we can remain on topic here!

Does any of you know how to post the image in the middle of the post? When typing your message, click this button: Thank you a lot Aaron !


Thank you A lot

[Aaron]

posting pics

Sebosfato,

When typing your message, click this button:


Then, enter the url of the graphic.

[sucahyo]

Will there be more complete information later? At least about the problem besides money like the need of high temperature steam or similar. The use of vacuum instead of pressure, etc.

When you have electric fields in a capacitor where the dielectrics is a liquid and this liquid moves in a certain direction in relation to the electric fields a very high current will be generated!

This is the principle of energy generation.

When a conductor cross a magnetic field a current is induced in this conductor.

Have you ever see this :

[sebosfato]

Thank you once more steve!

Voltage is considered like a pressure in the normal way of thinking, i actually think about it like a vacuum but this is just a detail... Pressure in this circuit i described will be what drive the system and will not be consumed that much, if you think about lets say we need 10 bars and we have 1 liter of free space inside our tank, if you boil 6ml of water you should build up this pressure. How much energy you would need to boil this amount of water? VERY SMAL ENERGY!!!What about using the radiator of the car to do this( just an idea... )

Boiling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Calorie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1 cal = 4,1868 J ( 1 cal is the amount of energy you need to raise 1°C the temperature of 1 gram of water)
we need 6ml thus that were previously at 20°C so we need to raise 80°C. So 80°*6g*4,1868j = 2009J witch = 0,558 watts hour + the heat of vaporization witch is 2261 Joules per gram = 2009+13566= 15575J witch in watts = 4.32 watts hour. Than if you want to boil this in only 30 seconds for starting the engine fast. Lets multiply this by 60 minutes and again * 2 because there are 2 * 30 seconds in 1 minute. So = 518 watts applied for 30 seconds. 13,5v * 38,5 amps for 30 seconds.

Joules to Watt-Hours Conversion Calculator

Now i tell you something, once i did a test in witch i connected 200v from the wall into a 35 amps bridge rectifier than connected to 2 ss plates of 20cm x10cm separated by 5 cm thus using only 600watts or 3 amps 4 liters of tap water boiled in 1 hour. Amps were limited by the heated water and the bubbles i think. What i'm saying is maybe, maybe is a good way to create the pressure inside the tank. What do you think about it? There would be an small amount of h2 and 02 together but maybe would not explode...

Can any of you Help repeating this boiling test to check and confirm my result? (i don't have that equipment here anymore)

WikiAnswers - How much energy is needed to boil water

-----------

Now I came up with the solution for the injector system witch is very much more economic viable and lighter than the theory i had before. So as its already in the public domain because myers patent and others are older than 20 years i decided to release all his info here because i was having problems releasing my own patented technology, the army didn't allowed us if we release it we go to the jail. So here it is the info about meyer tech, how it worked and soon more instructions on how to produce it. Thats all i have and i believe is huge!

If you didn't understood yet the technology please take the time to read it all again. Its very clear. Sorry if maybe my english is not perfect, i learned it alone.
I'm not going against the documents meyer provided, He told us he were using compressing pumps, he even told us the size of the holes that he was using. Even the amount of water per injection. It were very clear that you just need to know the speed water will take ... Please read it all again i'm sure you will understand and i'm sure you will want help us with answers for some technical questions like the pressure one and maybe even more if you want...

I'm not wanting to mass product it myself anymore i just want to finish the project for now and provide the answer for the humanity! I'm tired of investors they just want to make you feel bad and want to be aways richer they don't care about the earth and less yet about who you are and what you believe...


If you know how a generator works you may read again and think well, because the principle is quite the same. (conductor crossing an magnetic field)
For your info since i asked for donations for the 1° time i got only 250 euros witch became test setups and knowledge. I also had to work for live but i already invested about 20 thousand euros in time, rent, equipments and test setups in the last 4 years dedicated only to this. Donations would help a lot because recently i'm not working but i have people around me helping me, so my time is free now and still working and studying 24h on this.

-----------

I suggest for you to read this thread again once more and again than so you have a chance to understand. I clearly explained here how the injectors work. I showed the calculation of the water speed and how much voltage will be generated because of its speed crossing magnetic fields induced by voltage fields. Open your mind. I'm talking about physics not what meyer talked to confuse us.

I also spent countless hours reading and watching all about Stan. He wouldn't explain this EHD thing because is the secret of his patents! You can learn about this only if you are studying to be doctor in physics.

Plasma (physics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell...lectrophoresis
Electrokinetic phenomena - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Streaming current - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Electrospray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Electrohydrodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pressure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The voltage alone wont do any work. Voltage together with movement can do work.

Example:

You have a parallel plate air capacitor charged with 100volts and than disconnected from the power supply.
What happen when you pull the plates apart?
Wouldn't the voltage raise while the charge remains the same?
Why the voltage raised?
because you did work separating the plates!
This is the principle of the Wimshurst generator.

If the power supply were still connected when you separate the plates the voltage would remain the same and the charge would reduce.

----------
"handy"
"Since you haven't even begun to build the prototype you haven't considered factors of erosion on your 0.4 mm nozzle or what might happen if it were clogged. "

--------------

If proper filtering is provided i believe it wont get clogged, of course i'm still working on the design and the durability of the hole is not yet possible to predict even if thinking about it should last for a very long time for how i imagine it about 1/2 cm long. But is very clear to me and others that meyer did this way and that is one of the only ways to do it in a manner witch is economically viable, of easy installation and light weight. However if you are a bit jealous for not being the one who discovered the process, you can be part of this discover by helping to find out the pressure we need to maintain on the tank for it to work... be part of the team so you and human race will only benefit from this kind of behavior (partnership). I don't want to be proud to have get there alone. I don't really care about this, i just want to see water cars and airplanes buses and camions running in the streets.

I'm not here to prove i'm a free thinker i just believe to be a thinker that have many solutions for todays problems.

Do you remember dynodon's video where he show the injector?

Meyer did so
Yes we Can!

Evidences are the hundreds of patents claiming free energy devices, Stan's videos, coincidences that happened with me along my way. Than physics books, and logic... Read it again and you will see the logic!

Pressure (potential energy) can do work.

I'm also studying about diamagnetic materials witch converts magnetic fields because maybe they are needed inside the injector... many things to consider...

Regards





Hi Sucayo

that pictures sounds familiar. do you have ones we can actually see well big?

The money will be needed to make or construct the injectors the tank and eventually pumps and solenoid valves, tubing, circuiting... basically to complete the all thing!
check this new post, there is some links with info about ehd very nice.

Regards
Sebos

[sucahyo]

bigger image can be seen by clicking the thumbnail.

sebosfato, your solution is to run car with water isn't it? I don't see why you need MHD.

MHD require high ionization. While high ionization is also what Meyer system need but isn't loading the MHD output will neutralize the ion and result in many recombined atom?

Why do you think the output is high amperage electricity?

[Cherryman]

One easy way to achieve high pressure is a form of hydraulic pump.

Just imagine the tank being a cilinder of water, and the piston having a "screwtread", minor turning would provide huge pressure.


One thing to remember,when you pressurize the tank, the fuel line schouldalso be high pressure resistant!

Again.. I think " shopping knoledge" at (oil) hydraulics systems could provide answers for that.


PS. Keep up the good work! "They can stop one man, they can't stop us all!"

[sebosfato]

One easy way to achieve high pressure is a form of hydraulic pump.

Just imagine the tank being a cilinder of water, and the piston having a "screwtread", minor turning would provide huge pressure.


One thing to remember,when you pressurize the tank, the fuel line schouldalso be high pressure resistant!

Again.. I think " shopping knoledge" at (oil) hydraulics systems could provide answers for that.


PS. Keep up the good work! "They can stop one man, they can't stop us all!"

Very nice idea!
You explained it very well, i made a very clear picture in my head. And i will think about!
We would only have to use a small electric motor to drive it and its done! very nice!

Thanks a lot!

[sebosfato]

Hi sucahyo

MHD actually don't need high ionization this principle works with liquid metals or any conducting liquid too. Thats why i believe meyer used the ionized gases to raise the conductivity!


If you generate 5 volts and have a resistance of 1 miliohm you would have 5000 amperes right?

Thats the reaction i want to create.

Regards

[sucahyo]

If you generate 5 volts and have a resistance of 1 miliohm you would have 5000 amperes right?

I still don't get it. How do you know that it will have that output voltage?

[Farrah Day]

I daresay that this post will not go down particularly well, but for the sake of balancing the equation, here's my two-penneth of scepticsm.

What happens when a conductor moves cutting a magnetic field?
A voltage is developed! in a direction 90° from the magnetic field lines and 90° from the movement!
What happen when we have water under a very high pressure and make it to pass thru a 0,40 mm diameter hole?
It will pass thru it at a very high speed!
water is not conductive thus ( the ionized gases were needed in the injector to create the conduction )
Lets say you have a 0,40 mm hole 6cm long (it will have a volume = to 7,5 ul ( the amount stan said was injecting for each injection cycle in each cylinder) accordingly to the volume of a cylinder calculation =((diameter/2)^2)*High)
Now you need to inject it in only 2ms what will be the speed of the water?
answer (6cm/0,002)*(7,5-7,4) ((volume of the tube - the amount of water to be injected) (this result is = to how many times the tube will fill per injection) well the result is almost 3000cm/sec
Now if you cut a magnetic flux of 15.000 gauss with water at this speed you will develop 1,7volts witch together with the ionized gas and a catalyzer element and resonance will actually crack the water!!!

Enjoy Freedom!

Now you just need to develop a certain pressure inside the tank, (only about 4 liters of water will be consumed in one hour thus even very high pressure will cost very low energy) and solenoids to do all the work...
What about this?
after 2010 years we can again walk on water...haha
Best Regards to you all
Donations are welcome! you find link on my you tube channel

I hate to be a party pooper here, but I have one or two misgivings I'd like to air.

Firstly, where is the energy to pressurise the water going to come from? I envisage a lot of power being required for this act alone.

I assume you mean 15,000 Gauss - what is providing this magnetic flux?

Now if you cut a magnetic flux of 15.000 gauss with water at this speed you will develop 1,7volts witch together with the ionized gas and a catalyzer element and resonance will actually crack the water!!!

How is water going to develop a voltage... and where is this voltage supposedly being developed? Water is of neutral charge - you yourself say it is not conductive (though I don't agree with this statement either). How did you even come by a figure of 1.7 volts???

and resonance will actually crack the water!!!

What resonance? Where is this resonance coming from and what exactly is supposedly resonating?

I don't want to be overly rude here, but none of this comes close to making any sense whatsoever.

Where have you got the figure of 5V and 1milli ohm from?

If you had a proof of concept model and were touting for donations to produce a full size working model, then fair enough, but as I see it your simply asking for monies to feed your interest or hobby.

Have you actually got anything other than theories - which let's face it are 10 a penny on these forums - or is this really as it seems, all just wild conjecture?

There will always be a few, but I hope the majority of people around here are not foolish enough to blindly donate to your cause without due consideration.

[sebosfato]

Hi sucahyo,

There is a calculation for knowing the voltage an electrical generator will have witch depends on the speed the conductor cross the magnetic field, the intensity of the magnetic field and the length.

5 volts where only a demonstrative value (not real) ...


Hi farrah day

The magnetic field (15.000 gauss is not actually needed) were only a demonstrative value.

Water have contaminants, they are responsible for water to not be a perfect insulation. I believe that if we add the ionized gases in the same duct (kind of cold plasma) we are going to have a very very high conductivity or very low resistance.

Best Regards

[Farrah Day]

Oh thanks... that explains it all then!

[rickoff]

The magnetic field (15.000 gauss is not actually needed) were only a demonstrative value.

Hi Sebosfato,

In looking through some of your posts in this thread I have noticed that your numbers would be rather confusing to many readers. As in the above quote, "15.000 gauss" is equivalent to 15 gauss here in the USA, but I would suspect that you actually meant 15,000 [fifteen thousand] gauss. Could it be that someone interchanged the comma and period keys on your keyboard? I wonder this because it seems that each time you insert a number that should most likely have a comma in it, there is a dot [decimal place] instead.

Edit: I realize, as pointed out by Cloxxki, that the European nations use numerical formatting that is exactly the opposite of what we use here in the USA. See post #30 for my suggestion on how we might avoid any future confusion regarding numeric formatting.

Thanks for your efforts, and best of luck to you in this project.

Best regards,

Rick

[Cloxxki]

Hi Rick,

I think more people in the world grow up today using a dot for thousands than comma's ;-)
How many people have an English speaking mothertongue anyway, 500.000.000 out of 7.000.000.000? ;-)

[rickoff]

Hi Cloxxki,

You are right, of course, and apologies to sebosfato. It would appear that neither way of denoting thousands and decimal places is right or wrong - it's just different. I guess that for people in the European Union nations that the dot is used to denote thousands, while the comma is used to denote a decimal place for fractional amounts. That does make things confusing, though, for those of us who live in North or South America (along with China and Japan), since we have always done just the opposite. And although this forum was founded by English speaking people from the USA, we do have members from all over the world. To avoid possible confusion in future posts, perhaps we should either specify in our posts the format we are using for numbers, or use something that we can find universally agreeable. I would like to suggest perhaps adopting the format of a space for a thousands separator, and a dot for the fractional decimal separator. For example: 38 756.324 would equal 38 thousand, seven hundred fifty six, and 324 thousandths. This gets the comma out of the numbers, which is what leads to confusion. And written this way is also understood by ISO 31 numeric standard, as adopted by countries on the Eurpoean continent. Any one else have a suggestion?

Rick