OK... Lets Burn Some Water

[Farrah Day]

Hi Vickers

I figure that the O2 off the anode will dissolve in the cooling water and I am sure that water with a high oxygen content is more conductive..or maybe I'm wrong about that. If anyone knows please tell me.

O2 will surely dissolve in water, but as it is a neutral molecule as opposed to a charged ion, it will have very little effect on the conduction properties of the water. If anything any great amount of dissolved gases - being neutral - would likely increase the resistance of the water simply by being additional obstacles to ion current flow.

Anyway It makes sense to me that the water will eventually reach its hydrogen gas saturation limit and at which point any further evolved HHO will simply reform back to H2O

It would be interesting to know what the saturation limit would be, but once this is achieved then you will certainly have a dangerous pressure build up, as to reform as water, the hydrogen and oxygen needs to release energy.

This is the exothermic reaction normally initiated by a spark, with the energy being released as heat, but there is the possibility that the gas mixture might actually self-ignite under pressure. It certainly won't turn back into water without somehow releasing energy.

I feel that as your experiment gets more adventurous... so the risks increase. Be careful, do not become over-confident or too complacent.

Farrah

[Matthew Jones]

I feel that as your experiment gets more adventurous... so the risks increase. Be careful, do not become over-confident or too complacent.

No Vickers you do whatever you want. If it hurts you make sure to warn us. or if you stop the thread all of a sudden well we'll read between the lines.

Good luck, and god speed.

Matt

[Farrah Day]

No Vickers you do whatever you want. If it hurts you make sure to warn us. or if you stop the thread all of a sudden well we'll read between the lines.

Good luck, and god speed.

Matt

lol... not sure I'd want you as a best friend Matt!

[spiralout]

@Vickers,

Thx for sharing, very interesting info and a cool way to present it,
I read your little story five times just for the laughs

@M Jones,

Good call mate. no guts no glory...

Cheers.

[redrichie]

So....does anyone have any video of the hydrogen enriched water burning?

[redrichie]

Tanks for the link. How do you get oxygen out of the water?

[redrichie]

So has anyone tried putting some water ina balloon, blowing it up, and using jumper cables charged it? and the set it on fire!? last video was from 2006, the MIB come and get them?

[redrichie]

Very true. Any leads on the technology they where using? Small canister, looked like a "water filter" that charged the water (he said) "negatively". I wonder if its the same negative that our Bedinis produce?

[Farrah Day]

Hi Vickers

Why do you say that the O2 is a problem?

How do you know it is the O2 at the top?

Hydrogen is the lighter gas so you would expect that rise through the O2, and of course O2 readily dissolves in water maybe moreso than H2.

Using an electrolyser obviously gives you a very different set of circumstances to that of dropping aluminium in water and sodium hydroxide.

So, are you saying that this electrolyser technique does not work because of the oxygen evolved?

Farrah

[Cherryman]

Hi Vickers

...

How do you know it is the O2 at the top?

Hydrogen is the lighter gas so you would expect that rise through the O2, and of course O2 readily dissolves in water maybe moreso than H2.
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Farrah

I ignited a lot of this mixture in a tube, and i noticed that the explosion (fire flash) occures at the bottom.

Even with plenty of room on top, an iginition in the middle, the flash was still in the lower part of the tube.

This does not state anything about the whereabouths of the O2 or H2.

But worth mentioning.


Besides that, i have had a few occasions that instead of a "bang" i got a kind of flame instead. I was wondering if I lacked H2 or O2 at those times, after reading this.. It might be overpressure..